New way to increase seat in hopping height

Just to specify there are three main types of hops. Seat in sidehop;
seat out sidehop; and rolling hop (almost always seat in, some people
have experimented with seat out rolling hops in the past but not very
much). In your post you said seat in (generally means seat in sidehop),
but it sounded like you were talking about rolling, I could be wrong
though. I've been confused other times in the past when reading your
posts because of this.

You'll have to be more clear, its really confusing what you are trying
to say. I imagine you jumping off your uni then swinging it back up
under you as you're about to land. Oh wait, I understand now, the
jumping off thing was in preparation like warming up. Okay I guess if it
works it works.

And lastly you said no one has broken down the process for seat in
(again assuming rolling), do a search on Dan Heatons Rolling hop or
something like that. Someone broke down some viddy of one of his hops
from U2 frame by frame. I know its in John Childs gallery and probably a
few other places. Rollling hop technique has also been discussed before,
in other places.

David

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I'm sorry I didn't clarify, I meant Rolling hops. And yes you actually
just jump off the unicycle. no landing back onto it.

Also ive seen the frame by frame steps with dan heaton and others, and
don't get me wrong very informitive, but what i meant when I said no one
has broken down seat in hops, its like when you first try one you are
trying to juggle four or five diffrent actions all at once, and the more
precise, these actions are, at the correct timings the higher your hop
is. I like the ability to practice actions individualy, then put them
together after you've felt you've mastered each step. As far as I know,
no one has taught Rolling hops in that way. Its always been do all these
things all at once, and hope for the best, when most peole just get into
the air and kinda freeze getting very low hops.

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ohhh, so you are talking about rolling hops? disregard my first post
then (:
I think the most important thing to think about while rolling hopping is
to fold yourself in half. bring the tire up, and fold your torso down.
then when you land on the obstacle, try to ride away quickly without
waiting, so you won't lose your balance.

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Cyberpunk, i disagree with your method of practice, and think that it is
counterproductive to improving rolling hops. A rolling hops is very
different from a SIF sidehop (SIF). A SIF hop can be seperated into two
very distinct forms, a jump/prehop, and a tuck. You can get decent
height with just the jump/prehop, or just with the tuck. They both have
their places, and when combined you can get max height. This also means
you can focus on one more than the other, without hurting the hop. The
same is not true for rolling hops.

A rolling hop is far more fluid and combined than a sidehop. It very
smoothly transitions from vertical pedals tire mashing right into a
pike. You cannot do a pike without the initial vertical pedal
spring/leanback/tire mashing, and you cannot do an initial jump without
doing a pike. They just naturally lead to eachother. What you have done
is seperated them, which, in my opinion, is absolutely wrong. Part of
the initial jump is the pull up on the seat, a factor in why rolling
hops can kill seats, even on a light uni. Secondly, in order to jump
clear of the uni without letting hte uni leave the ground, you are doing
the anti-pike, without improving any technique there. On top of that,
jumping clear of the uni means you are jumping with your weight far more
forward than it should be for a large rolling hop. Rather than wasting
your time throwing yourself off the uni, just practice rolling hops on a
slowly slanted ledge until you're satisfied. My method has many
advantages: Your technique will actually improve with the practice, you
will learn to time your rolling hops better, and anyone watching will be
impressed rather than thinking you can't ride.

Darchibald, Seat out rolling hops are finding their place among some
riders. Zack and Ryan have developed them to be getting around 34-37",
last I checked. I use them for some stuff, generally just to make a line
smoother. I can do a SIF rolling hop around 28-30".

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