OT: Bread is Dangerous

Danny Colyer said:

Statistically proven:
<URL:http://www.eskimo.com/~spban/bread.html>

Oh my God. And we have a breadmaker.

Sam
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http://www.bikereader.com

Danny Colyer said:

Statistically proven:
<URL:http://www.eskimo.com/~spban/bread.html>

More so if mixed with this?
http://samsara.circus.com/~no_dhmo/

Tony

Danny Colyer said:

Statistically proven:
<URL:http://www.eskimo.com/~spban/bread.html>

http://www.dhmo.org/

It gets worse!

sam said:

Danny Colyer said:

Statistically proven:
<URL:http://www.eskimo.com/~spban/bread.html>

Oh my God. And we have a breadmaker.

Pusher! Whats the going street price at the moment?

Tosspot said:

Quoted message said:

sam wrote:
Oh my God. And we have a breadmaker.

Pusher! Whats the going street price at the moment?

It's not as profitable as my side business in Dihydrogen Monoxide. If I
don't make styrofoam, industrial solvents and coolants, and pesticides,
my next door neighbour will.

Sam
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http://www.bikereader.com

On 23 Apr 2005 14:45:52 -0700 someone who may be "sam"
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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Quoted message said:

<URL:http://www.eskimo.com/~spban/bread.html>

Oh my God. And we have a breadmaker.

And what are the party politicians doing about your evil
activities:-)

Think of the children, if just one life is saved, we must stop this
ever happening again, those who are innocent have nothing to fear,
it's obvious innit,...

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Danny Colyer said:

Statistically proven:
<URL:http://www.eskimo.com/~spban/bread.html>

When I had a nasty 'flu bug, I could eat nothing but fresh fruit,
and touched neither caffiene nor alcohol. From which I conclude
that fresh fruit has a strong association with illness, and
deprivation of caffiene or alcohol is dangerous.

--
Not me guv

David Hansen said:

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Quoted message said:

Oh my God. And we have a breadmaker.

And what are the party politicians doing about your evil
activities:-)

It's hard to imagine that my party of choice, the Greens, would be
pro-breadmaker. Complete DIY is more environmentally sound. They might
grudgingly approve of the fact that it usually only sees wholemeal
flour.

Sam
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http://www.bikereader.com

sam said:

It's hard to imagine that my party of choice, the Greens, would be
pro-breadmaker.

I could never vote for a party that names itself after school cabbage ;-)

Tony

sam said:

It's hard to imagine that my party of choice, the Greens, would be
pro-breadmaker. Complete DIY is more environmentally sound. They might
grudgingly approve of the fact that it usually only sees wholemeal
flour.

GM-free organic free-range fairtrade sun-dried hand-made wholemeal
flour? anything else is teh work of stan.

d.

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Quoted message said:

David Hansen said:

<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Oh my God. And we have a breadmaker.

And what are the party politicians doing about your evil
activities:-)

It's hard to imagine that my party of choice, the Greens, would be
pro-breadmaker. Complete DIY is more environmentally sound. They might
grudgingly approve of the fact that it usually only sees wholemeal
flour.

WHOLEMEAL flour!?!?

Jesus, next you'll be saying you make the really hard stuff like Cake....

;-)

On 24 Apr 2005 03:10:56 -0700 someone who may be "sam"
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It's hard to imagine that my party of choice, the Greens, would be
pro-breadmaker. Complete DIY is more environmentally sound.

Perhaps. However, I was mildly surprised to see that food processors
get the thumbs up in my 1996 Green Home Handbook from Friends of the
Earth Scotland. "Food blender - To make your own food from your own
ingredients, a food blender is a vital piece of equipment. The
energy and money you save by doing this more than outweighs the
small amount consumed by the blender."

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

David Hansen quoted:

Quoted message said:

"The
energy and money you save by doing this more than outweighs the
small amount consumed by the blender."

They fail to take into account the time and energy you have to spend on
taking the wretched thing apart and cleaning it afterwards.

And what's wrong with a good old-fashioned knife and chopping board?
That's what I want to know.

d.

Nathaniel Porter said:

"sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>Oh my God. And we have a breadmaker.

And what are the party politicians doing about your evil
activities:-)

It's hard to imagine that my party of choice, the Greens, would be
pro-breadmaker. Complete DIY is more environmentally sound. They

might

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grudgingly approve of the fact that it usually only sees wholemeal
flour.

WHOLEMEAL flour!?!?

Jesus, next you'll be saying you make the really hard stuff like

Cake....

Quoted message said:

;-)

Fortunately, wholemeal bread is a breeze. My rice cooker (I don't do
anything myself) isn't always fond of wholegrain rice, though.

I hate to sound like a tool of the breadmaker makers, but I could never
go back to store bought. It's that good.

Sam
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http://www.bikereader.com

On 24/4/05 6:17 pm, in article
[email hidden], "sam"

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Nathaniel Porter said:

"sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

>> Oh my God. And we have a breadmaker.
>
> And what are the party politicians doing about your evil
> activities:-)

It's hard to imagine that my party of choice, the Greens, would be
pro-breadmaker. Complete DIY is more environmentally sound. They

might

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

grudgingly approve of the fact that it usually only sees wholemeal
flour.

WHOLEMEAL flour!?!?

Jesus, next you'll be saying you make the really hard stuff like

Cake....

Quoted message said:

;-)

Fortunately, wholemeal bread is a breeze. My rice cooker (I don't do
anything myself) isn't always fond of wholegrain rice, though.

I hate to sound like a tool of the breadmaker makers, but I could never
go back to store bought. It's that good.

I have a breadmaker. The good thing is that you know exactly what goes into
it. The bad thing is that the bread is relatively uneven and a silly shape.
The good thing is waking up to the smell of fresh bread. Still nowhere near
as good as making it by hand. Kneading the dough is also a great way to get
the ingrained dirt off your hands after fixing the bike..

I find 1 part wholemeal to 3 parts plain white flour using 1:1 vegetarian
suet and olive oil for the fat works great, and prove the yeast first, even
the 'easy cook' dried stuff.

The biggest problem is that it takes a long time when I would rather be out
on the bike. Coming home to a bacon sarnie made with fresh bread is great
though.

...d

On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:37:37 +0100 someone who may be davek
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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Quoted message said:

"The
energy and money you save by doing this more than outweighs the
small amount consumed by the blender."

They fail to take into account the time and energy you have to spend on
taking the wretched thing apart and cleaning it afterwards.

Put it in the dishwasher:-)

Quoted message said:

And what's wrong with a good old-fashioned knife and chopping board?
That's what I want to know.

I think the argument is that a food processor makes someone more
likely to cook for themselves, as it removes much of the drudgery of
preparation. Not everyone has people to do that sort of thing. One
was very useful yesterday to chop up onions, mushrooms and make the
breadcrumbs that became the stuffing in my chicken. I probably
wouldn't have made a cake mix by hand, but bought one in a shop.

--
David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

davek said:

David Hansen quoted:

Quoted message said:

"The
energy and money you save by doing this more than outweighs the
small amount consumed by the blender."

They fail to take into account the time and energy you have to spend

on

Quoted message said:

taking the wretched thing apart and cleaning it afterwards.

And what's wrong with a good old-fashioned knife and chopping board?
That's what I want to know.

d.

Mostly nothing but a food processor looks very useful for fine purées
or for bulk (by house kitchen standards) processing. Chopped liver
done with a knife or diced figs for that matter are a lot of effort by
knife. Hey, maybe I should get a food processor!

On 24/4/05 7:48 pm, in article [email hidden],

David Hansen said:

I probably
wouldn't have made a cake mix by hand, but bought one in a shop.

Bleaghh.. Can't stand packet cakes. I'd rather eat bread.

But cakes are dead easy to make..

...d

On 24/4/05 7:56 pm, in article
[email hidden], "John_Kane"

Quoted message said:

Mostly nothing but a food processor looks very useful for fine purées
or for bulk (by house kitchen standards) processing. Chopped liver
done with a knife or diced figs for that matter are a lot of effort by
knife. Hey, maybe I should get a food processor!

I minced 3kg of elk meet by hand (knife and chopping board) once. Oh for a
mincer..

...d