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  1. I'm full and exhausted! :-)

    I cleaned and prepped all day, put the chicken in at 4:30.
    Guests were due to arrive between 6-6:30-ish.

    I decided on a simple roasted chicken. 5.5 lb roaster.
    Salted and peppered inside, generous sprinkle of Ozark seasoning, stuffed
    with lots of garlic, an onion, a cut up carrot and fresh dill weed. I also
    put some dill under the skin, along with some garlic cloves, between the
    breast and thigh. Then a good pat down with lots more Ozark
    seasoning....tied the thing up (so the wings and legs were close to the
    body) and sat it on a bed of celery in my favorite shallow 9x9 Corningware
    dish. Into the oven at 350 at 4:30pm.

    Around 5:15, every hostess' worst nightmare occurred!!!
    I was vacuuming the dining room, when suddenly, no vacuum, no lights, no
    radio, NO OVEN! The power went out. My first thought was that I blew a
    circuit breaker but no, the oven is on a separate breaker...so it couldn't
    be. I yelled upstairs for my neighbor and she was in the dark, too.

    So I called my guests, one by one, and told them "If the lights don't come
    back on by 6pm, dinner is off." I was panicky. I nearly cried. But I
    persevered. I set the table, ever hopeful, but knowing full well that dinner
    could be ruined.

    I went down with a bag of trash and saw neighbors outside, I asked if they
    were in the dark, they said their lights had JUST come back on! I went in
    the house, happy!!! Called my friends, they showed up by 7 and all systems
    were go.

    The soup was sublime. I had actually made a pot full of chicken stock a few
    months ago and froze some of it, with just this purpose in mind. I added
    some additional water and some soup base to it, (about 50% of the total
    volume was soup base, half was home made) along with some sliced carrot and
    celery, and some fresh parsley, along with some green onion for good
    measure. It simmered for about 3 hours (including the 45 min or so that the
    electricity was off and it was just sitting with a lid on). The matzo ball
    mixture sat for 4 hours in the fridge, they were light as a feather in the
    soup. I think they cooked for....45 min or so. SO delicious. And they were
    made strictly with eggs, schmaltz, onion powder, salt and pepper, a bit of
    garlic powder and of course, matzo meal. No water, no seltzer. No
    separating eggs, no leavening. Just a sticky batter, very little handling
    and a good long rest.

    With the soup and the chicken we had a "dressing" made with crumbled matzo.
    Just the way I made bread stuffing, only..with matzo. I sauteed some sliced
    celery, diced onions and sliced mushrooms in schmaltz, seasoned it well with
    fresh parsley, salt and pepper, added in some broth and an entire box of
    matzo, crumbled. Added more broth, until it was the texture I wanted. I
    have no idea how much, I had the soup simmering on the stove, I just ladled
    it from one pot to the next. I covered that and kept it warm. At one point
    it went into the oven when the chicken came out.

    Veggies were simple roasted asparagus and I felt like we needed something
    red so I opened a can of baby beets and warmed them up, and then sprinkled
    them with Sunny Paris. They were delicious, if you like beets. We do.

    For dessert, my friend made a flourless chocolate cake taht was TO DIE FOR!
    OH MY GOD, it was sooo good. Really rich, really decadent, and pareve, too,
    not like that mattered, but she was so proud that it didn't have any dairy
    in it. It was a fudge cake bottom and there was some type of ganache-type
    stuff on top...all I know is, it had two different textures, cakey and
    creamy and it was one of the best desserts I've ever eaten!

    We had to laugh when we got to the part of the seder where you read off the
    10 plagues...when we got to "darkness" I said a special thank you to the Big
    Guy for alleviating that one tonight!

    It was an amazing meal and I had the best friends a woman could ever have
    around the table with me. The only thing that would have made it better was
    to have had my parents here in body, rather than "just" in spirit.

    But we used Mom's dishes and crystal and silver flatware, and the pan I
    cooked the chicken in had been hers, so Mom's presence was definitely felt.
    And Dad, well, I wore a Red Sox championship shirt, which he would have
    LOVED, so they were both there in spirit, anyway. They loved the foods of
    Passover and I made all the stuff that we would have had if they'd been
    here.

    And Margaret, thanks for your advice about the seder tray! I have a small
    Mikasa crystal relish dish in the shape of a Star of David (6 points) that I
    piled the charoses in, put that in the center of my "silver" tray, and I
    arranged 4 little dishes from the china set in each corner, which held the
    parsley, lettuce, sliced hard boiled egg, and horseradish. Then I just set
    the shank bone right on the platter, where it would fit in. It was very
    pretty and worked out nicely.

    And now, I need to find my bed......
    Happy Passover everyone!

  2. On Sat 23 Apr 2005 08:24:57p, Sheryl Rosen wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:


    I'm full and exhausted! :-)

    I cleaned and prepped all day, put the chicken in at 4:30.
    Guests were due to arrive between 6-6:30-ish.

    Sheryl, the foods you prepared sound wonderful. Though I am not Jewish, I
    have attended a Seder several times and each was memorable. I'm glad
    everything went so well for you and your guests. Happy Passover!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, Sheryl Rosen

    Quoted message said:

    I'm full and exhausted! :-)


    (snip)

    Quoted message said:

    And now, I need to find my bed......
    Happy Passover everyone!

    Great story! Thanks for telling.
    -Barb
    --
    -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updates in mid-April.
    "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
    say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
    performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

  4. Sheryl Rosen said:

    Sunny Paris.

    What's that? And your dinner sounds SO good!

    serene
    --
    http://serenejournal.livejournal.com
    http://www.jhuger.com

  5. Sheryl Rosen said:

    I'm full and exhausted! :-)

    I cleaned and prepped all day, put the chicken in at 4:30.
    Guests were due to arrive between 6-6:30-ish.


    <snip>

    Glad your power went back on. 🙂 That could have been really bad...

    -L.

  6. Sheryl Rosen <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Strange... that sounds SO familiar (except for the power problem;
    however that did cross my mind as the DC area was under a storm watch
    and we did get a lot of rain, which stopped just as the guests began
    to arrive).

    Anyway, the brisket was overdone but delicious.
    The roasted/broiled chicken was outstanding.
    Thre roasted veggies were a bit dry - should have covered them while
    they rested in the oven.
    The tomato rose to hold the horseradish was pretty, but just didn't
    seem to fit. Something jarred with the layout.
    I tried soda water to leven the dumplings and they came out great and
    light. Soup was delicious.
    We had three guests and they didn't oohh and aahhh over my printed
    menu. Philistines. Well, I had a lot of fun designing it.
    Lots of leftovers; yum.
    Got to remember to bring the pickles and olives back inside from the
    porch. - Mike

  7. Sheryl Rosen said:

    I'm full and exhausted! :-)

    * Great description of the Seder snipped.*

    Quoted message said:

    And now, I need to find my bed...... Happy Passover everyone!

    What a wonderful way to have a traditional/untraditional Seder. When
    you are among friends, your Passover is sweet, indeed.

    My Seder was uneventful, but for the first time that I can remember,
    the beef brisket did not turn out good. :o( Since we were only
    three, I did not serve the roasted veal and I was sorry that I had
    not, since it would have been a better choice. I froze it instead,
    dummy that I am. Both Laura and Marcel insisted the brisket was good,
    but that is just being tactful, not being honest.

    Ein Suessen Pessach to you and all others in rfc, M

  8. Margaret Suran at [email hidden] wrote on 4/24/05 7:51 AM:

    Quoted message said:
    Sheryl Rosen said:

    I'm full and exhausted! :-)

    * Great description of the Seder snipped.*

    Quoted message said:

    And now, I need to find my bed...... Happy Passover everyone!

    What a wonderful way to have a traditional/untraditional Seder. When
    you are among friends, your Passover is sweet, indeed.

    My Seder was uneventful, but for the first time that I can remember,
    the beef brisket did not turn out good. :o( Since we were only
    three, I did not serve the roasted veal and I was sorry that I had
    not, since it would have been a better choice. I froze it instead,
    dummy that I am. Both Laura and Marcel insisted the brisket was good,
    but that is just being tactful, not being honest.

    Ein Suessen Pessach to you and all others in rfc, M

    Margaret, how could brisket be bad?
    Unless it didn't cook long enough????
    I am really craving brisket or at least, a good pot roast. I opted not to
    have pot roast last night b/c I really wanted to serve matzo stuffing, and
    because I served them pot roast the last time they were here.

    If I can find a small brisket today at the store, for less than a king's
    ransom, I may pick one up. There's always the crock pot mid-week!

  9. Dog3 at uhoh@ajfl;ajklsd;ajlds.nutz wrote on 4/24/05 8:09 AM:

    Quoted message said:

    . The Matzo Ball soup was really, really good. I could have
    made a meal out of it.

    That's what my Dad always used to say!
    "To heck with the rest of meal, I want more soup!"

    Matzo ball soup is one of those things that is absolutely greater than sum
    of its parts, isn't it? I mean, think about it. It is one of the most humble
    thing you could have. Crumbs from unleavened bread, mixed with beaten egg,
    floated in soup that in my case is made from what's left after you eat a
    chicken. You don't think I"m not gonna take what's left of last night's
    chicken to make stock with? Guess again!

    For me, it's more than just food though, it's memories of happier times with
    wonderful people, who were healthy and vibrant and loving.

  10. Margaret Suran said:


    What a wonderful way to have a traditional/untraditional Seder. When
    you are among friends, your Passover is sweet, indeed.

    My Seder was uneventful, but for the first time that I can remember,
    the beef brisket did not turn out good. :o( Since we were only
    three, I did not serve the roasted veal and I was sorry that I had
    not, since it would have been a better choice. I froze it instead,
    dummy that I am. Both Laura and Marcel insisted the brisket was good,
    but that is just being tactful, not being honest.

    Ein Suessen Pessach to you and all others in rfc, M


    I wish the weather had been better for the holiday but it sounds like
    you both had a nice dinner with your friends.

    Of course you probably are more critical of your brisket than Marcel
    and Laura! It reminds me of an office where I worked many years ago.
    One of the ladies, Mary, liked to bake and one day she brought in
    this wonderful peach pie. We were in heaven yet she was fretting that
    it didn't come out very well. I'm sure her evaluation was correct;
    maybe the filling was too sweet, maybe the crust wasn't flaky enough,
    I really don't remember what her specific criticisms were. What I do
    remember was a delicious pie.

    I'm sure that Marcel and Laura will remember a lovely dinner with a
    wonderful friend. :>

    After listening to Mary for a while, we eventually told her (with a
    wink, of course), "You know, you are right. This pie is not really
    that good. The only way to get it right is to KEEP PRACTICING. We
    are willing to help you by evaluating your mistakes."

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  11. Sheryl Rosen said:

    Dog3 at uhoh@ajfl;ajklsd;ajlds.nutz wrote on 4/24/05 8:09 AM:

    Quoted message said:

    . The Matzo Ball soup was really, really good. I could have
    made a meal out of it.

    That's what my Dad always used to say!
    "To heck with the rest of meal, I want more soup!"


    And many people make a whole meal out of Chicken Soup with Matzoh
    Balls, or noodles or rice or whatever, with carrots and other
    vegetables and the boiled chicken. It is called Chicken In The Pot
    and many restaurants used to serve it. Some still do.

  12. Sheryl Rosen said:


    Margaret, how could brisket be bad?
    Unless it didn't cook long enough????
    I am really craving brisket or at least, a good pot roast. I opted not to
    have pot roast last night b/c I really wanted to serve matzo stuffing, and
    because I served them pot roast the last time they were here.

    If I can find a small brisket today at the store, for less than a king's
    ransom, I may pick one up. There's always the crock pot mid-week!

    It wasn't easy, but I managed it. First of all, I may have picked a
    piece of brisket that was too lean. Then, I used the wrong kind of
    onions and not enough of them. Lately, there is a new onion in the
    stores, instead of round like a ball, it is elongated, like a fat
    carrot, about one and a half inches in diameter and perhaps four or
    five inches long. Both yellow and red ones can be found and they are
    very convenient when you need uniformly sized onion slices. When I
    serve Nova Scotia Lox with a plate of sliced tomatoes and onions on
    the side, alternating the slices of each, the uniformity makes for a
    very pretty display. Since I do not eat lox, I have never bothered to
    see how the onion tastes. I assumed it has the regular oniony taste.
    Is anybody else familiar with these onions?

    When I started on the brisket, these are the onions I chose to use,
    since I had one red and one yellow in my vegetable crisper. I also
    used a regular round, yellow one, but it was not very large. When I
    tasted the gravy when the meat was done, it tasted very flat, as if I
    had not used any or very little onion. When I told a neighbor about
    it, she said that I should not have used the long onions, that they
    are quite tasteless. Adding more at this point was too late. :o(

    I never claimed to be a good cook. As a matter of fact, when TJ and I
    first emailed each other, she asked me: "Margaret, tell me, what are
    you doing in rfc?" I still have no credible answer, but after all
    these years, I still cherish her question. :o)

  13. Serene said:
    Sheryl Rosen said:

    Sunny Paris.

    What's that? And your dinner sounds SO good!

    serene

    http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeyssunnyparis.html

    My mother invited us to the seder tonight. I havent been at a seder at
    my mom's house in almost 10 years. I'm definitely looking forward to it
    (though i know that we're probably not eating till nearly 11 🙂

  14. "Sheryl Rosen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm full and exhausted! :-)

    I cleaned and prepped all day, put the chicken in at 4:30.
    Guests were due to arrive between 6-6:30-ish.

    I decided on a simple roasted chicken. 5.5 lb roaster.
    Salted and peppered inside, generous sprinkle of Ozark seasoning, stuffed
    with lots of garlic, an onion,

    Chicken at Sheryl's, brisket at Margaret's, I should have dropped in to both
    places. Glad things went will in spite of the electric.

  15. On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:09:44 GMT, Dog3 <uhoh@ajfl;ajklsd;ajlds.nutz>

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, I forgot to mention the gefilte fish made from
    scratch and served with red horseradish. Yummmm....

    I LOVE gefilte fish! The first time I ate some (as a teenager), it
    was prepared by my friend's grandma who was making the whole 9 yards
    of traditional food that day. Maybe it was Passover, but I didn't
    know it at the time.

  16. Sheryl Rosen said:

    I'm full and exhausted! :-)

    Quoted message said:


    And now, I need to find my bed......
    Happy Passover everyone!

    Your seder sounds delicious and fulfilling, Sheryl.

    Happy Passover to you.

    gloria p

  17. sarah bennett said:

    My mother invited us to the seder tonight. I havent been at a seder at
    my mom's house in almost 10 years. I'm definitely looking forward to it
    (though i know that we're probably not eating till nearly 11 🙂

    I have never been to a seder (which, since my grandfather is Jewish, is
    a little weird, in my opinion). It always sounds so great when people
    describe it.

    serene
    --
    http://serenejournal.livejournal.com
    http://www.jhuger.com

  18. Edwin Pawlowski at [email hidden] wrote on 4/24/05 10:56 AM:

    Quoted message said:


    "Sheryl Rosen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm full and exhausted! :-)

    I cleaned and prepped all day, put the chicken in at 4:30.
    Guests were due to arrive between 6-6:30-ish.

    I decided on a simple roasted chicken. 5.5 lb roaster.
    Salted and peppered inside, generous sprinkle of Ozark seasoning, stuffed
    with lots of garlic, an onion,

    Chicken at Sheryl's, brisket at Margaret's, I should have dropped in to both
    places. Glad things went will in spite of the electric.

    And you would have been welcome!

  19. Margaret Suran said:

    I never claimed to be a good cook. As a matter of fact, when TJ and I
    first emailed each other, she asked me: "Margaret, tell me, what are
    you doing in rfc?" I still have no credible answer, but after all these
    years, I still cherish her question. :o)

    You may not consider yourself a good cook, but by all accounts you are a
    wonderful hostess, and that's much more important!

    gloria p


  20. Quoted message said:

    Edwin Pawlowski at [email hidden] wrote on 4/24/05 10:56 AM:

    Quoted message said:

    "Sheryl Rosen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I cleaned and prepped all day, put the chicken in at 4:30.
    Guests were due to arrive between 6-6:30-ish.

    I decided on a simple roasted chicken. 5.5 lb roaster.
    Salted and peppered inside, generous sprinkle of Ozark seasoning, stuffed
    with lots of garlic, an onion,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Chicken at Sheryl's, brisket at Margaret's, I should have dropped in to both
    places. Glad things went will in spite of the electric.

    Quoted message said:

    And you would have been welcome!

    In my home, too As a matter of fact, there was a special goblet of
    wine waiting for you. Or was it for Elijah, the Prophet? Whatever,
    you would have been an honored guest at my Seder Table.

    Next Year In Margaret's Home.......Or is it New Year In Jerusalem?

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