vodka question

Going from memory, Belvedere is made from rye, therefore
is an atypical form of vodka that, probably, is not to
most vodka drinker's taste. I do not think it is correct
to say it is a premium version of Grey Goose.

Steve

Far as I can tell said:

it's kept behind a locked door, so it must be good.

You have now passed "Marketing 101" with an A+ as taught by Mr. Experience.

You went to buy your favorite Vodka, but what you bought was a cool bottle, the use
of a special door, and the advice of two ignorant vodka sellers.

Fore-armed with your new knowledge, you will now save money by the basketful on many
new products.

New wine with pre-aged labels. "Wow! This bottle looks old! Isn't old wine the
best?"

Water in highly polished plastic. "Wow! This water must be great, it seems to be
shiny!"

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Is anyone familiar with a vodka brand called Beleveder, which is
supposedly the premium version of Grey Goose? I wanted a really good
orange flavored vodka -

I have to ask the obvious -
isn't adding orange flavoring to a premium vodka like adding cola to 30
yr rum?
If you want a premium vodka because you can taste the difference in the
flavor of the vodka and appreciate it, why then buy the one with orange
extract in the bottle?
It would seem a better approach to buy a good to better vodka and add a
twist, and save the premuim for neat.

just a thought.....

and was going to buy Absolute or Grey Goose

Quoted message said:

when I went into the store... but something called Belvedere was in
the bottle design that used to belong to Grey Goose, so I inquired.
The manager and a customer assured me it was good <no sample bottle to
purchase>, so I bought a the smallest bottle, which is big ...hey -
it's kept behind a locked door, so it must be good. LOL

I've tried it twice with about a week's worth of lag time between, but
I can't get past that powdery flavor. I feel like I'm sipping
flavored baby powder!

Is it me, or does it treally have a powdery undertone?

sf
Wondering if Liquor Barn takes back opened bottles of booze w/o a
receipt <yes, it IS that nasty> and not sure what to do with the rest
of it - if I can't return the bottle.

🙂

Steve Pope said:

is an atypical form of vodka that, probably, is not to
most vodka drinker's taste.

Vodka!? ...taste!? ...that's funny. Let's see, put Grey Goose, a
premium vodka refined to the point of zero taste plus one, in the
freezer till it will deaden ones tastebuds to zero, and then elucidate
on the flavor profile of vodka. Yeah, right. As a world renown booze
critic put it (I'm paraphrasing), "It's hard to judge a spirit that,
the higher the quality, has less and less flavor."

nb

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sf
Wondering if Liquor Barn takes back opened bottles of booze w/o a
receipt <yes, it IS that nasty> and not sure what to do with the rest
of it - if I can't return the bottle.

🙂

Make jello shots for the office, you'll become instantly popular!

Elisa

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Quoted message said:

Is anyone familiar with a vodka brand called Beleveder, which is
supposedly the premium version of Grey Goose? I wanted a really good
orange flavored vodka -

I have to ask the obvious -
isn't adding orange flavoring to a premium vodka like adding cola to 30
yr rum?

Exactly. I get a kick out of people who go out and spend the extra money for
the premium liquors and then mix it with soft drinks because they really don't
like the taste of liquor.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have to ask the obvious -
isn't adding orange flavoring to a premium vodka like adding cola to
30
yr rum?

Exactly. I get a kick out of people who go out and spend the extra money
for
the premium liquors and then mix it with soft drinks because they really
don't
like the taste of liquor.

I keep two types in the house. Store brand for $10 for 1.75L and a top
brand (varies each time). Mixed, no one has ever detected the difference.
Damned if I'm going to put $30 vodka in tomato juice.

In Edwin Pawlowski said:

"Dave Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I have to ask the obvious -
isn't adding orange flavoring to a premium vodka like adding cola
to
30
yr rum?

Exactly. I get a kick out of people who go out and spend the extra
money for the premium liquors and then mix it with soft drinks
because they really don't like the taste of liquor.

I keep two types in the house. Store brand for $10 for 1.75L and a
top brand (varies each time). Mixed, no one has ever detected the
difference. Damned if I'm going to put $30 vodka in tomato juice.

You can purchase $10.00 bottles of vodka in your neighbourhood?

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Dennis

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You can purchase $10.00 bottles of vodka in your neighbourhood?

Yes, $9.99 for the house brand.

Elisa said:

Make jello shots for the office, you'll become instantly popular!

NO, I'd be fired. No smoking or booze is allowed on the premises.

sf
still wondering about that powdery flavor

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I have to ask the obvious -
isn't adding orange flavoring to a premium vodka like adding cola to 30
yr rum?
If you want a premium vodka because you can taste the difference in the
flavor of the vodka and appreciate it, why then buy the one with orange
extract in the bottle?
It would seem a better approach to buy a good to better vodka and add a
twist, and save the premuim for neat.

just a thought.....

I bought an orange flavored vodka because I like it.

As I said before, I went in thinking of trying Grey Goose - but the
bottle wasn't the same, so I bought the one in the familiar bottle.
As usual, the employee (a store manager, so I put more trust in what
he said) didn't know is head from a hole in the ground and I am
regretting my purchase.

If you can't tell the difference between good vodka and
cheap vodka in a mixed drink, you are mixing your drinks
too weak.

Steve

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Steve Pope said:

is an atypical form of vodka that, probably, is not to
most vodka drinker's taste.

Vodka!? ...taste!? ...that's funny. Let's see, put Grey Goose, a
premium vodka refined to the point of zero taste plus one, in the
freezer till it will deaden ones tastebuds to zero, and then elucidate
on the flavor profile of vodka. Yeah, right. As a world renown booze
critic put it (I'm paraphrasing), "It's hard to judge a spirit that,
the higher the quality, has less and less flavor."

nb

Y'know I used to think that about vodka - it was a tasteless way for people
who do not like liquor to get some ethanol into their systems. I thought it
was funny that people would pay premium prices for a no-taste item. But then
I had a Gray Goose vodka martini and darned if it did not taste really good!
I wonder if there are some subtle taste elements that play a role.

--
Peter Aitken
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Steve Pope said:

is an atypical form of vodka that, probably, is not to
most vodka drinker's taste.

Vodka!? ...taste!? ...that's funny.

some can taste a difference, others can't. Doesn't mean it isn't there.

- except to the vodka-taste-challenged :-)

Let's see, put Grey Goose, a

Quoted message said:

premium vodka refined to the point of zero taste plus one, in the
freezer till it will deaden ones tastebuds to zero, and then elucidate
on the flavor profile of vodka. Yeah, right. As a world renown booze
critic put it (I'm paraphrasing), "It's hard to judge a spirit that,
the higher the quality, has less and less flavor."

nb

Dave Smith said:

Exactly. I get a kick out of people who go out and spend the extra money

for

Quoted message said:

the premium liquors and then mix it with soft drinks because they really

don't

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like the taste of liquor.

At home (alone!) I drink Gordon's wodka because I mix it with Diet Dr.
Pepper or Schweppes Bitter Lemon or whatever...no need to buy premium stuff
when mixing it with soft drinks...most any swill will work, even ADM...

When I'm at me corner groggery I drink wodka on the rocks, either Effen
cherry - flavored (it's IIRC a French wodka with just a *touch* of cherry
flavor, not over - sweet or over - weening at all) or Ketel One...

If I have guests I'll always have plain Ketel One, Stoly, or some other
premium brand...plus regular 'ole Smirnoff. Plus which most of my guests
are wodka hounds so they'll usually bring something new/interesting...last
brunch someone brought Aalborg aquavit, it made an interesting and tasty
Bloody Mary.

A good friend likes Stoli Raspberry, I find it sickenly sweet, akin to
drinking cough syrup. Each to his own, I guess...

I've tried adding a bit of Torani fruit syrup to wodka to see if I could
make a "flavored" wodka that way, it works okay...

These new flavored wodkas mainly I think appeal to the younger female crowd
who adore those "girly" drinks like flavored martoonis and such. I cringe
as I watch these girls order up these ultra - sweet concoctions, but hey
bars do a big bizness in these drinks at ten or so bux a pop...I see the
trend is starting with gins too.

[BTW Smirnoff was top - rated in a recent _New York Times_ blind taste
test...]

If you want an interesting - tasting type of wodka try some of the Eastern
European stuff, e.g. Polish Wyborova in some of it's various
permutations...IIRC it's made from rye...

My corner bar gets a new type of wodka in at least every week, I think they
have prolly close to 60 or so different types at least on permanent offer
(and this is just a Chicawgo corner tavern, no plush place). As I'm the
official new wodka "taste tester" I find some of these are okay, some are
vile. I really wonder when - and *if* - the market for gussied - up wodkas
will be saturated. I guess when enough enough folx get "saturated" ;-p

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Greg

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Steve Pope said:

is an atypical form of vodka that, probably, is not to
most vodka drinker's taste.

Vodka!? ...taste!? ...that's funny.

some can taste a difference, others can't. Doesn't mean it isn't there.

- except to the vodka-taste-challenged :-)

Vodka got it's big push back in the 50's in the US with Smirnoff's "Smirnoff
leaves you breathless" ad campaign, before that gin was the white water of
choice, wodka before then was used most famously in a concoction called "The
Moscow Mule", otherwise it was not all that popular.

Those Smirnoff ads (which used celebrities, these chic and witty ads are
classics of their kind and were all over the place, e.g. _Life_, _Time_,
_Esquire_, _Holiday_, etc.) pushed vodka as a "neutral" and "tasteless"
mixer, also pushed the fact that you could not detect vodka on the breath
(remember, this was a time when Scotch reigned supreme and three - drink
lunches were the norm)...

[I've got one of these Smirnoff ads framed right above my computer, it's
from 1961 and features glam supermodel Suzy Parker (one of my
"obsessions"😉...the tagline reads "It's a whole new fashion in liquor...".
Look on Ebay or in old mags for these ads, they are great...]

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Greg

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Vodka!? ...taste!? ...that's funny. Let's see, put Grey Goose, a
premium vodka refined to the point of zero taste plus one, in the
freezer till it will deaden ones tastebuds to zero, and then elucidate
on the flavor profile of vodka. Yeah, right. As a world renown booze
critic put it (I'm paraphrasing), "It's hard to judge a spirit that,
the higher the quality, has less and less flavor."

nb

Dear notbob, I am in your corner here. I do admit that there is a difference
in well filtered vodka and poorly filtered vodka though. My choice is Stoli
if I have the funds; elsewise Smirnoff is fine.

Charliam, who's spirit of choice is gin but admits that he would choose a
fine vintage Port or tasty ale over any spirituous liquid.

Gregory Morrow said:

If you want an interesting - tasting type of wodka try some of the Eastern
European stuff, e.g. Polish Wyborova in some of it's various
permutations...IIRC it's made from rye...

I like the Polish vodkas best, and always have Wyborova in the
freezer. Anyone here familiar with the greenish "buffalo herb" Polish
vodka Zubrowka? I love it.

Nathalie in Switzerland

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Good question! I'd like to know too.

Nathalie Chiva said:

How do you make jello shots?

Nathalie in Switzerland

On a quick google search you can find this:
http://www.drinkstreet.com/searchresults.cgi?drinkid=916&drinkname=jello%20shots
or this:
http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink4534.html
another one:
http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,jello_shots,FF.html
Martha's version:
http://www.mrsmegabyte.com/jello2.html

Egads - Is it awful awful, or awful nice?!?

Nathalie in Switzerland