Pedal question

"Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Is there a decent pedal that I could get that's both clipless and platform
or should I just go for the clipless pedals and get used to them. I like

the

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idea of not having to change my shoes every single time I want to jump on
the bike but I'd like to have a quality pedal also for the long rides. If
having one of those combo pedals is going to make a lousy clipless pedal
than I have a decision to make. The bike is a cyclocross (Bianchi Axis)

that

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I'll be picking up soon. Appreciate any advice.
Ray

I've used this one for the past year. I also want the convenience of being
able to hop on the bike with regular shoes for short trips around the
neighborhood.

http://www.touringcyclist.com/gear/model_8283.html

Shimano makes a platform/clipless. It used to be the SHS 535 (I think)

Ray said:

Is there a decent pedal that I could get that's both clipless and platform
or should I just go for the clipless pedals and get used to them. I like the
idea of not having to change my shoes every single time I want to jump on
the bike but I'd like to have a quality pedal also for the long rides. If
having one of those combo pedals is going to make a lousy clipless pedal
than I have a decision to make.

Lots of options. Both Spd and Eggbeater come in combo versions. I'd use
them, too, on my commuter, but it'd have to be Frog/platform which does
not exist. These will not be real cheap.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | Deserves death! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve
_`\(,_ | death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to
(_)/ (_) | them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.
-- J. R. R. Tolkein

Ray said:

Is there a decent pedal that I could get that's both clipless and platform
or should I just go for the clipless pedals and get used to them. I like the
idea of not having to change my shoes every single time I want to jump on
the bike but I'd like to have a quality pedal also for the long rides. If
having one of those combo pedals is going to make a lousy clipless pedal
than I have a decision to make. The bike is a cyclocross (Bianchi Axis) that
I'll be picking up soon. Appreciate any advice.

The Shimano PD-M324 [1] (and its predecessor, the PD-M323) are platform
on one side and SPuD (M/SH-55 and S/SH-51 cleats) on the other. They
typically (6 for 6 with my pedals) hang with the platform side forward
and about 15 degrees from vertical (like "/" if the front of the bike is
to the left), which makes entry into the SPuD side easy on a recumbent
but generally requires flipping the pedal on an upright.

[1]
<http://bike.shimano.com/catalog/cycle/products/component.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441763012&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302033078&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181202&bmUID=1111724077551>.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth (Downstate Illinois, North of Forgottonia)

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:23:06 GMT, "Beverly" <[email hidden]>

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Quoted message said:

I've used this one for the past year. I also want the convenience of being
able to hop on the bike with regular shoes for short trips around the
neighborhood.

http://www.touringcyclist.com/gear/model_8283.html

Yes, my first pair of clipless pedals were the Shimano PD-M324 which
is just what the OP is talking about. I still have them on my older
bike.
When learning to use clipless, it is nice not having to clip in at
busy intersections or other situations where you would be better off
not focusing on the pedals.
They are adjustable and can be set to be very easy to get in and out
of.
Highly recommended!

Life is Good!
Jeff

Ray said:

Is there a decent pedal that I could get that's both clipless and

platform

Quoted message said:

or should I just go for the clipless pedals and get used to them. I

like the

Quoted message said:

idea of not having to change my shoes every single time I want to

jump on

Quoted message said:

the bike but I'd like to have a quality pedal also for the long

rides. If

Quoted message said:

having one of those combo pedals is going to make a lousy clipless

pedal

Quoted message said:

than I have a decision to make. The bike is a cyclocross (Bianchi

Axis) that

Quoted message said:

I'll be picking up soon. Appreciate any advice.

I used the platform/SPD combo (323/324) pedals and came to dislike
them. They're not very good clipless pedals in the sense that they're
heavy and have less clearance in turns. They're also poor platform
pedals unless you equip them with straps (which you really can't). Like
strapped pedals, you have to flip them to get them right side up to
clip in, which is something of a PITA. I decided I was better off
buying a another, more sneaker-like, pair of bike shoes to use when I
ride for errands.

Ray said:

Is there a decent pedal that I could get that's both clipless and platform
or should I just go for the clipless pedals and get used to them. I like the
idea of not having to change my shoes every single time I want to jump on
the bike but I'd like to have a quality pedal also for the long rides. If
having one of those combo pedals is going to make a lousy clipless pedal
than I have a decision to make. The bike is a cyclocross (Bianchi Axis) that
I'll be picking up soon. Appreciate any advice.
Ray

Getting a combo pedal can make it difficult finding the right side to clip
in, especially if you've never ridden clipless before. I'd suggest just
getting a mid-value Shimano like the 520.

http://www.touringcyclist.com/gear/model_13041.html

Usually you can get the bike shop to make you a deal for half-price when
swap out the pedals the Axis comes with.

It took a short while to get used to the idea of putting on my cycling
shoes to ride but now I'm glad I went that route.

If you get shoes that use velcro straps, like the Diadora gekko they are
extremely easy to get on quickly. I have no trouble walking around in them.

When you pick up the bike you might try a test ride on the dual-sided type
and see if it's difficult to use.

jj

Jeff Starr said:

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:23:06 GMT, "Beverly" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've used this one for the past year. I also want the convenience of being
able to hop on the bike with regular shoes for short trips around the
neighborhood.

http://www.touringcyclist.com/gear/model_8283.html

Yes, my first pair of clipless pedals were the Shimano PD-M324 which
is just what the OP is talking about. I still have them on my older
bike.
When learning to use clipless, it is nice not having to clip in at
busy intersections or other situations where you would be better off
not focusing on the pedals.

Within about 3 days I was totally comfortable clipping in and out without
looking or thinking about it. Once you get to this stage, it's annoying
trying to search for the side with the clip in. ymmv.

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They are adjustable and can be set to be very easy to get in and out
of.
Highly recommended!

Try both 324s and 520s, then decide. The LBS should allow this on a test
ride.

jj

Quoted message said:

Life is Good!
Jeff

Ray said:

Is there a decent pedal that I could get that's both clipless and platform
or should I just go for the clipless pedals and get used to them. I like
the idea of not having to change my shoes every single time I want to
jump on the bike but I'd like to have a quality pedal also for the long
rides. If having one of those combo pedals is going to make a lousy
clipless pedal than I have a decision to make. The bike is a cyclocross
(Bianchi Axis) that I'll be picking up soon. Appreciate any advice. Ray

I've used the dual sided shimanos as many others have mentioned, on a city
ride.

I used Lake cx shoes with them and like them a ton. Yeah, it's a bit
annoying to have to flip the pedal to clip it, but it's also nice to be
able to jump on the bike in sneakers.

Nashbar's got their Rodeo pedal on sale for $25, so you could give it a
try before you commit.
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=&subcategory=&brand=&sku=6223&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=

There's also all kinds of sneaker adapters that will snap into a
"standard" spd pedal.

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=108&subcategory=1077&brand=&sku=2434&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=

five bucks on sale.

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Ray said:

Is there a decent pedal that I could get that's both clipless and
platform
or should I just go for the clipless pedals and get used to them. I like
the idea of not having to change my shoes every single time I want to
jump on the bike but I'd like to have a quality pedal also for the long
rides. If having one of those combo pedals is going to make a lousy
clipless pedal than I have a decision to make. The bike is a cyclocross
(Bianchi Axis) that I'll be picking up soon. Appreciate any advice. Ray

I've used the dual sided shimanos as many others have mentioned, on a city
ride.

I used Lake cx shoes with them and like them a ton. Yeah, it's a bit
annoying to have to flip the pedal to clip it, but it's also nice to be
able to jump on the bike in sneakers.

Nashbar's got their Rodeo pedal on sale for $25, so you could give it a
try before you commit.
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=&subcategory=&brand=&sku=6223&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=

There's also all kinds of sneaker adapters that will snap into a
"standard" spd pedal.

I wonder how those sneaker adapters work. Can't beat the price.
Ray

Quoted message said:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=108&subcategory=1077&brand=&sku=2434&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=

five bucks on sale.

Excellent info. Thanks to everybody. I'm going to drive the lbs nuts trying
out these pedals.
Ray
"jj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:24:09 -0500, "Ray" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Getting a combo pedal can make it difficult finding the right side to clip
in, especially if you've never ridden clipless before. I'd suggest just
getting a mid-value Shimano like the 520.

http://www.touringcyclist.com/gear/model_13041.html

Usually you can get the bike shop to make you a deal for half-price when
swap out the pedals the Axis comes with.

It took a short while to get used to the idea of putting on my cycling
shoes to ride but now I'm glad I went that route.

If you get shoes that use velcro straps, like the Diadora gekko they are
extremely easy to get on quickly. I have no trouble walking around in
them.

When you pick up the bike you might try a test ride on the dual-sided type
and see if it's difficult to use.

Quoted message said:

jj

Ray said:

Quoted message said:

There's also all kinds of sneaker adapters that will snap into a
"standard" spd pedal.

I wonder how those sneaker adapters work. Can't beat the price.
Ray

Quoted message said:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=108&subcategory=1077&brand=&sku=2434&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=

five bucks on sale.

The adapters have a piece on the bottom side that is the shape of a
cleat. So the adapter just snaps into place. Think of the adapter as
subbing for a cleated riding shoe. You snap them in and twist to the
side to release.

Very simple and if you ask the LBS, they probably have some. I know my
buddies Giant OCR1 came with them.

You may want to consider getting used to the bike, before
experimenting with the pedals. That way, you will be able to focus on
the pedals, rather than be distracted by all various new features, on
the bike itself.

Everytime I have heard people talk of forgeting to release from the
pedals, it is because they were distracted or not focusing on the use
of the pedals. When I learned to ride with clipless, I knew the bike,
so shifting, braking, etc were all pretty much automatic.

Jeff Starr said:

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I wonder how those sneaker adapters work. Can't beat the price.
Ray

The adapters have a piece on the bottom side that is the shape of a
cleat. So the adapter just snaps into place. Think of the adapter as
subbing for a cleated riding shoe. You snap them in and twist to the
side to release.

I'm pretty sure those come with most Shimano SPD pedals. Sounds like the OP
wants to sometimes be able to hop on the bike with regular sneakers/shoes
for a short errand. It's easy enough to click the sneaker adapter on for
that purpose. Then, for _real_ rides he'd have the advantage of dual sided
SPDs.

http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/39/39/b3_1_b.JPG

Art Harris

"Ray" wrote ...

Quoted message said:

Is there a decent pedal that I could get that's both clipless and platform
or should I just go for the clipless pedals and get used to them. I like

the

Quoted message said:

idea of not having to change my shoes every single time I want to jump on
the bike but I'd like to have a quality pedal also for the long rides. If
having one of those combo pedals is going to make a lousy clipless pedal
than I have a decision to make. The bike is a cyclocross (Bianchi Axis)

that

Quoted message said:

I'll be picking up soon. Appreciate any advice.
Ray

I've got the dual sided Shimano pedals (323?) on my touring/summer commuting
bike. I like being able to run to the store in sneakers, sandals, etc., and
I like being able to put reflectors on them since my commute home is usually
in the dark. They are heavy though, and cornering clearance is limited, so
for long rides or tours I generally switch them for a pair of SPD pedals.
--
mark

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:01:07 -0500, "Arthur Harris" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Jeff Starr said:

Quoted message said:

I wonder how those sneaker adapters work. Can't beat the price.
Ray

The adapters have a piece on the bottom side that is the shape of a
cleat. So the adapter just snaps into place. Think of the adapter as
subbing for a cleated riding shoe. You snap them in and twist to the
side to release.

I'm pretty sure those come with most Shimano SPD pedals. Sounds like the OP
wants to sometimes be able to hop on the bike with regular sneakers/shoes
for a short errand. It's easy enough to click the sneaker adapter on for
that purpose. Then, for _real_ rides he'd have the advantage of dual sided
SPDs.

http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/39/39/b3_1_b.JPG

Art Harris

You are saying that Shimano includes the adapters with most of their
SPD pedals? I did not know that. I've never seen it mentioned in any
ad for SPD pedals.

Well, that would simplify things for the OP.

Life is Good!
Jeff