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  1. As triathlete I swim in and outside.
    I try to swim a full1/2 hour a day crawl as training.
    When I am swimming inside in the 25m pool I am tired to death every time.
    I tought it was of the intensity of the workout.
    Today I swimmed only 10 minutes at noon and I have the same problem: whole
    afternoon serious fatigue.
    Is it maybe because of the chloor in the air at the pool???
    When I am swimming outside in summer then I have the feeling that I am not
    that fatigued and soor.
    Please advice,

    Bernard
    P.S. Sorry of my poor english

  2. Bernard said:

    As triathlete I swim in and outside.
    I try to swim a full1/2 hour a day crawl as training.
    When I am swimming inside in the 25m pool I am tired to death every time.
    I tought it was of the intensity of the workout.
    Today I swimmed only 10 minutes at noon and I have the same problem: whole
    afternoon serious fatigue.
    Is it maybe because of the chloor in the air at the pool???
    When I am swimming outside in summer then I have the feeling that I am not
    that fatigued and soor.
    Please advice,

    Is the water temperature of the indoor pool higher? Sometimes indoor
    pools are heated to above 28C, which is too warm for training. That
    would cause the fatigue you are feeling.

    If the pool chemistry is within the correct limits, it is not likely the
    chlorine is the problem.

  3. Bernard said:

    As triathlete I swim in and outside.
    I try to swim a full1/2 hour a day crawl as training.
    When I am swimming inside in the 25m pool I am tired to death every time.
    I tought it was of the intensity of the workout.
    Today I swimmed only 10 minutes at noon and I have the same problem: whole
    afternoon serious fatigue.
    Is it maybe because of the chloor in the air at the pool???
    When I am swimming outside in summer then I have the feeling that I am not
    that fatigued and soor.
    Please advice,

    Bernard
    P.S. Sorry of my poor english


    If there is poor ventilation in the pool room, I think the cholorine in
    the air could account for the fatigue. Does your chest feel congested
    afterward? A very hot pool or too much exposure to florescent lights
    could also explain some of the fatigue.
    Madelaine

  4. Madelaine said:
    Bernard said:

    As triathlete I swim in and outside.
    I try to swim a full1/2 hour a day crawl as training.
    When I am swimming inside in the 25m pool I am tired to death every time.
    I tought it was of the intensity of the workout.
    Today I swimmed only 10 minutes at noon and I have the same problem:
    whole
    afternoon serious fatigue.
    Is it maybe because of the chloor in the air at the pool???
    When I am swimming outside in summer then I have the feeling that I am
    not
    that fatigued and soor.
    Please advice,

    Bernard
    P.S. Sorry of my poor english


    If there is poor ventilation in the pool room, I think the cholorine in
    the air could account for the fatigue. Does your chest feel congested
    afterward? A very hot pool or too much exposure to florescent lights
    could also explain some of the fatigue.
    Madelaine

    Maybe not just the chlorine but the water vapor too. I've never
    experienced this in a pool, but in a steamy hot tub the moist air can
    leave me feeling short of breath.

  5. Madelaine <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Bernard said:

    As triathlete I swim in and outside.
    I try to swim a full1/2 hour a day crawl as training.
    When I am swimming inside in the 25m pool I am tired to death every time.
    I tought it was of the intensity of the workout.
    Today I swimmed only 10 minutes at noon and I have the same problem: whole
    afternoon serious fatigue.
    Is it maybe because of the chloor in the air at the pool???
    When I am swimming outside in summer then I have the feeling that I am not
    that fatigued and soor.
    Please advice,


    <snip>

    This is a post asking a very similar question to one that appeared in
    alt.med .allergy on 25th April 2005 by Michele S
    ([email hidden]) , see
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.med.allergy/msg/71576d1076e9b16b

    Quoted message said:

    Hi everybody, > > >
    I am really wanting to get back to swimming again, which is an


    activity I enjoyed very much while younger, and which is a good one
    for me at my current weight. However, over the years (perhaps from
    all the time I have spent in pools?), I have developed what I believe
    is a sensitivity to chlorine. I find when I have been swimming in
    chlorinated pools, I seem to get more and more tired. I believe that
    the chlorine has an effect on me systemically. We do not have any
    ozonated pools where I live, so that is not an option. The ocean is
    not great for swimming laps. (Maybe I'll consider open water swimming
    -- complete with wetsuit -- if I get a LOT more fit.) What I'm
    wondering is if anybody knows of any method for desensitization to
    chlorine? Would this be worth a trip to an allergist or a naturopath
    or... or...??
    Thanks.

    My reply, as below is I feel almost as applicable to this post.

    Quoted message said:

    It is usually not the chlorine per say that is the problem but rather


    the chlorine by products, especially nitrogen tri chloride. In essence
    the chlorine and bromine systems work by removing the organic and
    nitrogenous matter from the water and getting rid of it into the air
    by oxidising them into gaseous forms. Thus there then has to be a
    second stage removal of contaminants whereby this gaseous material is
    removed from above the surface of the water. This is a key element of
    the process, which is not commonly understood and therefore often
    poorly managed in many indoor pools. There is also tendency to reduce
    ventilation to save on running costs and this can result in poor air
    quality, right in your breathing zone. The pH of the water is also
    critical to good chlorine usage. If you can "smell the chlorine" they
    are getting it wrong. Is your problem only with indoor pools ?
    Ozone (and many of the other methods) only really works if the pool
    has a low organic load, which relies on either hardly any swimmers
    (e.g. a private home pool) or very good bather pre swim hygiene, or
    preferably both. Sadly in most public pools this is not well
    understood or managed and so ozone does not succeed in reliably
    keeping the micro-organisms at acceptable levels. This is why it is
    not common, in the UK or USA, and when installed is often replaced
    with a chlorine system when it fails the bug counts. Management's seem
    to prefer to try to treat the symptoms of dirty swimmers rather than
    deal with it at source.
    Now you know why those "shower before you swim" signs are there. To
    really be effective they need to be nude showers with soap, then put a
    clean swimsuit on. In the words of the CDC a quick rinse over a
    swimsuit really does very little. If the dirt, bugs and other organic
    contaminants are effectively removed before the swimmers can pollute
    the water then there is a huge reduction in the chemical demand and
    this means far less needs to be ultimately removed by ventilation etc.
    etc.
    It is ironic that the reason most people "need" to shower after a swim
    is because they do not shower properly before they get in and to
    compensate high chlorine levels are used.
    Thus either find yourself a well managed (in the chemical / hygiene
    sense) pool or force / embarrass the management of your current pool
    to get their act together. If all the people you see approaching the
    pool are wet, but with dry costumes on (presuming it is not a skinny
    dipping pool), then this is the best simple indicator that the pool
    management is taking hygiene and chemical safety seriously. In some
    countries (Iceland for example) proper showering is both the accepted
    social norm and is rigorously enforced, to the embarrassment of some
    tourists. They can use much lower chlorine levels without
    micro-organisms being a problem.

    I would add that poor indoor air quality has been recognised as an
    occupational health problem for some poolside workers and chlorine by
    products may be a trigger for asthma in those who already have the
    condition.

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