Protein

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sanbar said:

I'm trying to drop a couple of pounds while maitaining muscle size.
Currently, I'm lifting strenuously 3-4 times a week with good results. I'm
looking to drop about 10 pounds, but want to keep the size in the arms,
chest etc.

I'm considering going on an essentially all protein supplement diet in hopes
of keeping calories low and muscle high. I'm looking for any alternative
suggestions or someone who has achieved this with a different formula.

Suggestions appreciated.

You will die of boredom... ;-)

A plain low carb diet with protein from natural meat, egg and dairy
sources will do you just fine. Just get all of your carbs from fresh
green veggies such as leafy greens, brocolli, cauliflower, summer
squash, string beans...... you get the idea.

Get a set of food tables and keep your carbs below 50 grams per day.

The veggies will keep you from getting constipated.

I've lost 30 lbs. in the past 3 months doing this, with no loss of
strength or muscle as far as I can tell.

Powder supplements are ok if you are in a hurry, but they are not
necessary. Probably more efficient price-wise gram for gram of protein,
but I really prefer to "eat" my food.

Good luck! There are a million and one ways to prepare eggs and chicken!

If you are really good about totally avoiding starchy carbs and sugar,
fat is not as much of an issue except for total calorie count. No matter
what diet you choose to follow, calories still count!!!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sanbar said:

I'm trying to drop a couple of pounds while maitaining muscle size.
Currently, I'm lifting strenuously 3-4 times a week with good
results. I'm looking to drop about 10 pounds, but want to keep the
size in the arms, chest etc.

I'm considering going on an essentially all protein supplement diet
in hopes of keeping calories low and muscle high. I'm looking for
any alternative suggestions or someone who has achieved this with a
different formula.

Suggestions appreciated.

You will die of boredom... ;-)

A plain low carb diet with protein from natural meat, egg and dairy
sources will do you just fine. Just get all of your carbs from fresh
green veggies such as leafy greens, brocolli, cauliflower, summer
squash, string beans...... you get the idea.

Get a set of food tables and keep your carbs below 50 grams per day.

The veggies will keep you from getting constipated.

I've lost 30 lbs. in the past 3 months doing this, with no loss of
strength or muscle as far as I can tell.

Powder supplements are ok if you are in a hurry, but they are not
necessary. Probably more efficient price-wise gram for gram of
protein, but I really prefer to "eat" my food.

Good luck! There are a million and one ways to prepare eggs and
chicken!

If you are really good about totally avoiding starchy carbs and sugar,
fat is not as much of an issue except for total calorie count. No
matter what diet you choose to follow, calories still count!!!

Turkey rules. I cook one on the weekend, then eat off it all week. Tastier
than chicken if cooked properly. Use a meat thermometer and take it out
when it hits 170F. That's the key...170, and it's moist and very tasty.
--
-Larry

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sanbar said:

I'm trying to drop a couple of pounds while maitaining muscle size.
Currently, I'm lifting strenuously 3-4 times a week with good results. I'm
looking to drop about 10 pounds, but want to keep the size in the arms,
chest etc.

I'm considering going on an essentially all protein supplement diet in hopes
of keeping calories low and muscle high. I'm looking for any alternative
suggestions or someone who has achieved this with a different formula.

Suggestions appreciated.

www.burnthefat.com

Ignore the circus-sideshow hype, buy the book, read it,
and you'll know exactly how to do what you're asking about,
in more detail than you can now imagine.

Quoted message said:

You will die of boredom... ;-)

A plain low carb diet with protein from natural meat, egg and dairy
sources will do you just fine. Just get all of your carbs from fresh
green veggies such as leafy greens, brocolli, cauliflower, summer
squash, string beans...... you get the idea.

Get a set of food tables and keep your carbs below 50 grams per day.

The veggies will keep you from getting constipated.

I've lost 30 lbs. in the past 3 months doing this, with no loss of
strength or muscle as far as I can tell.

And how can you tell? Some sort of objective bodyfat
measurement is the only way to get close, and short of
a full-body MRI there's no objective bodyfat measurement
that's as accurate as your subjective statement just now
purported to be.

Quoted message said:

Powder supplements are ok if you are in a hurry, but they are not
necessary. Probably more efficient price-wise gram for gram of protein,
but I really prefer to "eat" my food.

When you're eating 5 to 6 meals a day, 1 or 2 protein
shakes are a blessing. Though eating real food will
actually help you lose weight faster at the same calorie
and protein intake.

Quoted message said:

Good luck! There are a million and one ways to prepare eggs and chicken!

If you are really good about totally avoiding starchy carbs and sugar,
fat is not as much of an issue except for total calorie count. No matter
what diet you choose to follow, calories still count!!!

You don't need to go low-carb unless nothing else is
actually working. The last 25 lbs I've dropped were at
a targeted 45/40/15 ratio of carb/protein/fat calories.
Keeping a 300-800 calorie deficit will cause you to lose
weight safely, and working out to keep your muscles highly
active will keep more of that weight from being muscle.

--Blair
"Heaven and Earth, Horatio."

"Larry Hodges" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Turkey rules. I cook one on the weekend, then eat off it all week.
Tastier than chicken if cooked properly. Use a meat thermometer and take
it out when it hits 170F. That's the key...170, and it's moist and very
tasty.

Want some tasty turkey?

Try stuffing it with oranges with a lemon or two.

Very tasty and moist.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Larry Hodges said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sanbar said:

I'm trying to drop a couple of pounds while maitaining muscle size.
Currently, I'm lifting strenuously 3-4 times a week with good
results. I'm looking to drop about 10 pounds, but want to keep the
size in the arms, chest etc.

I'm considering going on an essentially all protein supplement diet
in hopes of keeping calories low and muscle high. I'm looking for
any alternative suggestions or someone who has achieved this with a
different formula.

Suggestions appreciated.

You will die of boredom... ;-)

A plain low carb diet with protein from natural meat, egg and dairy
sources will do you just fine. Just get all of your carbs from fresh
green veggies such as leafy greens, brocolli, cauliflower, summer
squash, string beans...... you get the idea.

Get a set of food tables and keep your carbs below 50 grams per day.

The veggies will keep you from getting constipated.

I've lost 30 lbs. in the past 3 months doing this, with no loss of
strength or muscle as far as I can tell.

Powder supplements are ok if you are in a hurry, but they are not
necessary. Probably more efficient price-wise gram for gram of
protein, but I really prefer to "eat" my food.

Good luck! There are a million and one ways to prepare eggs and
chicken!

If you are really good about totally avoiding starchy carbs and sugar,
fat is not as much of an issue except for total calorie count. No
matter what diet you choose to follow, calories still count!!!

Turkey rules. I cook one on the weekend, then eat off it all week. Tastier
than chicken if cooked properly. Use a meat thermometer and take it out
when it hits 170F. That's the key...170, and it's moist and very tasty.

Yum! I agree... but I don't generally cook a whole bird since there are
just two of us. When turkey is cheap around the holidays, (79 cents per
lb. or less), I'll get 2 or 3 of them and "part" them out, then use a
Tilia food saver to seal them up and re-freeze. I'll roast, braise or
broil turkey legs, wings and/or thighs and use the breast meat either
sliced and grilled in the foreman, or diced up for stir fry.

Stir fry's are a WONDERFUL way to keep the carbs down and keep life
interesting. I'll use different meats and veggies in them, along with
scrambled eggs. Different sauces give added flavor.

A must for stir fry's is a combination of fresh grated ginger and garlic
or garlic powder. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Lee Michaels said:

"Larry Hodges" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Turkey rules. I cook one on the weekend, then eat off it all week.
Tastier than chicken if cooked properly. Use a meat thermometer and
take it out when it hits 170F. That's the key...170, and it's moist
and very tasty.

Want some tasty turkey?

Try stuffing it with oranges with a lemon or two.

Very tasty and moist.

That sounds great...have to try that.
--
-Larry

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Larry Hodges said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Sanbar" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> I'm trying to drop a couple of pounds while maitaining muscle size.
> Currently, I'm lifting strenuously 3-4 times a week with good
> results. I'm looking to drop about 10 pounds, but want to keep the
> size in the arms, chest etc.
>
> I'm considering going on an essentially all protein supplement diet
> in hopes of keeping calories low and muscle high. I'm looking for
> any alternative suggestions or someone who has achieved this with a
> different formula.
>
> Suggestions appreciated.
>
>

You will die of boredom... ;-)

A plain low carb diet with protein from natural meat, egg and dairy
sources will do you just fine. Just get all of your carbs from fresh
green veggies such as leafy greens, brocolli, cauliflower, summer
squash, string beans...... you get the idea.

Get a set of food tables and keep your carbs below 50 grams per day.

The veggies will keep you from getting constipated.

I've lost 30 lbs. in the past 3 months doing this, with no loss of
strength or muscle as far as I can tell.

Powder supplements are ok if you are in a hurry, but they are not
necessary. Probably more efficient price-wise gram for gram of
protein, but I really prefer to "eat" my food.

Good luck! There are a million and one ways to prepare eggs and
chicken!

If you are really good about totally avoiding starchy carbs and
sugar, fat is not as much of an issue except for total calorie
count. No matter what diet you choose to follow, calories still
count!!!

Turkey rules. I cook one on the weekend, then eat off it all week.
Tastier than chicken if cooked properly. Use a meat thermometer and
take it out when it hits 170F. That's the key...170, and it's moist
and very tasty.

Yum! I agree... but I don't generally cook a whole bird since there
are just two of us. When turkey is cheap around the holidays, (79
cents per lb. or less), I'll get 2 or 3 of them and "part" them out,
then use a Tilia food saver to seal them up and re-freeze. I'll
roast, braise or broil turkey legs, wings and/or thighs and use the
breast meat either sliced and grilled in the foreman, or diced up for
stir fry.

I don't buy the entire bird either. I usually just get the breast.

Quoted message said:

Stir fry's are a WONDERFUL way to keep the carbs down and keep life
interesting. I'll use different meats and veggies in them, along with
scrambled eggs. Different sauces give added flavor.

A must for stir fry's is a combination of fresh grated ginger and
garlic or garlic powder. ;-)

I do stir frys almost every night. Great way to go.
--
-Larry

"Larry Hodges" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Larry Hodges said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article <[email hidden]>,
> "Sanbar" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to drop a couple of pounds while maitaining muscle size.
>> Currently, I'm lifting strenuously 3-4 times a week with good
>> results. I'm looking to drop about 10 pounds, but want to keep the
>> size in the arms, chest etc.
>>
>> I'm considering going on an essentially all protein supplement diet
>> in hopes of keeping calories low and muscle high. I'm looking for
>> any alternative suggestions or someone who has achieved this with a
>> different formula.
>>
>> Suggestions appreciated.
>>
>>
>
> You will die of boredom... ;-)
>
> A plain low carb diet with protein from natural meat, egg and dairy
> sources will do you just fine. Just get all of your carbs from fresh
> green veggies such as leafy greens, brocolli, cauliflower, summer
> squash, string beans...... you get the idea.
>
> Get a set of food tables and keep your carbs below 50 grams per day.
>
> The veggies will keep you from getting constipated.
>
> I've lost 30 lbs. in the past 3 months doing this, with no loss of
> strength or muscle as far as I can tell.
>
> Powder supplements are ok if you are in a hurry, but they are not
> necessary. Probably more efficient price-wise gram for gram of
> protein, but I really prefer to "eat" my food.
>
> Good luck! There are a million and one ways to prepare eggs and
> chicken!
>
> If you are really good about totally avoiding starchy carbs and
> sugar, fat is not as much of an issue except for total calorie
> count. No matter what diet you choose to follow, calories still
> count!!!

Turkey rules. I cook one on the weekend, then eat off it all week.
Tastier than chicken if cooked properly. Use a meat thermometer and
take it out when it hits 170F. That's the key...170, and it's moist
and very tasty.

Yum! I agree... but I don't generally cook a whole bird since there
are just two of us. When turkey is cheap around the holidays, (79
cents per lb. or less), I'll get 2 or 3 of them and "part" them out,
then use a Tilia food saver to seal them up and re-freeze. I'll
roast, braise or broil turkey legs, wings and/or thighs and use the
breast meat either sliced and grilled in the foreman, or diced up for
stir fry.

I don't buy the entire bird either. I usually just get the breast.

Quoted message said:

Stir fry's are a WONDERFUL way to keep the carbs down and keep life
interesting. I'll use different meats and veggies in them, along with
scrambled eggs. Different sauces give added flavor.

A must for stir fry's is a combination of fresh grated ginger and
garlic or garlic powder. ;-)

I do stir frys almost every night. Great way to go.

OK, recipe time:

2 lb chicken breasts, sliced up
1 lb broccoli matchsticks or stir-fry veg (comes washed and cut in a bag)
..25 c peanut butter
2 Tbsp chili paste with garlic (adjust to taste)
..25 c vinegar (rice, white wine, cider)
generous splash of soy sauce

Great nutritional profile, dead easy to prepare, tastes great. My only
problem is defending it from my kids, who will steal all my lunches if I'm
not careful.

Hugh

--
Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will attend no other.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Hugh Beyer said:

"Larry Hodges" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Larry Hodges" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>> In article <[email hidden]>,
>> "Sanbar" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to drop a couple of pounds while maitaining muscle size.
>>> Currently, I'm lifting strenuously 3-4 times a week with good
>>> results. I'm looking to drop about 10 pounds, but want to keep the
>>> size in the arms, chest etc.
>>>
>>> I'm considering going on an essentially all protein supplement diet
>>> in hopes of keeping calories low and muscle high. I'm looking for
>>> any alternative suggestions or someone who has achieved this with a
>>> different formula.
>>>
>>> Suggestions appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You will die of boredom... ;-)
>>
>> A plain low carb diet with protein from natural meat, egg and dairy
>> sources will do you just fine. Just get all of your carbs from fresh
>> green veggies such as leafy greens, brocolli, cauliflower, summer
>> squash, string beans...... you get the idea.
>>
>> Get a set of food tables and keep your carbs below 50 grams per day.
>>
>> The veggies will keep you from getting constipated.
>>
>> I've lost 30 lbs. in the past 3 months doing this, with no loss of
>> strength or muscle as far as I can tell.
>>
>> Powder supplements are ok if you are in a hurry, but they are not
>> necessary. Probably more efficient price-wise gram for gram of
>> protein, but I really prefer to "eat" my food.
>>
>> Good luck! There are a million and one ways to prepare eggs and
>> chicken!
>>
>> If you are really good about totally avoiding starchy carbs and
>> sugar, fat is not as much of an issue except for total calorie
>> count. No matter what diet you choose to follow, calories still
>> count!!!
>
> Turkey rules. I cook one on the weekend, then eat off it all week.
> Tastier than chicken if cooked properly. Use a meat thermometer and
> take it out when it hits 170F. That's the key...170, and it's moist
> and very tasty.

Yum! I agree... but I don't generally cook a whole bird since there
are just two of us. When turkey is cheap around the holidays, (79
cents per lb. or less), I'll get 2 or 3 of them and "part" them out,
then use a Tilia food saver to seal them up and re-freeze. I'll
roast, braise or broil turkey legs, wings and/or thighs and use the
breast meat either sliced and grilled in the foreman, or diced up for
stir fry.

I don't buy the entire bird either. I usually just get the breast.

Quoted message said:

Stir fry's are a WONDERFUL way to keep the carbs down and keep life
interesting. I'll use different meats and veggies in them, along with
scrambled eggs. Different sauces give added flavor.

A must for stir fry's is a combination of fresh grated ginger and
garlic or garlic powder. ;-)

I do stir frys almost every night. Great way to go.

OK, recipe time:

2 lb chicken breasts, sliced up
1 lb broccoli matchsticks or stir-fry veg (comes washed and cut in a bag)
.25 c peanut butter
2 Tbsp chili paste with garlic (adjust to taste)
.25 c vinegar (rice, white wine, cider)
generous splash of soy sauce

Great nutritional profile, dead easy to prepare, tastes great. My only
problem is defending it from my kids, who will steal all my lunches if I'm
not careful.

Hugh

<lol> Sounds healthy, so cook enough for them? 😉

The above recipe sounds wonderful!
The only thing I'd add is about 1 tsp. of garlic powder and about 1 tbs.
of fresh grated ginger... I don't actually measure either one of those,
I just add a few shakes from the garlic powder container and a break a
small to medium section off of a rhizome of fresh ginger and run it over
the fine cheese grater...
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Hugh Beyer said:

"Larry Hodges" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Larry Hodges" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>> In article <[email hidden]>,
>> "Sanbar" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to drop a couple of pounds while maitaining muscle
>>> size. Currently, I'm lifting strenuously 3-4 times a week with
>>> good results. I'm looking to drop about 10 pounds, but want to
>>> keep the size in the arms, chest etc.
>>>
>>> I'm considering going on an essentially all protein supplement
>>> diet in hopes of keeping calories low and muscle high. I'm
>>> looking for any alternative suggestions or someone who has
>>> achieved this with a different formula.
>>>
>>> Suggestions appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You will die of boredom... ;-)
>>
>> A plain low carb diet with protein from natural meat, egg and
>> dairy sources will do you just fine. Just get all of your carbs
>> from fresh green veggies such as leafy greens, brocolli,
>> cauliflower, summer squash, string beans...... you get the idea.
>>
>> Get a set of food tables and keep your carbs below 50 grams per
>> day.
>>
>> The veggies will keep you from getting constipated.
>>
>> I've lost 30 lbs. in the past 3 months doing this, with no loss of
>> strength or muscle as far as I can tell.
>>
>> Powder supplements are ok if you are in a hurry, but they are not
>> necessary. Probably more efficient price-wise gram for gram of
>> protein, but I really prefer to "eat" my food.
>>
>> Good luck! There are a million and one ways to prepare eggs and
>> chicken!
>>
>> If you are really good about totally avoiding starchy carbs and
>> sugar, fat is not as much of an issue except for total calorie
>> count. No matter what diet you choose to follow, calories still
>> count!!!
>
> Turkey rules. I cook one on the weekend, then eat off it all week.
> Tastier than chicken if cooked properly. Use a meat thermometer
> and take it out when it hits 170F. That's the key...170, and it's
> moist and very tasty.

Yum! I agree... but I don't generally cook a whole bird since there
are just two of us. When turkey is cheap around the holidays, (79
cents per lb. or less), I'll get 2 or 3 of them and "part" them out,
then use a Tilia food saver to seal them up and re-freeze. I'll
roast, braise or broil turkey legs, wings and/or thighs and use the
breast meat either sliced and grilled in the foreman, or diced up
for stir fry.

I don't buy the entire bird either. I usually just get the breast.

Quoted message said:

Stir fry's are a WONDERFUL way to keep the carbs down and keep life
interesting. I'll use different meats and veggies in them, along
with scrambled eggs. Different sauces give added flavor.

A must for stir fry's is a combination of fresh grated ginger and
garlic or garlic powder. ;-)

I do stir frys almost every night. Great way to go.

OK, recipe time:

2 lb chicken breasts, sliced up
1 lb broccoli matchsticks or stir-fry veg (comes washed and cut in a
bag) .25 c peanut butter
2 Tbsp chili paste with garlic (adjust to taste)
.25 c vinegar (rice, white wine, cider)
generous splash of soy sauce

Great nutritional profile, dead easy to prepare, tastes great. My only
problem is defending it from my kids, who will steal all my lunches
if I'm not careful.

Hugh

Sounds great. I'll have to try that too.
--
-Larry