wheat versus spelt

Yibbels said:

Hi all,

Eating wheat products, I am told, slows down the metabolism and
results in weight gain, same as refined sugar.

But what about spelt?

Yib

Eating refined carbs like white flour increases the blood glucose
concentrations. The more refined the carb and the more carbs consumed,
the higher the blood glucose spike. In reaction, the pancreas produces
insulin which triggers the entire system to convert as much of it to
fat as possible. It continues to produce insulin until the blood
glucose levels level off to normal.

Describing this as "slowing down the metabolism and resulting in weight
gain" is not very accurate.

TC

Spelt doesn't cause blood agglutination on Blood Type O people. Wheat does.
Spelt has only a small percentage of the gluten that wheat does.

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Hi all,

Eating wheat products, I am told, slows down the metabolism and
results in weight gain, same as refined sugar.

But what about spelt?

Yib

Hi Pizza Girl,

I'm presently learning about blood type diets. It sounds to me like
gluten is a bad idea for all four types. However I was also told
by a chef that gluten is really two chemicals Gliadin and Glutenin, and
that spelt and kamut have less of the gliadin. Wheat and rye
also have pentosan. I'm interested in finding out more about the
chemistry of all this. It's fascinating stuff but also important for
maintaining good health.

Thanks,
Yib

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I'm presently learning about blood type diets.

http://www.veg.ca/issues/blood-type.html

If blood-type diets are the norm in Nature, why don't we see the
bizarrely-different diets recommended practiced by other species that have
differing blood types?

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It sounds to me like gluten is a bad idea ...

http://www.ecologos.org/ttdd.html#o

Laurie

Laurie said:

If blood-type diets are the norm in Nature, why don't we see the
bizarrely-different diets recommended practiced by other species that

have

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differing blood types?

Are you asking a question or making a statement?

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If blood-type diets are the norm in Nature, why don't we see the
bizarrely-different diets recommended practiced by other species that have
differing blood types?

D'Adamo did not have a single solid proof for his claims and his evolution
based explanation makes no sense whatsoever- neither on a biochemical nor on
any other level. if blood type diets would work as they say they do we
would all be extinct by now.

MMu said:

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If blood-type diets are the norm in Nature, why don't we see the

Quoted message said:

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bizarrely-different diets recommended practiced by other species

that have

Quoted message said:

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differing blood types?

D'Adamo did not have a single solid proof for his claims and his

evolution

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based explanation makes no sense whatsoever- neither on a biochemical

nor on

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any other level. if blood type diets would work as they say they do

we

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would all be extinct by now.

1. D'Adamo notes that one of his sources is anthropology. I first
came across the importance of blood type myself when taking a
source in anthropology, long before I heard of this guy. It is
considered well proven that blood types predispose people to
certain diseases.

2. Humans can eat the wrong foods and still survive. He wasn't
saying that they die, just that their bodies are less efficient.

Yib

Yibbels wrote:
:: MMu wrote:
:::: If blood-type diets are the norm in Nature, why don't we see the
:::: bizarrely-different diets recommended practiced by other species
:::: that have differing blood types?
:::
::: D'Adamo did not have a single solid proof for his claims and his
::: evolution based explanation makes no sense whatsoever- neither on a
::: biochemical nor on any other level. if blood type diets would work
::: as they say they do we would all be extinct by now.
::
:: 1. D'Adamo notes that one of his sources is anthropology. I first
:: came across the importance of blood type myself when taking a
:: source in anthropology, long before I heard of this guy. It is
:: considered well proven that blood types predispose people to
:: certain diseases.
::
:: 2. Humans can eat the wrong foods and still survive. He wasn't
:: saying that they die, just that their bodies are less efficient.

It is true that blood groups predispose to certain diseases but D'Adamo is
illogical. Let's take blood group O. Blood group O has a higher risk of
duodenal ulcers. According to D'Adamo blood group O people should prefer
meat to vegetables, legumes and cereal, which is is ill-advised as dietary
fiber prevents duodenal ulcers:

"Dietary fibre might have a role in preventing formation or recurrence of DU
[duodenal ulcers]. Fibre types (soluble or insoluble) and sources (fruit,
vegetables, legumes, or cereal) affect risk of DU to varying degrees. Foods
high in soluble fibre, such as oranges, carrots, and beans, seem to be more
effective in reducing risk of DU. Data on the effect of diet and lifestyle
on risk of DU are sparse, particularly regarding women, and more research is
needed. Vitamin A might also have a protective effect against DU. Other
dietary and lifestyle factors have a limited effect on risk of DU, but
quitting smoking might help with ulcer healing and preventing ulcer
recurrence. Dietary advice for patients with DU should emphasize increased
fibre and adequate consumption of, for example, green leafy vegetables.
Patients who smoke should quit."

http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2004/Ma­y/vol50-may-cme-2_fr.asp

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en­trez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d­b=pubmed&...

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Juhana

Where do you get your supposed D'adamo information from? I have not seen
most of what you said in his books or website.

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It is true that blood groups predispose to certain diseases but D'Adamo is
illogical. Let's take blood group O. Blood group O has a higher risk of
duodenal ulcers. According to D'Adamo blood group O people should prefer
meat to vegetables, legumes and cereal, which is is ill-advised as dietary
fiber prevents duodenal ulcers:

"Dietary fibre might have a role in preventing formation or recurrence of

DU

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[duodenal ulcers]. Fibre types (soluble or insoluble) and sources (fruit,
vegetables, legumes, or cereal) affect risk of DU to varying degrees.

Foods

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high in soluble fibre, such as oranges, carrots, and beans, seem to be

more

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effective in reducing risk of DU. Data on the effect of diet and lifestyle
on risk of DU are sparse, particularly regarding women, and more research

is

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needed. Vitamin A might also have a protective effect against DU. Other
dietary and lifestyle factors have a limited effect on risk of DU, but
quitting smoking might help with ulcer healing and preventing ulcer
recurrence. Dietary advice for patients with DU should emphasize increased
fibre and adequate consumption of, for example, green leafy vegetables.
Patients who smoke should quit."

http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2004/Ma-y/vol50-may-cme-2_fr.asp

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en-trez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d-b=pubmed&...

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Juhana

Pizza Girl wrote:
:: Where do you get your supposed D'adamo information from? I have not
:: seen most of what you said in his books or website.

Well, I have. I have read both his book and his website pages. Personally my
blood group is O and so I have been paying attention what he says about my
blood group. According to D'Adamo most grains and legumes contain lectins
which are not good for blood group O. He also states that as ancient
warriors blood group O people digest meat easily. This clearly leads to a
diet which increases the risk of duodenal ulcers. This is just one example
of his ill-adviced regime.

:: "Juhana Harju" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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::: It is true that blood groups predispose to certain diseases but
::: D'Adamo is illogical. Let's take blood group O. Blood group O has a
::: higher risk of duodenal ulcers. According to D'Adamo blood group O
::: people should prefer meat to vegetables, legumes and cereal, which
::: is is ill-advised as dietary fiber prevents duodenal ulcers:
:::
::: "Dietary fibre might have a role in preventing formation or
::: recurrence of DU [duodenal ulcers]. Fibre types (soluble or
::: insoluble) and sources (fruit, vegetables, legumes, or cereal)
::: affect risk of DU to varying degrees. Foods high in soluble fibre,
::: such as oranges, carrots, and beans, seem to be more effective in
::: reducing risk of DU. Data on the effect of diet and lifestyle on
::: risk of DU are sparse, particularly regarding women, and more
::: research is needed. Vitamin A might also have a protective effect
::: against DU. Other dietary and lifestyle factors have a limited
::: effect on risk of DU, but quitting smoking might help with ulcer
::: healing and preventing ulcer recurrence. Dietary advice for
::: patients with DU should emphasize increased fibre and adequate
::: consumption of, for example, green leafy vegetables. Patients who
::: smoke should quit."
:::
::: http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2004/Ma-y/vol50-may-cme-2_fr.asp
:::
:::
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en-trez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&d-b=pubmed&...
:::
::: --
::: Juhana

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Juhana

Juhana Harju said:

He also states that as ancient
warriors blood group O people digest meat easily.

The book I have, which is an audio book, doesn't refer to
O as 'warriors'. That would be nonsensical anyway. The point
they make is that O evolved earlier, during the time when
humans were mostly hunting, or eating the remainder of
animals killed by other predators. Therefore the had to
digest meat better, even raw meat.

Yib

Yibbels wrote:
:: Juhana Harju wrote:
::: He also states that as ancient
::: warriors blood group O people digest meat easily.
::
:: The book I have, which is an audio book, doesn't refer to
:: O as 'warriors'. That would be nonsensical anyway. The point
:: they make is that O evolved earlier, during the time when
:: humans were mostly hunting, or eating the remainder of
:: animals killed by other predators. Therefore the had to
:: digest meat better, even raw meat.

I notice my mistake just after posting. I ment to say 'hunters'. Still what
I said about D'Adamo's ill-adviced regimen remains.

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Juhana

I learned my blood type today and I can tell you,
all of the foods in the 'frequent' list are ones that
I love, like soy, and all the ones in the 'to avoid' column
like beef and milk are ones I couldn't care less about.
It's uncanny.

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Laurie said:

If blood-type diets are the norm in Nature, why don't we see the
bizarrely-different diets recommended practiced by other species that

have differing blood types?
Are you asking a question or making a statement?

That little curly thing, "?", at the end of a sentence is called a
"question mark", does that help?? Yikes, there are a couple more.

Laurie

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Stop bottom trolling here.

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Yibbels wrote:
:: Juhana Harju wrote:
::: He also states that as ancient
::: warriors blood group O people digest meat easily.
::
:: The book I have, which is an audio book, doesn't refer to
:: O as 'warriors'. That would be nonsensical anyway. The point
:: they make is that O evolved earlier, during the time when
:: humans were mostly hunting, or eating the remainder of
:: animals killed by other predators. Therefore the had to
:: digest meat better, even raw meat.

I notice my mistake just after posting. I ment to say 'hunters'. Still

what

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I said about D'Adamo's ill-adviced regimen remains.

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Juhana

You seem very lowly.