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  1. Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main italian
    cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial products in
    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.
    Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about food,
    but why all this snobbery?
    LOL, I hoper it's just a moment 🙂
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

  2. Vilco said:

    Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main italian
    cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial products in
    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.
    Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about food,
    but why all this snobbery?
    LOL, I hoper it's just a moment 🙂
    --

    Somebody has to hold the fort against the barbarians...

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  3. Vilco said:

    Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main italian
    cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial products in
    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.
    Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about food,
    but why all this snobbery?

    I have noticed that in many ethnic food groups the
    posters are pretty intolerant of one another's opinions.
    God forbid your recipe isn't EXACTLYlike their grandmother
    used to make!

    gloria p

  4. What is the "main Italian cooking NG" BTW? Also what is the difference
    between being concerned about quality and snobbery. In my opinion,
    food snobs are trying to be trendy, ostentatious, and are highly
    suceptible to suggestion by food and wine journalist. In my
    experience, Italians show a higher concern and appreciation of food
    than a large percentage of Americans and I can relate to that. I
    think it's really a matter of priorities and we all have our own. Oh
    boy! Talking about food opens so many interesting questions about
    human behavior...

    Good Eats...

    D.M.

  5. Monsur Fromage du Pollet said:

    Curly Sue wrote on 03 May 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:
    Vilco said:

    Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main
    italian cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial
    products in the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't
    even talk about frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed
    by some food-snob. Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about
    food, but why all this snobbery?
    LOL, I hoper it's just a moment 🙂
    --

    Somebody has to hold the fort against the barbarians...

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

    We got a Fort??? Where?

    Soiteny! Haven't you heard of a Food Fort?

    Ooops, I think we were keeping it from you...

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  6. D.A.Martinich said:

    In my opinion, food snobs are trying to be trendy, ostentatious,
    and are highly suceptible to suggestion by food and wine journalist.

    I wouldn't limit "food snob" to this.

    I think a food snob is anyone who looks down on someone for eating
    something they deem unpalatable. The key, for me, is that they deride the
    other person, or hold them in contempt.

    We have a lot of food snobs on this newsgroup.

    --
    Siobhan Perricone
    "I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
    I ain't afraid of your Allah
    I ain't afraid of your Jesus
    I'm afraid of what ya do in the name of your god"
    - Holly Near

  7. "notbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Vilco said:

    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.

    Give us the newsgroup names and we'll come over and really rattle
    their risotto. 😉

    My thoughts exactly! We could all go over there and stomp on their pompous
    arses! TAKE OVAAHHH DAA GRROOOUP!

    .... Oh hells, just realised how much I just sounded like a troll,
    heheheheh...

    Shaun aRe
    --
    Life is the dream you wake up to.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    -L. said:
    Siobhan Perricone said:
    D.A.Martinich said:

    In my opinion, food snobs are trying to be trendy, ostentatious,
    and are highly suceptible to suggestion by food and wine
    journalist.

    I wouldn't limit "food snob" to this.

    I think a food snob is anyone who looks down on someone for eating
    something they deem unpalatable. The key, for me, is that they
    deride the other person, or hold them in contempt.

    I think it's more those who stick their nose up in the air when someone
    says they make or prepare something differently than the snob does.
    It's the "holier-than-thou" attitude. It's an ego thing. As if there
    is one *right* way to cook something.

    In general, I think I'd agree. Except that proper pirohy really ARE
    triangular in shape. HTH.
    -The Pirohy Princess
    --
    -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sam I Am! 5/3/05

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, Siobhan
    Perricone <[email hidden]> wrote:
    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    I think a food snob is anyone who looks down on someone for eating
    something they deem unpalatable. The key, for me, is that they deride the
    other person, or hold them in contempt.

    Hey, I represent that remark!! You, you, you BEET LOVER, you!!
    (What about we who don't really give a rip but sure have fun making
    sport?)

    Quoted message said:


    We have a lot of food snobs on this newsgroup.
    --
    Siobhan Perricone


    --
    -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Sam I Am! 5/3/05

  10. Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Siobhan
    Perricone <[email hidden]> wrote:
    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    I think a food snob is anyone who looks down on someone for eating
    something they deem unpalatable. The key, for me, is that they deride the
    other person, or hold them in contempt.

    Hey, I represent that remark!! You, you, you BEET LOVER, you!!
    (What about we who don't really give a rip but sure have fun making
    sport?)

    Part-time trolls? Rabble rousers? Provocateurs?

    gloria p

  11. Vilco <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main italian
    cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial products in
    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.
    Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about food,
    but why all this snobbery?
    LOL, I hoper it's just a moment 🙂
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

    I think it IS true that Italians care very much about good food, or Italian
    cuisine would not be as delicious as it is. I DON'T think that necessarily
    makes them snobs. Or at least I hope not. Fact is, a lot of people may
    care very much about food, but also have families, jobs and errands, and
    can't always put half a day's work into what they eat for dinner on any
    given weeknight. Things generally do taste better when they're fresh, it's
    true, and it's generally advisable to eat meat, fish and poultry when it IS
    fresh for the sake of one's health. But I'm sure not going to give a tired
    parent of either gender hell for using frozen spinach rather than fresh in a
    dish. They deserve credit for cooking dinner rather than just getting TV
    dinners out of the freezer. If they don't lavish all the care on it that
    they might for a special occasion, they're still making the effort to put
    homecooked food on the table.

    I'll happily eat any meal with genuine food lovers, even if we only eat
    scrambled eggs and toast. I don't have five minutes to spare for food
    snobs. I heard an interview with Ruth Reichl on Sunday, and I thought she
    summed up the difference between food lovers and food snobs rather well.
    For her, a genuine food lover can appreciate a really good grilled cheese
    sandwich or hot dog with the same pleasure as they'd eat a four-course meal
    that costs a thousand dollars per person. A food snob is more interested in
    a restaurant's status, and the fact that they're eating there than they are
    in really enjoying the food. It's kind of like the people who are so busy
    videotaping the Grand Canyon to prove they were there that they have no
    time to really LOOK and appreciate being there.

    Melissa

  12. "Melissa Houle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Vilco <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main italian
    cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial products in
    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.
    Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about food,
    but why all this snobbery?
    LOL, I hoper it's just a moment 🙂
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

    I think it IS true that Italians care very much about good food, or
    Italian
    cuisine would not be as delicious as it is. I DON'T think that
    necessarily
    makes them snobs. Or at least I hope not. Fact is, a lot of people may
    care very much about food, but also have families, jobs and errands, and
    can't always put half a day's work into what they eat for dinner on any
    given weeknight. Things generally do taste better when they're fresh, it's
    true, and it's generally advisable to eat meat, fish and poultry when it
    IS
    fresh for the sake of one's health. But I'm sure not going to give a tired
    parent of either gender hell for using frozen spinach rather than fresh in
    a
    dish. They deserve credit for cooking dinner rather than just getting TV
    dinners out of the freezer. If they don't lavish all the care on it that
    they might for a special occasion, they're still making the effort to put
    homecooked food on the table.

    I'll happily eat any meal with genuine food lovers, even if we only eat
    scrambled eggs and toast. I don't have five minutes to spare for food
    snobs. I heard an interview with Ruth Reichl on Sunday, and I thought she
    summed up the difference between food lovers and food snobs rather well.
    For her, a genuine food lover can appreciate a really good grilled cheese
    sandwich or hot dog with the same pleasure as they'd eat a four-course
    meal
    that costs a thousand dollars per person. A food snob is more interested
    in
    a restaurant's status, and the fact that they're eating there than they
    are
    in really enjoying the food. It's kind of like the people who are so busy
    videotaping the Grand Canyon to prove they were there that they have no
    time to really LOOK and appreciate being there.

    Melissa

    I think your post is right on target. A food lover enjoys good food no
    matter where it comes from. It can be cheap, simple, and plain, such as a
    homegrown tomato munched in the garden or a raw oyster slurped on the dock.
    It can also be outrageously expensive and hard to find like Chateau Margaux
    or fugu.

    I thin it one of the great fortunes of life that evolution has made
    something we must do to live - eating - also someting that can be a great
    pleasure.

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  13. Vilco said:

    Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main italian
    cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial products in
    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.
    Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about food,
    but why all this snobbery?
    LOL, I hoper it's just a moment 🙂
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

    I think it has more to do with the nature of "news groups" and the
    "internet" than it does food or Italians. The type of intolerant
    orthodoxy & behaviour you describe can be found in many group on many
    subjects.

    This type of behaviour can be found out side of the internet in "real
    life" but in those case it is usually confined to like minded
    individuals who appreciate and support the behaviour and it is unlikely
    in "real life" that a person would causally wander in to a place like
    that and not have some idea what they are getting into.
    ---
    Joseph Littleshoes

  14. Vilco said:

    Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main italian
    cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial products in
    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.
    Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about food,
    but why all this snobbery?
    LOL, I hoper it's just a moment 🙂
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

    I think it has more to do with the nature of "news groups" and the
    "internet" than it does food or Italians. The type of intolerant
    orthodoxy & behaviour you describe can be found in many group on many
    subjects.

    This type of behaviour can be found out side of the internet in "real
    life" but in those case it is usually confined to like minded
    individuals who appreciate and support the behaviour and it is unlikely
    in "real life" that a person would causally wander in to a place like
    that and not have some idea what they are getting into.
    ---
    Joseph Littleshoes

  15. Vilco said:

    Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main italian
    cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial products in
    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.
    Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about food,
    but why all this snobbery?
    LOL, I hoper it's just a moment 🙂
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

    I think it has more to do with the nature of "news groups" and the
    "internet" than it does food or Italians. The type of intolerant
    orthodoxy & behaviour you describe can be found in many group on many
    subjects.

    This type of behaviour can be found out side of the internet in "real
    life" but in those case it is usually confined to like minded
    individuals who appreciate and support the behaviour and it is unlikely
    in "real life" that a person would causally wander in to a place like
    that and not have some idea what they are getting into.
    ---
    Joseph Littleshoes

  16. Siobhan Perricone said:
    D.A.Martinich said:

    In my opinion, food snobs are trying to be trendy, ostentatious,
    and are highly suceptible to suggestion by food and wine journalist.

    I wouldn't limit "food snob" to this.

    I think a food snob is anyone who looks down on someone for eating
    something they deem unpalatable. The key, for me, is that they deride the
    other person, or hold them in contempt.

    We have a lot of food snobs on this newsgroup.

    We are lucky to have the standard bearers so we can aim higher :>

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  17. One time on Usenet said:
    Siobhan Perricone said:

    On 3 May 2005 18:17:12 -0700, "D.A.Martinich" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    In my opinion, food snobs are trying to be trendy, ostentatious,
    and are highly suceptible to suggestion by food and wine journalist.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't limit "food snob" to this.

    I think a food snob is anyone who looks down on someone for eating
    something they deem unpalatable. The key, for me, is that they deride the
    other person, or hold them in contempt.

    We have a lot of food snobs on this newsgroup.

    Quoted message said:

    We are lucky to have the standard bearers so we can aim higher :>

    *Chuckle* I guess I don't qualify as a food snob, then -- I usually
    just say "that doesn't sound good to me". Then again, I've had to listen
    to family members call my favorite devilled ham "cat food" for many
    years, so maybe I'm more sensitive... ;-)

    --
    Jani in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
    "The ships hung in the sky in much the same
    way that bricks don't" - D. Adams, HGTTG

  18. Vilco said:

    Maybe this doesn't mean nothing, but...
    There's a big difference between this cooking NG and the main italian
    cooking NG: here you can post recipes who list commercial products in
    the ingredients, while on the italian NG you can't even talk about
    frozen spinach, unless you want to be ridiculed by some food-snob.
    Yeah, damn food-snobs.
    This is sad, really sad.
    Why? I don't know... Maybe us italians are more concerned about food,
    but why all this snobbery?
    LOL, I hoper it's just a moment 🙂
    --
    Vilco
    Think pink, drink rose'

    I think it has more to do with the nature of "news groups" and the
    "internet" than it does food or Italians. The type of intolerant
    orthodoxy & behaviour you describe can be found in many group on many
    subjects.

    This type of behaviour can be found out side of the internet in "real
    life" but in those case it is usually confined to like minded
    individuals who appreciate and support the behaviour and it is unlikely
    in "real life" that a person would causally wander in to a place like
    that and not have some idea what they are getting into.
    ---
    Joseph Littleshoes

  19. Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Siobhan
    Perricone <[email hidden]> wrote:
    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    I think a food snob is anyone who looks down on someone for eating
    something they deem unpalatable. The key, for me, is that they deride the
    other person, or hold them in contempt.

    Hey, I represent that remark!! You, you, you BEET LOVER, you!!
    (What about we who don't really give a rip but sure have fun making
    sport?)

    *Laugh* I admit it *hangs her head in shame* I love beets.

    I made refridgerator pickles this weekend, and I've been happily noshing on
    them all week... I can't wait for summer and the great cucumbers at the
    farmer's market to make fridge pickles with.

    --
    Siobhan Perricone
    "I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
    I ain't afraid of your Allah
    I ain't afraid of your Jesus
    I'm afraid of what ya do in the name of your god"
    - Holly Near

  20. On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:34:22 GMT, [email hidden] (Gal

    Called Jani) said:

    *Chuckle* I guess I don't qualify as a food snob, then -- I usually
    just say "that doesn't sound good to me". Then again, I've had to listen
    to family members call my favorite devilled ham "cat food" for many
    years, so maybe I'm more sensitive... ;-)

    Heh. I'm the same way. There are so many strange things I like (peanut
    butter and mayo sandwiches with potato chips, for instance) that I can't
    really judge what anyone else eats as worthy of contempt. 😉

    --
    Siobhan Perricone
    "I ain't afraid of your Yahweh
    I ain't afraid of your Allah
    I ain't afraid of your Jesus
    I'm afraid of what ya do in the name of your god"
    - Holly Near

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