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  1. As it looks like I may be going back to school, and as there is no good
    place to park near my college, my wife recently bought me a Sun 29er.
    For now, it will be a commuter unicycle, but eventually I'd like to
    upgrade it to a light offroad rider/ commuter hybrid. So I have a few
    questions.

    What should be the first thing to upgrade on the unicycle? I've heard
    that the rims don't fare too well, so that will probably be the first
    thing to go. But if I upgrade the rim, I'll also have to buy new
    spokes, and should get a new hub as well. So I'll be saving my pennies
    until I can get a new wheelset. Which brings me to my next question.

    Will the 'Kris Holm 29\" rim'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=805) fit in the Sun 29"
    frame? Eventually, I'll upgrade the frame as well, but the frame will
    hold up longer than the rim. I just don't want to have to build the
    entire thing all at once.

    After the rim, what would the next thing to upgrade be? I heard that
    the seat isn't very comfortable, but I'm guessing that the standard
    cranks aren't that great either.

    This will probably be a two year project, as money will be tight as we
    go through graduate school (we're trying to do it without student
    loans). But I hope to someday have a fun ride for longer trips.

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  2. Get a Big Apple tire, for one. I've been riding it the last couple weeks
    on a borrowed Blueshift. It's a fine 29-er commuting tire. Fast and
    smooth.

    Wish I could speak to all your other questions, but I can't. Was just
    feeling bad that you were still in the No Replies club after several
    hours.

    Recommended combination: Big Apple tire, and Apple flavored Jolly
    Rancher candies. Ride the one while savoring the other.

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    tomblackwood - Registered Nurtz

    Tailgate at your own risk.....

    "By George! The man's a genius!"
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  3. tomblackwood said:

    *Get a Big Apple tire, for one.*

    That, or a seat upgrade first, depending on the distance of your
    commute. Since you will use your uni for commuting those are the most
    important upgrades.

    I've had my Big Apple for 1.5 years and am fully satisfied with it.
    There is a BA 28 x 2.00" and a BA 28 x 2.35". Not sure about the Sun
    frame but if the 2.35" fits, get that one. The actual inflated width is
    about 60 mm, inflated diameter is 74.2 cm or 29.2". (They are called 28"
    by Schalbe, but us unicyclists call them 29"😉.

    Cranks are a less important issue for commuting I think (assuming that
    it's a reasonable smooth road ride, no hops'n'drops).

    Klaas Bil

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  4. Definetely upgrade the seat. The only way I would tell somebody to use
    one of those is if I wished to never have to deal with their
    offspring.

    Actually I learned on a sun saddle, but once I had ridden on a KH seat,
    I will never use the sun again.

    On the subject of tires, I'm not sure about the 29", but the tire that
    comes with the 26" and 24" is not horrible.

    --
    Fuego - Unicycle Ninja

    "Unicycling is more about the center of concentration than the center of
    balance."

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  5. According to 'this thread' (http://tinyurl.com/6kjk6), the Big Apple
    won't fit in the Sun frame. Has anyone actually tried it in this
    specific frame?
    From searching through the archives, it sounds like this thread has come
    up a number of times in the past. I'm not the only one who wants to
    start cheap and work my way up...

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    Every time I see this thread I wonder what happened to Paco's back.
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  6. paco said:

    *This will probably be a two year project, as money will be tight as
    we go through graduate school (we're trying to do it without student
    loans). *


    2 years! you could collect pop cans and have enough for a new kh 29er
    in just a couple months. maybe longer where you are since they are not
    worth 5 cents a can like here, but way before 2 years.

    --
    jagur - Sealed in Carbonite

    Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
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  7. I would get a cyclocross rim, size 700C (622mm, 28''😉 is the standard
    size for them, they are designed to be strong and light, the cyclocross
    tyres are pretty thin (about 30-35mm), and have a not that deep thread
    pattern that gives low rolling resistance and a fairly good grip.

    Remember that only the hub, the frame and the seat is the
    unicycling-specific parts on a uni. 🙂

    I don't think a bigger and fatter tire would be any good, if you use it
    as a communer in first hand, and the cyclocross rim and tyre would not
    break when riding XC.

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  8. jagur said:

    *2 years! you could collect pop cans and have enough for a new kh 29er
    in just a couple months. maybe longer where you are since they are not
    worth 5 cents a can like here, but way before 2 years. *

    All the pop cans I collect are going to be going towards my tuition. I
    can't justify the extra couple hundred dollars when we'll barely have
    enough to pay rent.

    Lleberg, from what I've read, the fatter tire makes the ride smoother
    and less uncontrollable, even as a commuter. Can anyone verify this?
    Good point about the uni-specific parts, though!

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    Every time I see this thread I wonder what happened to Paco's back.
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  9. jagur said:

    *2 years! you could collect pop cans and have enough for a new kh 29er
    in just a couple months. maybe longer where you are since they are not
    worth 5 cents a can like here, but way before 2 years. *

    Even better he could collect the cans in UT and return them in OR. Then
    he'd really be making some money.😄

    --
    bugman - Survivor 2004 Wolfman Duathalon

    -"Worried about rising sea levels? Move into the hills! I might be a
    hillbilly but when you're drinking saltwater in the 2nd floor of your
    beach condo, my mullet will be drier than a can of Skoal left open on a
    sunny day."- - maestro8

    -"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who
    are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."- -
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  10. Hi Paco, good to have you back in the forum 🙂

    Is there any reason you can't use the seat from your other unicycle on
    the new one (except for the inconvenience of switching it between the
    unis)?

    --
    Borges

    "However, I confess that the ultimate wheel lacks the day to day
    practicality of the conventional unicycle" -Mikefule
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  11. Borges said:

    *(except for the inconvenience of switching it between the unis)? *

    That's the main reason. I also have an older Kris Holm seat, and I
    don't want to remove it too often, for fear of spinning the bolts. Then
    I'd have to buy two new seats.
    I started on a Savage. I think I can handle an uncomfortable seat for a
    while. 😄

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  12. paco said:

    *As it looks like I may be going back to school, and as there is no
    good place to park near my college, my wife recently bought me a Sun
    29er. For now, it will be a commuter unicycle, but eventually I'd
    like to upgrade it to a light offroad rider/ commuter hybrid. So I
    have a few questions.
    *

    If it rides okay on the road and you're not going to do big drops, just
    ride it off road too. It'll probably hold up fine. If the rim breaks,
    then you know you need a new one. If you're skint, there's no point
    upgrading until you need it.

    Big apple is worth getting if you've got the money spare. A seat with a
    handle is nice too. Although the first thing I'd do is buy some cheap
    metal pedals with pins, that's totally the thing that makes the biggest
    difference, especially if you're riding fast.

    Joe

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  13. paco said:

    *All the pop cans I collect are going to be going towards my tuition.
    I can't justify the extra couple hundred dollars when we'll barely
    have enough to pay rent.*


    time to sell some plasma.

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  14. (I'd forgotten how quickly these threads get swallowed up. This was on
    the third page when I rescued it).

    So, I have some good news. I got my Sun 28" yesterday from 'Sunrise
    Cyclery' (https://shop.sunrisecyclery.com/display/1096/0/). Here are my
    first thoughts.

    Everyone says how uncomfortable the seat is. It feels fine to me. Not
    as cushy as a Kris Holm seat, but it feels pretty much like a few other
    unicycle seats I've had. And better than a Savage. True, if I end up
    doing longer rides, I'll probably upgrade, but it feels fine for now.

    The rim appears to be aluminum. Not steel. It feels sturdy enough, but
    I'm not planning on doing anything besides ride off curbs (for now).

    I think the first thing I'm going to upgrade is the tire. It came with
    a 28 x 1.75, and it feels like a rocks after my 3" Muni tire. There is
    still plenty of room to upgrade tires without anything rubbing (I think
    that a 2.1, 2.3 tire fits?)

    The 28" goes a lot faster than I think. I UPD'd at a regular pace and
    had to run out of it. It's nice having that extra speed.

    People say that 28ers are harder to control. It feels fine to me. I
    got on my first try and was off and riding in no time. I had 2 UPD's,
    but that was just getting the hang of the new setup.

    The uni that came from Sunrise Cyclery only had one option for seat post
    size, so being 5'8", I had to cut the post so I could reach the
    pedals.

    The pedals are cheapos, but for the price, I'm not going to complain.

    All in all, I am well satisfied with the $99 I paid for it (including
    shipping). There are plenty of better 28" unicycles out there, but this
    one should serve my needs nicely for now.

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