Re: Clean eating

Gooserider said:

"me" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have heard this term spoken in my gym but do not know what it means.
Could anyone explain it for me? Thanks.

Plain grilled chicken breasts, cans of tuna(in water), plain brown rice,
plain baked potatoes, leafy green vegetables, stuff like that. Nothing
processed, no salt, no sugar. :-)

Cans of tuna aren't processed? Rice isn't processed?

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:02:47 GMT, "Gooserider" <[email hidden]>

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Quoted message said:

I have heard this term spoken in my gym but do not know what it means.
Could anyone explain it for me? Thanks.

Plain grilled chicken breasts, cans of tuna(in water), plain brown rice,
plain baked potatoes, leafy green vegetables, stuff like that. Nothing
processed, no salt, no sugar. :-)

Thanks Gooserider. :-)

I've been eating *clean* then for some time
with the exception of salt. It is *tough* for me to give up that
stuff.

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Cans of tuna aren't processed? Rice isn't processed?

http://www.afic.org/Myths%20&%20Facts%20about%20Processed%20Foods.htm

But whatever. You got the gist. I do believe your brain is processed.
You're being very difficult even *after* the OP has said something
like, "Yeah, I get it now."

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Curt
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On 29 Apr 2005 19:43:09 -0700, "Curt James" <[email hidden]>

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But whatever. You got the gist. I do believe your brain is processed.
You're being very difficult even *after* the OP has said something
like, "Yeah, I get it now."

Yes I get it.

me said:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:02:47 GMT, "Gooserider" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"me" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I have heard this term spoken in my gym but do not know what it means.
Could anyone explain it for me? Thanks.

Plain grilled chicken breasts, cans of tuna(in water), plain brown rice,
plain baked potatoes, leafy green vegetables, stuff like that. Nothing
processed, no salt, no sugar. :-)

Thanks Gooserider. :-)

I've been eating *clean* then for some time
with the exception of salt. It is *tough* for me to give up that
stuff.

I only eat clean salt.

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I need some wind to get me sailing"

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Gooserider said:

"me" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I have heard this term spoken in my gym but do not know what it means.
Could anyone explain it for me? Thanks.

Plain grilled chicken breasts, cans of tuna(in water), plain brown rice,
plain baked potatoes, leafy green vegetables, stuff like that. Nothing
processed, no salt, no sugar. :-)

Cans of tuna aren't processed? Rice isn't processed?

Oh Geez, you're splitting hairs. Processed means a food which is cobbled
together with artificial flavors, colors, and assorted other [censored]. Brown
rice is just that--BROWN RICE(okay maybe with some added vitamins). Same
goes for tuna---it's TUNA.

In article <[email hidden]>,
me <[email hidden]> writes:
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Quoted message said:

I've been eating *clean* then for some time

I'd never heard the term until you posted the question here. Glad
that you did. Thanks.

Quoted message said:

with the exception of salt.

It is my *understanding* [1] that salt, in moderation, is only a
problem for people that suffer from a condition aggravated by salt
consumption (e.g.: hypertension). Nonetheless, salt, like sugar, is
over-used (here in the U.S., anyway), to cover up the poor taste of
inferior food. And to make "low fat" or "low carb" or "low fat and
low carb" stuff "taste better." [2]

Quoted message said:

It is *tough* for me to give up that
stuff.

It is my understanding [1] that it's not necessary to give up salt
entirely. Nor is it necessary to give up refined sugar entirely.
Nor refined white flour. Nor many, many other things, refined or
otherwise. (Again; Unless one suffers from a condition aggravated by
their consumption.) What's necessary is to consume them in
*moderation*, generally seeking to maintain a healthy diet consisting
primarily of Real Food, as "un-processed" as possible. [3]

I use a *lot* less (extra) salt and sugar than I used to. In fact,
the only thing I can think of, off-hand, to which I still add sugar
is my coffee--and I'm slowly cutting back on that. I still
occasionally sprinkle a bit of salt on dishes, but less of it and
less often.

I can't help but suspect that if you considered everything the
"experts" have said was "bad for you" over the last 30 years or so,
you'd find that everything was included.

[1] This is to make it clear that I'm not attempting to state what
follows as fact.
[2] Or taste like something other than cardboard. Mmmm... salted
cardboard...
[3] Except tuna. [4]
[4] For The Queen of Cans and Jars 😉

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"Runs With Knives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,
me <[email hidden]> writes:
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Quoted message said:

I've been eating *clean* then for some time

I'd never heard the term until you posted the question here. Glad
that you did. Thanks.

Quoted message said:

with the exception of salt.

It is my *understanding* [1] that salt, in moderation, is only a
problem for people that suffer from a condition aggravated by salt
consumption (e.g.: hypertension

Well, bodybuilders cut salt intake way, way down before contests because it
makes them retain water.

Roger Zoul said:

And hence, "eating clean" means "no junk". The user defines his/her
meaning. Fine.

Roger, you should just killfile her. I did *months* ago because she
isn't worth my time nor my energy.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:15:07 -0000, [email hidden] (Runs With Knives)

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I'd never heard the term until you posted the question here. Glad
that you did. Thanks.

You're welcome. :-)

Quoted message said:

It is my *understanding* [1] that salt, in moderation, is only a
problem for people that suffer from a condition aggravated by salt
consumption (e.g.: hypertension). Nonetheless, salt, like sugar, is
over-used (here in the U.S., anyway), to cover up the poor taste of
inferior food. And to make "low fat" or "low carb" or "low fat and
low carb" stuff "taste better." [2]

I do overtuse it and I do have hypertension so I will be reducing
my salt use significantly.

Quoted message said:

It is my understanding [1] that it's not necessary to give up salt
entirely. Nor is it necessary to give up refined sugar entirely.
Nor refined white flour. Nor many, many other things, refined or
otherwise. (Again; Unless one suffers from a condition aggravated by
their consumption.) What's necessary is to consume them in
*moderation*, generally seeking to maintain a healthy diet consisting
primarily of Real Food, as "un-processed" as possible. [3]

I gave up sugar and refined flour years ago. I've just recently...a
couple months ago given up caffeine.

The way I see it is....these things were doing me no benefit
healthwise so I can live without them (and probably live longer
without them too).

Quoted message said:

I use a *lot* less (extra) salt and sugar than I used to. In fact,
the only thing I can think of, off-hand, to which I still add sugar
is my coffee--and I'm slowly cutting back on that. I still
occasionally sprinkle a bit of salt on dishes, but less of it and
less often.

Been there and doing that. :-)

Quoted message said:

I can't help but suspect that if you considered everything the
"experts" have said was "bad for you" over the last 30 years or so,
you'd find that everything was included.

I stopped listening to the *experts* ages ago. It is much better to do
what I think works best for *me*.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:43:30 GMT, "Gooserider" <[email hidden]>

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Well, bodybuilders cut salt intake way, way down before contests because it
makes them retain water.

The bloody stuff makes me retain water too.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:52:45 GMT, "Gooserider" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

.Same
goes for tuna---it's TUNA.

Mmmmmm.....*tuna*. :-)

me said:

Roger Zoul said:

And hence, "eating clean" means "no junk". The user defines his/her
meaning. Fine.

Roger, you should just killfile her. I did *months* ago because she
isn't worth my time nor my energy.

Oh, no...I won't killfile Queenie! She's okay.

Roger Zoul said:

Oh, no...I won't killfile Queenie! She's okay.

Okay. It's *your* life.

me said:

Roger Zoul said:

Oh, no...I won't killfile Queenie! She's okay.

Okay. It's *your* life.

Oh, how cute, it's Roger & me !

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Proton Soup

"And all this peace has been deceiving,
I need some wind to get me sailing"

The Psychotic, Hormonally Unbalanced Whacko (Thanks, Gooserider. That's

a keeper.) said:

My point, AND I HOPE YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION,
is that no one can define any of this stuff
for anyone else - it's a personal choice,
and a personal definition. We all have
wildly differing opinions on what constitutes
"clean" or "junk" or "processed." There is
no consensus on it, and I'll be surprised
if there ever is.

So, you would disagree that, although there may be no absolute
consensus, the majority would agree that water-packed tuna and orange
juice is non-junk while a Krispy Kreme and Coke is junk?

I'M PAYING ATTENTION, QUEEN!

(leans in and awaits response)

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Curt
http://curtjames.com/

me said:

Roger Zoul said:

Oh, no...I won't killfile Queenie! She's okay.

Okay. It's *your* life.

? She doesn't impact my life....

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Gooserider said:

"Runs With Knives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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me <[email hidden]> writes:
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Quoted message said:

I've been eating *clean* then for some time

I'd never heard the term until you posted the question here. Glad
that you did. Thanks.

Quoted message said:

with the exception of salt.

It is my *understanding* [1] that salt, in moderation, is only a
problem for people that suffer from a condition aggravated by salt
consumption (e.g.: hypertension

Well, bodybuilders cut salt intake way, way down before contests because it
makes them retain water.

Only the last few days if they know what they are doing. Limiting salt
through the entire pre contest diet does nothing but make you flat and
look like [censored].

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Charles said:

Do you really think that "macronutrients" and "consuming sugar before
and after working out" with or without "quickly absorbed amino acid
sources", is if the slightest interest to the average gym-goer who
just wants to "tone" and "eat clean", burn some calories and try and
keep in shape, while taking on all that life has to throw at them!!

Then why don't you go back to misc.fitness.misc, from whence you came?
You could write about toning and eating clean to your heart's content!

Or maybe you should just create your own Yahoo! forum, like you did
for benzodiazepine users and Looe Valley Rotary pals.
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JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net