Re: Updated Mountain Biking FAQ

On Sun, 08 May 2005 19:26:05 +1200, Westie
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<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

A FAQ about a sport by a person that doesn't even participate in it....
He HAS got a sense of humour.

How can you say that? Look at all the lies and abuse Vandeman hands
out - he is a "typical mountain biker"!

Guy
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85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

Just zis Guy said:

On Sun, 08 May 2005 19:26:05 +1200, Westie
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

A FAQ about a sport by a person that doesn't even participate in it....
He HAS got a sense of humour.

How can you say that? Look at all the lies and abuse Vandeman hands
out - he is a "typical mountain biker"!

Guy

Ah. Good point.
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Westie

On Sun, 08 May 2005 19:26:05 +1200, Westie <[email hidden]> wrote:

..Mike Vandeman wrote:
..> Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
..> Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
..> March 5, 2004
..>
..<snip>
..
..A FAQ about a sport by a person that doesn't even participate in it....
..He HAS got a sense of humour.

I know. But it's TRUE, which is the funniest thing of all.
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On Mon, 09 May 2005 14:48:33 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>

wrote in message : said:

.A FAQ about a sport by a person that doesn't even participate in it....
.He HAS got a sense of humour.

Quoted message said:

I know. But it's TRUE, which is the funniest thing of all.

For certain carefully selected values of true, and ignoring equivalent
and often greater truths about other activities.

Mike tells the truth about mountain biking in the same way Don Black
tells the truth about black people. Old-fashioned bigotry from an
old-fashioned troll.

Guy
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Mike Vandeman said:

On Sun, 08 May 2005 19:26:05 +1200, Westie <[email hidden]> wrote:

.Mike Vandeman wrote:
.> Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
.> Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
.> March 5, 2004
.>
.<snip>
.
.A FAQ about a sport by a person that doesn't even participate in it....
.He HAS got a sense of humour.

I know. But it's TRUE, which is the funniest thing of all.
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It isn't even a very good FAQ by any standards. I'd hardly call it the
definitive truth. You omitted data straight away. You forgot that one
reason why people mountainbike is for exercise. No mention of that.
Still, that'd be consistant with all your other work... omitting
sensible and relevant data that doesn't agree or reinforce your
"logical" conclusions...LOL!
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Westie

On Tue, 10 May 2005 18:13:47 +1200, Westie <[email hidden]> wrote:

..Mike Vandeman wrote:
..> On Sun, 08 May 2005 19:26:05 +1200, Westie <[email hidden]> wrote:
..>
..> .Mike Vandeman wrote:
..> .> Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
..> .> Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
..> .> March 5, 2004
..> .>
..> .<snip>
..> .
..> .A FAQ about a sport by a person that doesn't even participate in it....
..> .He HAS got a sense of humour.
..>
..> I know. But it's TRUE, which is the funniest thing of all.
..> ===
..> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
..> humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
..> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
..>
..> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
..
..It isn't even a very good FAQ by any standards. I'd hardly call it the
..definitive truth. You omitted data straight away. You forgot that one
..reason why people mountainbike is for exercise. No mention of that.

You completely missed the point. That is not a reason to MOUNTAIN BIKE, because
you can get exercise by walking. It doesn't require a bike.

..Still, that'd be consistant with all your other work... omitting
..sensible and relevant data that doesn't agree or reinforce your
.."logical" conclusions...LOL!

It's not relevant.
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jarren west field said:

There is a differens between walking and mountain biking. You train
different muscles.

Can you please explain why some choise to go mountain biking wasn't
for exercise because you can also walk? Otherwise those stupid mount
bikers doesn't understand it.

Ok mountain biking is strenious (I never done it, but it think it is)
so i could be a reason. But walking is much better as mountain biking
and it is less damaging for the enviroment and les dangeruos so their
should be no reason for mountain biking. 'ridewestieride' wrote about
why some choose to go mountain binking. But some people can make wrong
choises isn't it?

Mikey's most intelligent supporter to date!

(Can see 'em now: dinner and a movie.)

Bill Sornson said:

jarren west field said:

There is a differens between walking and mountain biking. You train
different muscles.

Can you please explain why some choise to go mountain biking wasn't
for exercise because you can also walk? Otherwise those stupid mount
bikers doesn't understand it.

Ok mountain biking is strenious (I never done it, but it think it is)
so i could be a reason. But walking is much better as mountain biking
and it is less damaging for the enviroment and les dangeruos so their
should be no reason for mountain biking. 'ridewestieride' wrote about
why some choose to go mountain binking. But some people can make wrong
choises isn't it?

Mikey's most intelligent supporter to date!

With supporters like that, who needs critics?

Quoted message said:

(Can see 'em now: dinner and a movie.)

Mike Vandeman said:

On Tue, 10 May 2005 18:13:47 +1200, Westie <[email hidden]> wrote:

.Mike Vandeman wrote:
.> On Sun, 08 May 2005 19:26:05 +1200, Westie <[email hidden]> wrote:
.>
.> .Mike Vandeman wrote:
.> .> Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
.> .> Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
.> .> March 5, 2004
.> .>
.> .<snip>
.> .
.> .A FAQ about a sport by a person that doesn't even participate in it....
.> .He HAS got a sense of humour.
.>
.> I know. But it's TRUE, which is the funniest thing of all.
.> ===
.> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
.> humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
.> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
.>
.> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
.
.It isn't even a very good FAQ by any standards. I'd hardly call it the
.definitive truth. You omitted data straight away. You forgot that one
.reason why people mountainbike is for exercise. No mention of that.

You completely missed the point. That is not a reason to MOUNTAIN BIKE, because
you can get exercise by walking. It doesn't require a bike.

There is a differens between walking and mountain biking. You train
different muscles.

Can you please explain why some choise to go mountain biking wasn't for
exercise because you can also walk? Otherwise those stupid mount bikers
doesn't understand it.

Ok mountain biking is strenious (I never done it, but it think it is)
so i could be a reason. But walking is much better as mountain biking
and it is less damaging for the enviroment and les dangeruos so their
should be no reason for mountain biking. 'ridewestieride' wrote about
why some choose to go mountain binking. But some people can make wrong
choises isn't it?

Mike Vandeman said:

.> .It isn't even a very good FAQ by any standards. I'd hardly call it the
.> .definitive truth. You omitted data straight away. You forgot that one
.> .reason why people mountainbike is for exercise. No mention of that.
.>
.> You completely missed the point. That is not a reason to MOUNTAIN BIKE, because
.> you can get exercise by walking. It doesn't require a bike.
.
.No, I didn't miss the point. You did. One doesn't have to walk to get
.exercise either. However, one can CHOOSE to walk for exercise, just as
.one can choose to bike for exercise. DUH!

Because you can WALK, there's no reason to mountain bike, in order to get
exercise. You have to come up with another reason to mountain bike (hint: there
aren't any good reasons).

But by your logic there isn't any good reason to walk either. YOU'RE
going to have to come up with another reason.

How about you stay at home ( and avoid using ecologically unsound
transport to reach your favourite walking place) and lift weights or use
a treadmill in your livingroom to exercise. Looking at it that way,
there is no good reason to go walking in nature either. After-all if
you don't need to bike in nature in order to exercise, then you
definitely don't need to walk in nature in order to exercise. Walk at
home and save nature.

Heck, maybe you could even put a nice National Geographic rainforest
video on the TV and experience nature while on the treadmill?

Everything that you stand for hinges on trying to reduce the impact of
humans on nature. I guess that's why I'm so entertained by your
fanatical defence of walkers rights, which by your own logic, you should
be against just as much as you are against MTBing.

I love crazy people. They make me feel so... sane.
--
Westie

On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:14:33 +1200, Westie <[email hidden]> wrote:

..Mike Vandeman wrote:
..
..> .> .It isn't even a very good FAQ by any standards. I'd hardly call it the
..> .> .definitive truth. You omitted data straight away. You forgot that one
..> .> .reason why people mountainbike is for exercise. No mention of that.
..> .>
..> .> You completely missed the point. That is not a reason to MOUNTAIN BIKE, because
..> .> you can get exercise by walking. It doesn't require a bike.
..> .
..> .No, I didn't miss the point. You did. One doesn't have to walk to get
..> .exercise either. However, one can CHOOSE to walk for exercise, just as
..> .one can choose to bike for exercise. DUH!
..>
..> Because you can WALK, there's no reason to mountain bike, in order to get
..> exercise. You have to come up with another reason to mountain bike (hint: there
..> aren't any good reasons).
..>
..
..But by your logic there isn't any good reason to walk either. YOU'RE
..going to have to come up with another reason.

I don't need a reason, since I'm not promoting it. YOU need reasons to mountain
bike, because you are promoting and advocating it.

You are just trying to hide the fact that you can't think of any good reason to
mountain bike (hint: there ISN'T any).

..How about you stay at home ( and avoid using ecologically unsound
..transport to reach your favourite walking place) and lift weights or use
..a treadmill in your livingroom to exercise. Looking at it that way,
..there is no good reason to go walking in nature either. After-all if
..you don't need to bike in nature in order to exercise, then you
..definitely don't need to walk in nature in order to exercise. Walk at
..home and save nature.
..
..Heck, maybe you could even put a nice National Geographic rainforest
..video on the TV and experience nature while on the treadmill?
..
..Everything that you stand for hinges on trying to reduce the impact of
..humans on nature. I guess that's why I'm so entertained by your
..fanatical defence of walkers rights, which by your own logic, you should
..be against just as much as you are against MTBing.
..
..I love crazy people. They make me feel so... sane.

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande