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  1. The boss completed her first triathlon today, yeah for her! Not so yeah
    is that she found out the hard way what I told her when she bought her
    bike; that a machine with loads of suspension, tires widths comparable
    to those commonly found on jet airlines; does not a fast bike make. So
    this means that she wants another bike. Her fitness instructor's got an
    old OCR 2 that he wants rid of and it's the right size for her so she
    may get that.

    What is good is that now I can get another one too, seeing as she's
    currently got six wheels and I've only got two ;-)

    She also wants a trainer so she can crank out some k's while watching
    telly. I'm clueless about trainers, any pointers?
    --
    Cheers
    Euan

  2. Quoted message said:

    The boss completed her first triathlon today, yeah for her! Not so yeah
    is that she found out the hard way what I told her when she bought her
    bike; that a machine with loads of suspension, tires widths comparable
    to those commonly found on jet airlines; does not a fast bike make. So
    this means that she wants another bike. Her fitness instructor's got an
    old OCR 2 that he wants rid of and it's the right size for her so she
    may get that.

    What is good is that now I can get another one too, seeing as she's
    currently got six wheels and I've only got two ;-)

    She also wants a trainer so she can crank out some k's while watching
    telly. I'm clueless about trainers, any pointers?

    windtrainers are the cheapest, they're noisy, but they offer realistic
    road feel (they have exponential resistance)

    mag trainers are mid-price, some have rimdrives which are great for
    wearing out rims instead of the crappy old tyre you put on the crappy
    old wheel you use on the spinner 🙂. Mag trainers have adjustable
    resistance, which seems like a feature, but it's really there to
    overcome the bug - being that they don't increase resistance
    exponentially with speed. Mag trainers are a lot quieter than
    wind trainers.

    Fluid trainers are the best, exponential resistance and
    lower noise than wind trainers - they're also the most expensive -
    my fluid-2 cost me around $500 with a good discount from my
    LBS. They tend to have decent flywheels which smooth out the
    "road" better than the other types. They're also heavier which
    may be a factor if you're carrying it around a lot - I used to carry
    mine to club spinner sessions in winter on my back strapped to
    a backpack on the roady. Not much fun.

    Things to look for :
    The heaviest flywheel you can get - this
    makes a big difference to the feel of the trainer.

    A stable base that will work on uneven ground.

    Robust clamping arrangement - the clamp is under a lot of
    stress and if it's made cheap & nasty and you use it a lot, you'll
    soon be getting a new one after the bike falls out of it!

    Rim drives are only useful if you want to use the trainer with
    knobby tyres - you're much better off with an old wheel and old
    slick tyres anyway.

  3. [email hidden] wrote:
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    Quoted message said:


    She also wants a trainer so she can crank out some k's while watching
    telly. I'm clueless about trainers, any pointers?

    There is a lot of info on trainers in the NG archives but i'll add my
    $0.02 worth.

    I just got a Cycleops Fluid2, and it is much better then i thought,
    there are no levers or cables, resistance varies exponentially* as
    wheelspeed varies (see graph link below), it is easy to get the required
    workload at any particular cadence you require by using your gears. I
    have not tried a wind or magnetic trainer so cannot compare.

    See:
    http://www.cycleops.com/products/fluidsquared.htm#
    Power curve can be found at:
    http://www.cycleops.com/products/Fluid-Powercurve.gif

    * terminology subject to correction by maths-head.

    JH

  4. Carl Brewer said:

    mag trainers are mid-price, some have rimdrives which are great for
    wearing out rims instead of the crappy old tyre you put on the crappy
    old wheel you use on the spinner 🙂.

    If you're wearing out rims on a trainer you need to get out of the house
    more you wuss-bag, rain-o-phobe!

    Some people don't have spare wheels and lazy people don't like swapping
    wheels and replacing tyres when 'magging up'.

    Quoted message said:

    Mag trainers are a lot quieter than wind trainers.

    But still damn noisy! Don't have noise-sensitive neighbors when you
    crank up the stereo!

    Quoted message said:

    Rim drives are only useful if you want to use the trainer with
    knobby tyres - you're much better off with an old wheel and old
    slick tyres anyway.

    Meh. :P

    hippy

  5. On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:06:30 GMT, hippy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Carl Brewer said:

    mag trainers are mid-price, some have rimdrives which are great for
    wearing out rims instead of the crappy old tyre you put on the crappy
    old wheel you use on the spinner 🙂.

    If you're wearing out rims on a trainer you need to get out of the house
    more you wuss-bag, rain-o-phobe!

    You try doing 75s max efforts in rain at 8pm in winter, you summer
    fineweather riding crit specialist!

  6. Carl Brewer said:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:06:30 GMT, hippy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    If you're wearing out rims on a trainer you need to get out of the house
    more you wuss-bag, rain-o-phobe!

    You try doing 75s max efforts in rain at 8pm in winter, you summer
    fineweather riding crit specialist!

    75sec efforts aren't gonna wear out your rims, trainer boy! :P

    As for the "fairweather" bit - I'm no fairy-weather cyclist (Neil can
    vouch for that - damn right it was the coldest day of the year! Fark!).
    I simply choose not to enter 'races' requiring 2+ hours driving, just to
    get my [censored] handed to me by some 60kg stick bandit.

    hippy
    "Cursed hills.."

  7. On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 03:02:02 GMT, hippy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    75sec efforts aren't gonna wear out your rims, trainer boy! :P

    The 20 min warmup & cooldown will, and rimdrives can't cope
    with the SHEER POWER!

    Quoted message said:

    As for the "fairweather" bit - I'm no fairy-weather cyclist (Neil can
    vouch for that - damn right it was the coldest day of the year! Fark!).
    I simply choose not to enter 'races' requiring 2+ hours driving, just to
    get my [censored] handed to me by some 60kg stick bandit.

    Modella and Bayles aren't hilly, see :

    http://www.aboc.com.au/images/2004_lenny_hammond_cb3.jpg

  8. On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:11:39 +1000, Carl Brewer <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Modella and Bayles aren't hilly, see :

    http://www.aboc.com.au/images/2004_lenny_hammond_cb3.jpg

    Make that

    http://www.aboc.com.au/images/2004_lenny_hammond_cb3cub.jpg
    (with the brightness fixed!)

  9. Carl Brewer said:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 03:02:02 GMT, hippy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    75sec efforts aren't gonna wear out your rims, trainer boy! :P

    The 20 min warmup & cooldown will, and rimdrives can't cope
    with the SHEER POWER!

    Bah! Show me rim-wear figures! :P

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As for the "fairweather" bit - I'm no fairy-weather cyclist (Neil can
    vouch for that - damn right it was the coldest day of the year! Fark!).
    I simply choose not to enter 'races' requiring 2+ hours driving, just to
    get my [censored] handed to me by some 60kg stick bandit.

    Modella and Bayles aren't hilly, see :

    Yeah.. I know this.. now! When I come back I'll race 'em.
    Just think of all the wonderful base training I can get touring 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.aboc.com.au/images/2004_lenny_hammond_cb3.jpg

    Strike a pose! Nice "victory's in the bag, baby!" shake of the fist. 🙂

    hippy

  10. On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 03:23:26 GMT, hippy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Strike a pose! Nice "victory's in the bag, baby!" shake of the fist. 🙂

    That's what you learn at the last sprint skills session this April,
    victory salutes.

    We'll do "rock the baby", "shoot the arrow", "kiss this guy",
    "wave arms at sky with aimless vigour", "look at my jersey",
    "for you, dead fellah", "simply the best", "instant respect in
    the peloton", "the unobfuscated [censored]", "swerve at the
    photographers" and "molest the lubricated goat(tm)".

    And finally, the preemptive "oh [censored], I celebrated too early!" in
    memory of many of those who have.
    http://www.grahamwatson.com/news/images/Zabel1.jpg
    to see the master ...

    If we have time, we'll do the second place and soundly beaten
    tactically "bash the helmet against the headstem" and the
    "bounce the front wheel and curse"

  11. "Carl Brewer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 03:23:26 GMT, hippy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Strike a pose! Nice "victory's in the bag, baby!" shake of the fist. 🙂

    That's what you learn at the last sprint skills session this April,
    victory salutes.

    We'll do "rock the baby", "shoot the arrow", "kiss this guy",
    "wave arms at sky with aimless vigour", "look at my jersey",
    "for you, dead fellah", "simply the best", "instant respect in
    the peloton", "the unobfuscated [censored]", "swerve at the
    photographers" and "molest the lubricated goat(tm)".

    And finally, the preemptive "oh [censored], I celebrated too early!" in
    memory of many of those who have.
    http://www.grahamwatson.com/news/images/Zabel1.jpg
    to see the master ...

    If we have time, we'll do the second place and soundly beaten
    tactically "bash the helmet against the headstem" and the
    "bounce the front wheel and curse"


    I thought it looked like the end of a Lleyton inspired beating of the chest
    and "C'mon!!!!!!" (which I once did at an 80s trivia night when I got the
    lead singer of The Clash right)

    Ride On,

    Gags

  12. Gags said:

    I thought it looked like the end of a Lleyton inspired beating of the chest
    and "C'mon!!!!!!" (which I once did at an 80s trivia night when I got the
    lead singer of The Clash right)

    Ride On,

    Gags

    showin yer vintage there, big fella 😄

    spent amsterdam (the few lucid-ish moments lissenin to London callin on Vinyl 😄😄😄)

  13. Carl Brewer said:


    Modella and Bayles aren't hilly, see :

    http://www.aboc.com.au/images/2004_lenny_hammond_cb3.jpg

    sans-hilly courses?
    Sign-me-up-and-suck-my-dust!!! 😄

    Carl Brewer said:


    That's what you learn at the last sprint skills session this April,
    victory salutes.

    We'll do "rock the baby", "shoot the arrow", "kiss this guy",
    "wave arms at sky with aimless vigour", "look at my jersey",
    "for you, dead fellah", "simply the best", "instant respect in
    the peloton", "the unobfuscated [censored]", "swerve at the
    photographers" and "molest the lubricated goat(tm)".

    And finally, the preemptive "oh [censored], I celebrated too early!" in
    memory of many of those who have.
    grahamwatson.comZabel1.jpg
    to see the master ...

    hmmmm. take yer werd for it. one day...

    Carl Brewer said:


    If we have time, we'll do the second place and soundly beaten
    tactically "bash the helmet against the headstem" and the
    "bounce the front wheel and curse"

    hmmm. i think i know this one!
    altho mine is more the
    "how the feck does that last lap work???" 😄

    F"One day speed racer! I will get my revenge, I swear. bwahahahahhaahahahahah, err, um... aw [censored]!!!"Dutch

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