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  1. I just ordered a new pair of tires and when they arrived I realized
    that they're 700x20 instead of 700x23. Instead of returning them, I
    thought I'd give the narrower tires a try. I was a little concerned
    about rim width, but a trip over to sheldonbrown.com resolved that
    concern for me; my rims should work just fine.

    I know I'll have to adjust my cyclo-computer to the new size. I also
    expect they'll give me a harsher ride, but my ride's comfy enough. Is
    there anything else I should know? Any difference in cornering? Will
    I notice any difference with a slightly smaller outer circumference?

    Just curious.

    -JR

  2. SlowRider said:

    Will
    I notice any difference with a slightly smaller outer circumference?

    Just curious.

    -JR


    you'll have to change your name to FastRider

  3. SlowRider said:

    I just ordered a new pair of tires and when they arrived I realized
    that they're 700x20 instead of 700x23. Instead of returning them, I
    thought I'd give the narrower tires a try. I was a little concerned
    about rim width, but a trip over to sheldonbrown.com resolved that
    concern for me; my rims should work just fine.

    I know I'll have to adjust my cyclo-computer to the new size. I also
    expect they'll give me a harsher ride, but my ride's comfy enough.


    Is

    Quoted message said:

    there anything else I should know? Any difference in cornering?


    Will

    Quoted message said:

    I notice any difference with a slightly smaller outer circumference?

    Just curious.

    -JR

    The 20s may need a slightly higher pressure. You don't mention what
    pressure you run in your 23s. They will also be more prone to
    pinchflats so potholes will become even more hazardous.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  4. SlowRider said:

    I just ordered a new pair of tires and when they arrived I realized
    that they're 700x20 instead of 700x23. Instead of returning them, I
    thought I'd give the narrower tires a try. I was a little concerned
    about rim width, but a trip over to sheldonbrown.com resolved that
    concern for me; my rims should work just fine.

    I know I'll have to adjust my cyclo-computer to the new size. I also
    expect they'll give me a harsher ride, but my ride's comfy enough. Is
    there anything else I should know? Any difference in cornering? Will
    I notice any difference with a slightly smaller outer circumference?

    For a given weight of bike & rider, you'll have to run higher pressure. That
    will cause a harsher ride and poorer traction due to the smaller contact
    patch. Unless you're a lightweight, I would suggest you send 'em back and
    get at least 23s (if not 25s). Almost everyone I know who switched to wider
    tires preferred them.

    Art Harris

  5. Arthur Harris said:

    Almost everyone I know who switched to wider
    tires preferred them.

    Art Harris

    Do many folks who are not racing actually run 20's? Even on high end
    bikes they seem pretty rare to me.

  6. gds said:
    Art Harris said:

    Almost everyone I know who switched to wider
    tires preferred them.

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    Do many folks who are not racing actually run 20's? Even on high end
    bikes they seem pretty rare to me.

    I don't think many racers use them. As I recall, back in the early '70s the
    narrowest clinchers were 27" x 1-1/4" (about 32mm). As manufacturers came
    out with lighter and narrower clincher tires, there was a real improvement
    in performance. So the thinking was that if 25mm tires were good, 23mm must
    be better, and 20mm best of all. But as with most things, there's a point of
    diminishing returns.

    Art Harris

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    gds said:
    Art Harris said:

    Almost everyone I know who switched to wider
    tires preferred them.

    Quoted message said:

    Do many folks who are not racing actually run 20's? Even on high end
    bikes they seem pretty rare to me.

    I don't think many racers use them. As I recall, back in the early '70s
    the narrowest clinchers were 27" x 1-1/4" (about 32mm). As manufacturers
    came out with lighter and narrower clincher tires, there was a real
    improvement in performance. So the thinking was that if 25mm tires were
    good, 23mm must be better, and 20mm best of all. But as with most things,
    there's a point of diminishing returns.


    I agree, at one point it really got weird when several mfrs came out with 17
    and 18mm wide tires. Some people thought you could be "faster" by putting an
    18mm in front, 20mm in back. Talk about bouncing around.....

  8. bfd said:

    "Arthur Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    gds said:

    Art Harris wrote:
    > Almost everyone I know who switched to wider
    > tires preferred them.

    Quoted message said:

    Do many folks who are not racing actually run 20's? Even on high


    end

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    bikes they seem pretty rare to me.

    I don't think many racers use them. As I recall, back in the early


    '70s

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    the narrowest clinchers were 27" x 1-1/4" (about 32mm). As


    manufacturers

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    came out with lighter and narrower clincher tires, there was a real

    Quoted message said:
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    improvement in performance. So the thinking was that if 25mm tires


    were

    Quoted message said:
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    good, 23mm must be better, and 20mm best of all. But as with most


    things,

    Quoted message said:
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    there's a point of diminishing returns.


    I agree, at one point it really got weird when several mfrs came out


    with 17

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    and 18mm wide tires. Some people thought you could be "faster" by


    putting an

    Quoted message said:

    18mm in front, 20mm in back. Talk about bouncing around.....

    Since I haven't used tubulars for a long time could someone remind me
    of their approx. width? My vague recollection is that they were quite a
    bit narrower than the 23mm clinchers to which I switched.

  9. gds said:

    Since I haven't used tubulars for a long time could someone remind me
    of their approx. width? My vague recollection is that they were quite a
    bit narrower than the 23mm clinchers to which I switched.

    As I recall, the Clement Criteriums were around 23mm. The Paris-Roubaix and
    del Mondo were even wider.

    Art Harris

  10. Arthur Harris said:

    As I recall, the Clement Criteriums were around 23mm. The


    Paris-Roubaix and

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    del Mondo were even wider.

    Art Harris

    interesting how time clouds the memory

  11. gds said:

    Since I haven't used tubulars for a long time could someone remind me
    of their approx. width? My vague recollection is that they were quite a
    bit narrower than the 23mm clinchers to which I switched.

    Most seem to be in the 20-23mm range, but Campionato del Mondos are about
    26mm.

    --

    John ([email hidden])

  12. Arthur Harris said:

    For a given weight of bike & rider, you'll have to run higher pressure.

    Therefore, because they hold much less air, you'll have to pump up your
    tyres much more often, too.

    --
    bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo

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