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  1. As you may have noticed, I don't post much in this newsgroup, as a matter of
    fact, I've only ever posted here maybe once or twice before. I have
    however, been an avid reader for quite some time who simply browses the
    postings to see if there is anything interesting here.

    What seems to be the most interesting aspect of this newsgroup is it's
    relationship to this "Mike Vanderman" individual.

    The first thing I notice is that fact that Mike seems to be barking up the
    wrong tree by harassing everyone in this newsgroup. If Mike was so
    interested in forwarding his cause, why does he spend so much time on the
    internet harassing mountain bikers and trying to start mud-slinging matches
    in this newsgroup? Surely Greenpeace would not be where it is if they
    relied on Mike's tactics for spreading their cause. I don't see any
    Greenpeace activists in alt.seal-clubbing posting unsupported theories as to
    why cute baby seals should not be killed for their pelts.

    Secondly, why can't Mike simply prove us all wrong? With the amount of
    passion that he puts into his mission, you would think that he would have
    some sort of irrefutable evidence to silence all mountain bikers. Instead,
    he returns time and time again to annoy a bunch of guys that want to talk
    about biking, and then when he gain a retaliation, he posts it again as some
    sort of "upper hand" in his negotiations. In fact, it would seem that he is
    using the "rebellious" and "aggressive" nature of mountain bikers to prove a
    point. The only point he is proving is not that he is right, but that
    mountain bikers, when provoked, cuss a lot. That proves nothing.

    Do you think that the anti-smoking movement would have gotten nearly as far
    as it did by harassing smokers to the point of vulgar language and then
    throwing it back at them to discredit their image?

    Mike, if your evidence is so convincing, why doesn't it "prove itself", much
    the same as the risk of cancer from smoking does? Why do you feel that it's
    your duty to waste valuable time posting futile pleas in a small newsgroup.
    Are you so disillusioned that you think you might actually make a difference
    here?

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that Mike may have a noble cause, but his
    methods for spreading his ideas are fatally flawed. The fact that he
    doesn't understand this discredits his own validity.

    Mike, why aren't you using your time wisely?

    Chris Garstin
    Waterloo, ON

  2. "Alpha Male" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Mike, why aren't you using your time wisely?

    Oh, the irony . . .

  3. "Alpha Male" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    As you may have noticed, I don't post much in this newsgroup, as a matter
    of fact, I've only ever posted here maybe once or twice before. I have
    however, been an avid reader for quite some time who simply browses the
    postings to see if there is anything interesting here.

    What seems to be the most interesting aspect of this newsgroup is it's
    relationship to this "Mike Vanderman" individual.

    The first thing I notice is that fact that Mike seems to be barking up the
    wrong tree by harassing everyone in this newsgroup. If Mike was so
    interested in forwarding his cause, why does he spend so much time on the
    internet harassing mountain bikers and trying to start mud-slinging
    matches in this newsgroup? Surely Greenpeace would not be where it is if
    they relied on Mike's tactics for spreading their cause. I don't see any
    Greenpeace activists in alt.seal-clubbing posting unsupported theories as
    to why cute baby seals should not be killed for their pelts.

    Secondly, why can't Mike simply prove us all wrong? With the amount of
    passion that he puts into his mission, you would think that he would have
    some sort of irrefutable evidence to silence all mountain bikers.
    Instead, he returns time and time again to annoy a bunch of guys that want
    to talk about biking, and then when he gain a retaliation, he posts it
    again as some sort of "upper hand" in his negotiations. In fact, it would
    seem that he is using the "rebellious" and "aggressive" nature of mountain
    bikers to prove a point. The only point he is proving is not that he is
    right, but that mountain bikers, when provoked, cuss a lot. That proves
    nothing.

    Do you think that the anti-smoking movement would have gotten nearly as
    far as it did by harassing smokers to the point of vulgar language and
    then throwing it back at them to discredit their image?

    Mike, if your evidence is so convincing, why doesn't it "prove itself",
    much the same as the risk of cancer from smoking does? Why do you feel
    that it's your duty to waste valuable time posting futile pleas in a small
    newsgroup. Are you so disillusioned that you think you might actually make
    a difference here?

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that Mike may have a noble cause, but
    his methods for spreading his ideas are fatally flawed. The fact that he
    doesn't understand this discredits his own validity.

    Mike, why aren't you using your time wisely?

    Chris Garstin
    Waterloo, ON


    An answer to all your questions, he's an [censored] who can't adjust to
    society.

  4. Quoted message said:

    An answer to all your questions, he's an [censored] who can't adjust to
    society.


    An [censored] has been proven to be very functional in daily life, unlike Mike.

  5. "Mtnbiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    An answer to all your questions, he's an [censored] who can't adjust to
    society.


    An [censored] has been proven to be very functional in daily life, unlike
    Mike.

    You got me there, can't argue the point

  6. Sorry, obviously I touched a nerve. Didn't expect such hostility. Yikes.

    "Chris Phillipo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    As you may have noticed, I don't post much in this newsgroup, as a matter
    of
    fact, I've only ever posted here maybe once or twice before. I have
    however, been an avid reader for quite some time who simply browses the
    postings to see if there is anything interesting here.

    No, I hadn't noticed.

    Quoted message said:

    What seems to be the most interesting aspect of this newsgroup is it's
    relationship to this "Mike Vanderman" individual.

    Those of us that know how to use kill files are only reminded of this by
    posts such as yours.

    <recap of statments that have been made here ad nauseum, snipped>

    --
    _________________________
    Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
    http://www.ramsays-online.com

  7. Oh, and no, I don't use kill files. What are they?

    "Chris Phillipo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    As you may have noticed, I don't post much in this newsgroup, as a matter
    of
    fact, I've only ever posted here maybe once or twice before. I have
    however, been an avid reader for quite some time who simply browses the
    postings to see if there is anything interesting here.

    No, I hadn't noticed.

    Quoted message said:

    What seems to be the most interesting aspect of this newsgroup is it's
    relationship to this "Mike Vanderman" individual.

    Those of us that know how to use kill files are only reminded of this by
    posts such as yours.

    <recap of statments that have been made here ad nauseum, snipped>

    --
    _________________________
    Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
    http://www.ramsays-online.com

  8. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:21:26 -0500, "Alpha Male" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    .Oh, and no, I don't use kill files. What are they?

    A tool for wimps that can't stand to see anyone disagree with them.


    That must make you a wimp since you've said many times that you've added
    people to your "idiot filter".

  9. On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:28:25 -0700, "Chris Glidden" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    ..
    .."Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ..news:[email hidden]...
    ..> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:21:26 -0500, "Alpha Male" <[email hidden]>
    ..> wrote:
    ..>
    ..> .Oh, and no, I don't use kill files. What are they?
    ..>
    ..> A tool for wimps that can't stand to see anyone disagree with them.
    ..>
    ..That must make you a wimp since you've said many times that you've added
    ..people to your "idiot filter".

    That's just to identify them as senders of unsolicited email. DUH!
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    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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