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Help Requested With Late-90's Record Brake Caliper

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  1. Hello and thanks in advance for any insight you can offer...

    I have what appears to be a late 90's Record dual pivot caliper (rear). If you
    look at the diagram shown at <http://www.campagnolo.com/pdf/spares99-B.pdf>
    (about mid way down the page) you will see an exploded view of this unit (BR-44RE).

    Please note the BR-RE104 bolt assembly which holds the caliper to the frame.
    This assembly contains an odd part that has a set screw in it. On my front
    caliper, a similar piece sits with the set screw in a true, vertical position.
    This piece has two flat sides which permits centering of the caliper using a
    13mm cone wrench.

    For some reason, this piece on my rear caliper is positioned so the set screw
    is not oriented vertically. Therefore, the flat sides are positioned so that I
    cannot place a cone wrench to center the caliper (the elements around the part
    BR-RE015 get in the way).

    So: Is it possible for me to change something that will permit the set screw to
    be oriented vertically on the rear as it is on the front? If so, what do I need
    to do?

    I tried loosening the set screw hoping that the unit might easily turn. But it
    did not. I have not tried to force it in any way.

    Thanks,

    David

  2. David White said:

    I have what appears to be a late 90's Record dual pivot caliper (rear).
    If you look at the diagram shown at
    <http://www.campagnolo.com/pdf/spares99-B.pdf> (about mid way down the
    page) you will see an exploded view of this unit (BR-44RE).

    Please note the BR-RE104 bolt assembly which holds the caliper to the
    frame. This assembly contains an odd part that has a set screw in it. On
    my front caliper, a similar piece sits with the set screw in a true,
    vertical position. This piece has two flat sides which permits centering
    of the caliper using a 13mm cone wrench.

    For some reason, this piece on my rear caliper is positioned so the set
    screw is not oriented vertically. Therefore, the flat sides are
    positioned so that I cannot place a cone wrench to center the caliper
    (the elements around the part BR-RE015 get in the way).

    So: Is it possible for me to change something that will permit the set
    screw to be oriented vertically on the rear as it is on the front? If
    so, what do I need to do?

    I tried loosening the set screw hoping that the unit might easily turn.
    But it did not. I have not tried to force it in any way.

    The "odd part" is a nut, specifically a lock nut. The bolt it fits on
    is a dual purpose, dual threaded bolt. In addition to holding the
    caliper to the frame/fork, this bolt is also the pivot for the "Y" arm
    of the caliper. Turning this bolt adjusts the bearings of the "Y" arm,
    and the locknut gets tightened snugly against the body (BR-RE015) to
    secure the bearing adjustment. The sestscrew is an additional locking
    measure to secure this critical adjustment.

    You should not be using a cone wrench to adjust the centering of a
    dual-pivot brake caliper.

    My preferred approach is to loosen up the Allen mounting nut that holds
    it to the frame, squeeze and hold the brake lever to engage the brake
    with the rim, then tighten the Allen nut while holding the brake engaged.

    In most cases this will result in correct centering of the caliper.

    If you need to make a minor tweak to the centering after that, this is
    the purpose of the small setscrew labeled BR-RE018

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  3. David White said:

    Hello and thanks in advance for any insight you can offer...

    I have what appears to be a late 90's Record dual pivot caliper (rear).
    If you look at the diagram shown at
    <http://www.campagnolo.com/pdf/spares99-B.pdf> (about mid way down the
    page) you will see an exploded view of this unit (BR-44RE).

    Please note the BR-RE104 bolt assembly which holds the caliper to the
    frame. This assembly contains an odd part that has a set screw in it. On
    my front caliper, a similar piece sits with the set screw in a true,
    vertical position. This piece has two flat sides which permits centering
    of the caliper using a 13mm cone wrench.

    For some reason, this piece on my rear caliper is positioned so the set
    screw is not oriented vertically. Therefore, the flat sides are
    positioned so that I cannot place a cone wrench to center the caliper
    (the elements around the part BR-RE015 get in the way).

    So: Is it possible for me to change something that will permit the set
    screw to be oriented vertically on the rear as it is on the front? If
    so, what do I need to do?

    I tried loosening the set screw hoping that the unit might easily turn.
    But it did not. I have not tried to force it in any way.

    Thanks,

    David

    This is not technically the way to center a dual pivot brake. Use the
    small allen head on the side of the caliper. One is for centering, one
    is to increase spring tension.
    As for centering, the easiest thing to do is just push the caliper to
    center by hand.

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