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    Tony Raven
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4493713.stm

    Car lands in home's upper floor

    Two people have been injured - one seriously - after a car "took off"
    and smashed into the top floor of a house.

    The injured people, who were in the car, were taken to hospital after
    the crash just before midnight on Wednesday, in Basingstoke, Hampshire.

    Police are investigating exactly how the car crashed into the upstairs
    wall, after going out of control on the A30.

    The occupants escaped uninjured as they were asleep in another bedroom
    of the house when the red BMW hit their home.

    A police spokeswoman said that one man was found in a passenger seat and
    the other man, who they believe could be the driver, was found under the
    front wheels.

    Joyce Harman told BBC News how she and her husband Joe were woken by the
    crash.

    "It was just horrendous," she said.

    "My husband thought the dog had knocked something over downstairs but as
    he got to the bedroom door he could see the hole in the wall and all the
    furniture moved.

    "That's when we came downstairs and saw the car there."

    'Absolutely incredible'

    The Harmans have been told they will not be able to live in their home
    for at least two months and that it will have to be partially rebuilt.

    The damaged room was their study, which used to be their children's bedroom.

    The couple's neighbour, George Harrison, said what had happened was
    "just absolutely incredible."

    "The fence has been knocked down and the car's gone through a pathway, a
    signpost, a tree and the front lawn.

    "How this happened I shall never know."

    A Hampshire Police spokesperson said the red BMW lost control on a bend
    of the nearby A30, hit the kerb and "launched through the air, colliding
    with the first floor of a house in Rainbow Close."

    "A full investigation has been launched into the circumstances of the
    crash and how the vehicle collided with the first floor," she said.

    Officers have not yet dismissed reports that a third person may have
    been driving the car.

    They are trying to trace the vehicle's registered owner, but it was not
    reported stolen at the time of the crash.

    The injured people have not been named.
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    Tony

    "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought" Lord
    Peter Wimsey (Dorothy L. Sayers)

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  2. Tumbleweed
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    "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4493713.stm

    Car lands in home's upper floor


    <snip>

    Presumably if 'the red BMW lost control' and 'the car lost control' it will
    be prosecuted for failing to look after the driver properly, who obviously
    is blameless for the incident.

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    Tumbleweed

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  3. Helen Deborah Vecht
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    "Tumbleweed" <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:

    "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4493713.stm

    Car lands in home's upper floor


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Presumably if 'the red BMW lost control' and 'the car lost control' it will
    be prosecuted for failing to look after the driver properly, who obviously
    is blameless for the incident.

    Yesterday's Metro carried the report of the inquest into the death of
    Prof Harvey Flower, a renowned expert on titanium and aerospace
    materials.

    He died reading a book on a beach on the Isle of Wight.

    A low-flying car crashed over the sea wall and crushed him.

    Verdict: misadventure.

    Reading a book on a beach must be a risky business...

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

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  4. Iain Archer
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    Tony Raven wrote on Thu, 28 Apr 2005

    Quoted message said:

    "A full investigation has been launched into the circumstances of the
    crash and how the vehicle collided with the first floor," she said.

    No mention of what speed the first floor was doing, I see.
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  5. James Thomson
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    Tony Raven said:

    Car lands in home's upper floor

    Shouldn't that be "Upper floor of home in collision with car"?

    James Thomson

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  6. m-gineering
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    Iain Archer said:


    Tony Raven wrote on Thu, 28 Apr 2005

    Quoted message said:

    "A full investigation has been launched into the circumstances of the
    crash and how the vehicle collided with the first floor," she said.

    No mention of what speed the first floor was doing, I see.

    And without lights, I expect!

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  7. JohnB
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    Iain Archer said:


    Tony Raven wrote on Thu, 28 Apr 2005

    Quoted message said:

    "A full investigation has been launched into the circumstances of the
    crash and how the vehicle collided with the first floor," she said.

    No mention of what speed the first floor was doing, I see.

    But have you noticed the 30 limit sign right outside the house.

    I cycle past this road two or three times a month.
    Crazy.

    John B

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  8. JohnB
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    James Thomson said:


    Tony Raven said:

    Car lands in home's upper floor

    Shouldn't that be "Upper floor of home in collision with car"?

    Be off with you to uk.tosspot ;-)

    John B

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  9. Dave Kahn
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    Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    Yesterday's Metro carried the report of the inquest into the death of
    Prof Harvey Flower, a renowned expert on titanium and aerospace
    materials.

    He died reading a book on a beach on the Isle of Wight.

    A low-flying car crashed over the sea wall and crushed him.

    Why does it always seem to be that the most useful, worthwhile and
    fascinating people are wiped out by mindless idiots whose only claim to
    fame is the ability to crash their car?

    --
    Dave...

    Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
    future of the human race. - H. G. Wells

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  10. Tony Raven
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    Helen Deborah Vecht said:


    Yesterday's Metro carried the report of the inquest into the death of
    Prof Harvey Flower, a renowned expert on titanium and aerospace
    materials.

    He died reading a book on a beach on the Isle of Wight.

    A low-flying car crashed over the sea wall and crushed him.

    Verdict: misadventure.

    Reading a book on a beach must be a risky business...

    I knew Harvey. I hadn't heard the verdict. A great tragedy.

    --
    Tony

    "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought" Lord
    Peter Wimsey (Dorothy L. Sayers)

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  11. Dave Kahn
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    JohnB said:
    Iain Archer said:

    Tony Raven wrote on Thu, 28 Apr 2005

    Quoted message said:

    "A full investigation has been launched into the circumstances of the
    crash and how the vehicle collided with the first floor," she said.

    No mention of what speed the first floor was doing, I see.

    But have you noticed the 30 limit sign right outside the house.

    You suspect the driver[1] may have been exceeding this, do you? What
    evidence, apart from a 100 yard trail of destruction and a hole in the
    1st floor wall of a house, do you base this on?

    [1] It appears the driver is either missing (probably fled down the
    stairs) or else ran himself over in someone else's 1st floor study. I
    bet he didn't expect that to happen when he eased himself behind the
    wheel for another demonstration of above average driving skill.

    --
    Dave...

    Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
    future of the human race. - H. G. Wells

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  12. Dave Kahn
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    JohnB said:
    James Thomson said:
    Tony Raven said:

    Car lands in home's upper floor

    Shouldn't that be "Upper floor of home in collision with car"?

    Be off with you to uk.tosspot ;-)

    It was obviously the householders' fault. They'd probably left the
    bedroom light off.

    --
    Dave...

    Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
    future of the human race. - H. G. Wells

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  13. Ambrose Nankivell
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    Tumbleweed said:

    "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4493713.stm

    Car lands in home's upper floor


    <snip>

    Presumably if 'the red BMW lost control' and 'the car lost control'
    it will be prosecuted for failing to look after the driver properly,
    who obviously is blameless for the incident.

    A first story bedroom was in collision with a red BMW on Wednesday in
    Basingstoke...

    A

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  14. Tilly
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    On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:12:29 GMT, Dave Kahn <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    JohnB said:
    James Thomson said:

    "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >Car lands in home's upper floor

    Shouldn't that be "Upper floor of home in collision with car"?

    Be off with you to uk.tosspot ;-)

    It was obviously the householders' fault. They'd probably left the
    bedroom light off.

    Had the house been wearing a helmet at the time...

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  15. Alan Braggins
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    In article said:
    JohnB said:
    Quoted message said:

    >"A full investigation has been launched into the circumstances of the
    >crash and how the vehicle collided with the first floor," she said.

    No mention of what speed the first floor was doing, I see.

    But have you noticed the 30 limit sign right outside the house.


    I don't see a 30 sign in any of the pictures and I'm pretty sure that
    that stretch of A30 is 40mph from the Crabtree Plantation to the Hook
    side of Martin's VW garage.

    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41088000/jpg/_41088175_hole.jpg
    clearly has a 30mph sign, but it's on the side road the car crossed into
    the house, not on the A30.

    It must however, have been doing one hell of a speed on the A30 to go
    across the grass, clip a fence, across the side road, and through the
    air to hit the house. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4494655.stm
    "In pictures: The trail of destruction".

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  16. Helen Deborah Vecht
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    Tony Raven <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:
    Helen Deborah Vecht said:


    Yesterday's Metro carried the report of the inquest into the death of
    Prof Harvey Flower, a renowned expert on titanium and aerospace
    materials.

    He died reading a book on a beach on the Isle of Wight.

    A low-flying car crashed over the sea wall and crushed him.

    Verdict: misadventure.

    Reading a book on a beach must be a risky business...

    Quoted message said:

    I knew Harvey. I hadn't heard the verdict. A great tragedy.

    Indeed. My partner did his PhD with him @ Imperial.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

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  17. Jon Senior
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    Al C-F said:

    Amazing. On the video, the beeb refer to it as an 'accident'. Twice.

    Hey, [censored] happens...

    This morning I was driving the A7 to Galshiels when I came across a
    policeman, herding traffic through a single lane. The reason being that
    the other lane was occupied by a car which was pointing mostly the wrong
    way and whose bonnet was completely stoved in. The road was covered in
    glass and a bloke was standing around looking confused.

    My guess is that he took a bend too fast, lost control and bounced off
    one of the many large rocks that are used to line that area of road. Had
    the rocks not been there he would probably have ended up in the field to
    one side.

    I was discussing this later with my driving instructor, who's initial
    comment was "Yep. It's a dangerous road.". It took a lot of willpower
    not to ask exactly what was dangerous about it and how that differed
    from the dangerous morons who think that 90mph is a sensible speed to
    travel along winding country roads.

    Jon

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  18. Tony Raven
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    Jon Senior said:


    This morning I was driving the A7 to Galshiels when I came across a
    policeman, herding traffic through a single lane. The reason being that
    the other lane was occupied by a car which was pointing mostly the wrong
    way and whose bonnet was completely stoved in. The road was covered in
    glass and a bloke was standing around looking confused.

    One of the TV car progs had a piece on how standard design lampposts and
    road signs were killing people. What they should have said is people
    were killing themselves by leaving the road at speed and hitting
    lampposts in single vehicle accidents. My thought is at least they
    stopped them going further on the pavement and killing more innocent
    bystanders.

    --
    Tony

    "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought" Lord
    Peter Wimsey (Dorothy L. Sayers)

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  19. JLB
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    Tony Raven said:
    Jon Senior said:


    This morning I was driving the A7 to Galshiels when I came across a
    policeman, herding traffic through a single lane. The reason being
    that the other lane was occupied by a car which was pointing mostly
    the wrong way and whose bonnet was completely stoved in. The road was
    covered in glass and a bloke was standing around looking confused.

    One of the TV car progs had a piece on how standard design lampposts and
    road signs were killing people. What they should have said is people
    were killing themselves by leaving the road at speed and hitting
    lampposts in single vehicle accidents. My thought is at least they
    stopped them going further on the pavement and killing more innocent
    bystanders.


    It's not just the UK either. There was a news article maybe a year ago
    (I can be more vague) about people in France getting increasingly upset
    that many large mature avenues of plane trees along various roads were
    being chainsawed as the standard response if a car left the road and hit
    one of the trees. This response was adopted even if the car was being
    driven by a speeding drunk. Obviously the authorities there are just as
    convinced as ours that dangerous, out-of-control trees must not be
    tolerated.
    --
    Joe * If I cannot be free I'll be cheap

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  20. Tony Raven
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    JLB said:

    Obviously the authorities there are just as
    convinced as ours that dangerous, out-of-control trees must not be
    tolerated.

    Cut off their trunks and burn the bodies!

    --
    Tony

    "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought" Lord
    Peter Wimsey (Dorothy L. Sayers)

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