what level are you?

I am unofficially level five, almost six. now all the serious
freestylers will come in here saying that if I've never been tested
officially, then it doesn't count at all for anything. oh well!

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I'm level seven. I have ridden levels five, six, and seven several times
with few enough errors to pass. I'm planning to get tested and
officially pass level seven in a few weeks. As soon as I get the
pirouette and backward spin, I'll be level eight and hopefully, I'll
pass level ten in a couple years.

For this poll, I think unofficial level is best, that is, if you can do
all the tricks on a certain level, including transitions and mounts
(with the special requirements for level seven and above mounts) you are
that level, even if you aren't necessarily consistent on it. My reason
is that that's what I think most of us mean when we say we are a
particular level.

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im level 4, but i have a solid glide and 180 unispin. never been tested.

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i have never been tested. there are no other unicyclists in my area.
also i don't know anyone else on this site therefore i can say i am
level ten and no one can contradict me AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. ( i am
level 3. how can i get tested😕 )((HELP!!!))

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I am an expert level 1 😄

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Im level 7, but i tested myself being very strict in following the rule
book, there arent any testers around here so i cant get it official....

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"10.2 SUBMITTING PASSED SKILL LEVELS:
Passed levels can be submitted to the USA by sending them to the USA
mailing address. Submit the name of the person tested and the date
passed. All levels passed by members are stored in the USA database.

10.2.1 SUBMITTING PASSED LEVELS 1 TO 4
Riders who want to test levels 1 through 4 do not need to be tested by
an official USA level tester.

10.2.2 SUBMITTING PASSED LEVELS 5 AND ABOVE
For levels 5 and above, an official USA or IUF level tester or a tester
designated by an affiliated USA club must test the rider. When
submitting the passed level, submit the tester's name and USA number if
applicable."

This is from the USA website. I've heard that you also need an uncut
video if you want to pass levels 1-4 without an official tester, but I'm
not sure.

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I don't think levels are an accurate reflection of any riding skill. I
can ride my unicycle as if it were an extension of my body, so I don't
see the use of rating my freestyle levels anymores, rather, if someone
wants to know if I can doa triack, they can ask me about the specific
trick. Also, being as I'm a trials and muni rider, what do I care about
seat out in back backwards riding? I already have all the balance gains
due to learning new tricks, so now I only learn new tricks if they're
interesting, rather than what the skill levels tell em to do.

BTW, I'm around 7-9, depending on the day and unicycle. I voted level 7,
since I know I can do all of that. As I mentioned in another thread a
while back, though, I can do level 10 and above tricks, so I see no
reason to classify myself by level.

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who cares about stupid levels just go out ride and improve on your
skills 🙄

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Im a level 5 almost six, but im not very good , while chosen is only a
level four and can glide and whatnot whille i cant acount for any of
that.. so the level is somewhat faulty, i think they need a trials and
MUni level thing too.

Chase

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Quoted message said:

I don't think levels are an accurate reflection of any riding skill.

That's true in one respect, that low skill level riders can still be
very advanced. I could do coasting and sideways wheel walk when I was
level five. (This is not meant to imply that I'm very advanced yet.) If
however, you have passed the high levels, it is an indication that you
are a very advanced rider. No one can learn the transition to side ride
or the backward pirouette with investing a huge amount of time improving
their abilities. The skill levels are also a good motivator for
practicing advanced skills, as well as learning easier skills
thoroughly. It's tempting not to bother with learning one-footed riding
and one-footed wheel walking with your non-dominant foot as well as all
the figure eights, but by learning those skills thoroughly, you will
become a better rider. I don't think it's good though to stick too
closely to the skill levels, even if you are only a freestyler rider,
because the skill levels miss lots of really cool tricks like stand-up
wheel walk and spoke walk, and some of the tricks are not really
appropriate to the rest of the stuff on the level. The skill levels are
still a great motivational tool, though.

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You can get yourself officially tested for UUU (IUF affiliated) skill
levels at BUC12.

http://www.unicycle.org.uk/buc12/

Paul Gibbs.
British Unicycle Convention 12 Organiser.

saam said:

? i am level 4

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jsm said:

*That's true in one respect, that low skill level riders can still be
very advanced. I could do coasting and sideways wheel walk when I was
level five. (This is not meant to imply that I'm very advanced yet.)
If however, you have passed the high levels, it is an indication that
you are a very advanced rider. No one can learn the transition to side
ride or the backward pirouette with investing a huge amount of time
improving their abilities. The skill levels are also a good motivator
for practicing advanced skills, as well as learning easier skills
thoroughly. It's tempting not to bother with learning one-footed
riding and one-footed wheel walking with your non-dominant foot as
well as all the figure eights, but by learning those skills
thoroughly, you will become a better rider. I don't think it's good
though to stick too closely to the skill levels, even if you are only
a freestyler rider, because the skill levels miss lots of really cool
tricks like stand-up wheel walk and spoke walk, and some of the tricks
are not really appropriate to the rest of the stuff on the level. The
skill levels are still a great motivational tool, though. *

I learned to 1f, ww, 1fww, and glide for the sole purpose of learning to
glide. I never cared about whether I could do them weak foot or in a
figure 8. It just so happens, though, that the few times I tried them
weak footed, I was successful. The same goes for figure 8s.

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If I had any desire to ride on my stomach and learn a couple more mounts
I could be an unofficial 3 and some change. I can already ride
backwards, seat out front or back, and I'm working on 1 footed riding.
As a relatively new rider, I've found the lower skill levels helpful
because they provide some type of order to work on skills. However the
higher levels don't seem very relevant to the variety of riding styles
currently represented. I get more thrill out of riding a long narrow
strip of windy pavement than riding on my stomach. 😉

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I can do everything in level 2 (so that's what I voted), but have only
been tested at level 1. I wouldn't pass level 3 because I can't do
stomach on seat and I'm hopeless at fancy mounts (I can do a static
mount equally well with either foot, but nothing else - well I've
managed a side mount a couple of times).

I'm trying to learn to idle at the moment, which is apparently a level 4
skill, but seems far more useful to me than stomach on seat. It would
be good to be able to idle to let people pass on a narrow track, or cars
on a narrow road - at the moment I either ride as slowly as I can or
find a post or tree to lean on.

I'm not really into freestyle (so I don't practice those things half as
much as perhaps I should), but I can see that being able to do those
things in the levels is a good indication of general skill and unicycle
control, even though being able to jump over a rock/log/rut/whatever
that gets in my way would be far more useful to me than wheel-walk or
stomach on seat for example.

And one of the levels should include "ride along a straight track in a
20mph crosswind".

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Any listing of "what level are you" should be accompanied with a note of
whether you've been officially tested, or tested on your own. Some
people test on their own very strictly, and others are very sloppy, not
necessarily even checking to see how many mistakes are allowed per
level.

I'm a level 7, but I play a level 9 on TV (skill levels video joke).

gerblefranklin said:

*I don't think levels are an accurate reflection of any riding skill.*

Sure they are. They are a reflection of Freestyle, or flatland riding
skill. They are basically *not* a reflection of any other kind of riding
skill.

You have to think back to when these levels were created. The original
set (1-4) was developed in 1979. That level 4 was quite a bit harder
than today's version; maybe between 5 and 6. But we rewrote the levels
in the mid-1980s and removed props and a speed component. The idea was
to be able to do everything indoors.

Nobody was doing Trials in 1985 because there were no unicycles that
could do it. We could jump up and down bleachers and similar, but if we
kept at it we'd break our unicycles over and over. This didn't get
popular until the unicycles got better.

Making levels for things like Trials and MUni is harder, though I'm sure
something could be worked out. Mostly it would be harder as it would
require testing apparatuses that would be complicated to build, and have
to be of specific sizes.

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cathwood said:

*looking at the levels, it looks as though there is not as much
between level 1 & level 2 as there is getting to level 1 in the 1st
place. D' you think this is true?*

Definitely. But the idea back in level-creation times was to start with
the ability to mount and ride.

I knew a physical education teacher who said he had a much more
broken-down set of levels, or steps, he uses in his classes. He said he
was going to publish them, but that was back in 1999 or so. Beginner
levels would be nice. Not necessarily levels, but a progression to tell
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johnfoss said:

Making levels for things like Trials and MUni is harder, though I'm sure
something could be worked out.

I think Carol McLean is chairing a committee working on Trials and
MUni levels? Wasn't U-Turn involved too?

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Hi, Klaas.

Yes. We've been working on this for over two years now.

U-Turn has also spent a lot of time and effort on this.

Several other riders from all over the world have helped in various
ways, too.

The Technical levels have been very difficult to design, but we have
made progress. If anyone would like to help, please let me know. We
have a set of skill tests now that we're getting ready to field test,
but we need more input.

My email is: unicyclecentral at hotmail dot com

And, with the help of some clubs around the U.S., we're field testing
several of the other new skill divisions right now.

The new skill system is much broader. It includes many different styles
of riding, and it's also divided into tiers by difficulty -- Beginning,
Intermediate, Advanced, and Expert.

After completing the beginning tier, riders can branch out to several
new divisions in Tier 2, including Artistic, Technical, Tall, UW, and
others. From there, they can keep progressing to the next higher set of
skills, and they can also try out new divisions. So, riders who are
mainly interested in Artistic riding can also switch at some point and
pass some levels in giraffe riding, or UW riding, or whatever else
interests them.

The new system is easy to expand, and there can always be a new set of
skills to learn in any of the various divisions.

Plus, in the higher tiers, there will be required skills and then a list
of skills to choose from. That way, if riders find that just one skill
is holding them back, they may be able to keep progressing without doing
that particular skill (if it isn't a required skill, of course).

So far, new riders like it quite a bit, because it provides more
encouragement right away. It's difficult to learn to ride and to
freemount, so those skills are in different base levels, which makes it
easier for new riders to make progress early on.

Skill levels aren't for everyone, but they are helpful for many people.
They help riders set challenges, and they make it easier for people to
compare their skills with others, based on a common set of rules. Many
people find them personally motivating, but there are people who don't
like any structure at all.

Members of the USA, Inc. Skills Development Committee have looked at
many other sports as they've developed the new system. We've used quite
a bit of information from the history of figure skating in this process.

If you want to hear more, or help out, please let me know!

Thanks.

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