Key Lime pie

Unhealthy. I would like to see just one recipe for
a pie crust that is not chock full of trans fat or
saturated fat.

When I make Key Lime Pie, I only make the filling,
which I eat like it's yogurt. The heck with
heart-killer fats.

Yef said:

Unhealthy. I would like to see just one recipe for
a pie crust that is not chock full of trans fat or
saturated fat.

When I make Key Lime Pie, I only make the filling,
which I eat like it's yogurt. The heck with
heart-killer fats.

Pie is not supposed to be healthy.

I don't have a recipe because I haven't tried it yet, but how about
mixing pecan meal or ground almond with a very small amount of sugar and
flour. Press it into the pie pan like you were making a graham cracker
crust, and bake for 10 minutes. The nuts should have enough natural fat
to make it work, but supposedly it's good-for-you fats.

Best regards,
Bob

Are you joking? It's hideous, and unnecessarily so.

Graham crackers (any brand) have trans fat.

Egg yolks aren't (AFAIK) necessary.

Butter should be replaced with something more healthy.

Yef said:

Are you joking? It's hideous, and unnecessarily so.
Graham crackers (any brand) have trans fat.
Egg yolks aren't (AFAIK) necessary.
Butter should be replaced with something more healthy.

What's your point? He's talking about key lime pie, a scrumptious
dessert that contains some ingredients you don't seem to want. So you
don't have to make it or eat it. So what? Yes, the egg yolks are
necessary--this is a custardy thing, and yes, the graham cracker crust
is traditional, and yes, there are things healthier than butter,
although margarine is not one of them. That's why many people choose
how much of it to use and when. If they choose to use it in this
dessert, why not?

-aem

You can make a pie crust with canola oil instead of solid shortening.
Tastes great, and no sat fat.

mary.
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Unhealthy. I would like to see just one recipe for
a pie crust that is not chock full of trans fat or
saturated fat.

When I make Key Lime Pie, I only make the filling,
which I eat like it's yogurt. The heck with
heart-killer fats.

On Tue 08 Mar 2005 03:27:26p, Yef wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Are you joking? It's hideous, and unnecessarily so.

Graham crackers (any brand) have trans fat.

Egg yolks aren't (AFAIK) necessary.

Butter should be replaced with something more healthy.

You've read and posted on this group long enough to know that the major
focus here is clearly not on low-fat, low-cholesterol, zero trans fat,
sugar-free, low-carb, etc., etc. etc.

If you don't like recipes like the one that was posted, then don't make
them. Simple enough. I doubt that anyone is going to customize a recipe
for your personal taste. That's your job!

The recipe was for pie, for cripes sake! Pies are typically decadent in
one way or another and meant for sheer enjoyment, and unless you're a pig,
a moderate amount of a good pie won't affect you one way or another. That
is, unless one more gram of fat will put you in your coffin, in which case
there's very little you should be eating. Consider a feeding tube.

--
Wayne Boatwright
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Alright then, why don't you tell us how to make a key lime pie that will
past the taste test and YOUR healthy eating test? You seem to bash pretty
well, but how well can you actually cook?

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Are you joking? It's hideous, and unnecessarily so.

Graham crackers (any brand) have trans fat.

Egg yolks aren't (AFAIK) necessary.

Butter should be replaced with something more healthy.

"Yef" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Are you joking? It's hideous, and unnecessarily so.

Graham crackers (any brand) have trans fat.

Egg yolks aren't (AFAIK) necessary.

Butter should be replaced with something more healthy.

How about we replace you with something that has a clue?

--oTTo--

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Tue 08 Mar 2005 03:27:26p, Yef wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Are you joking? It's hideous, and unnecessarily so.

Graham crackers (any brand) have trans fat.

Egg yolks aren't (AFAIK) necessary.

Butter should be replaced with something more healthy.

You've read and posted on this group long enough to know that the

major

Quoted message said:

focus here is clearly not on low-fat, low-cholesterol, zero trans

fat,

Quoted message said:

sugar-free, low-carb, etc., etc. etc.

It should be, because it is perfectly possible to eat in a
healthy manner and still enjoy some amount of sweets.
If your personal focus in life is to harm yourself as
much as possible, maybe YOU are in the wrong group,
you should probably be in the sado-masochism area.

Hey, Bahn, hit the road. We don't need any 16 year old twerps like you
in this forum.

Bash? Who's bashing? You seem paranoid.

Brilliant. You are a shining example of a rational, non-masochistic
person.

On Wed 09 Mar 2005 10:48:10a, Yef wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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Wayne Boatwright said:

On Tue 08 Mar 2005 03:27:26p, Yef wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Are you joking? It's hideous, and unnecessarily so.

Graham crackers (any brand) have trans fat.

Egg yolks aren't (AFAIK) necessary.

Butter should be replaced with something more healthy.

You've read and posted on this group long enough to know that the
major focus here is clearly not on low-fat, low-cholesterol, zero
trans fat, sugar-free, low-carb, etc., etc. etc.

It should be, because it is perfectly possible to eat in a
healthy manner and still enjoy some amount of sweets.
If your personal focus in life is to harm yourself as
much as possible, maybe YOU are in the wrong group,
you should probably be in the sado-masochism area.

This group was here in much the same form as now for many years longer than
you have posted here. Your assinine comments don't really bear rebuttal,
and your trolling manner is totally unwelcome.

I hope you enjoy the company of very few others who reside in my kill file.

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Made my first key lime pie! I've seen recipes for them
with a lot of ingredients, but this one took three for
the crust and another three for the fill. This is for
two 9" pies.

crust:
3 cups graham cracker crumbs
9 Tb butter
9 Tb sugar

filling:
1 cup key lime juice
2 14 oz can sweetened condensed milk
6 lg egg yolks

Press the crust into the pans and bake for 10 minutes
at 300 degrees. I used a handheld electric beater and
on the filling until well-blended. Pour into crust
and bake at 350 for 16 minutes. Cool at room temp and
then refrigerate. Delicious! I like mine piled high
with whip cream. WAHOOO!!

To be honest, the pie came out a bit thin. I think
you could probably increase the filling by 50% and
still not overflow. I did not see any swelling in the
filling as it cooked.

I understand that you don't need key lime juice, and
that many conches don't bother with it. I think they
use half/half lime and lemon juice, but don't quote me
on that.

Michael

Well done ...

IMHO, Key lime pie without using key lime juice is like making chocolate
pudding without chocolate.
There is definitely a difference. The Key Lime Juice is available in bottles
in most better groceries, and worth the nominal price. It is a
richer-tasting more-aromatic and less-sour pie than regular lime juice.

BTW - Many of the "original key lime pie" recipes I have seen do not bake
the filling - in them, the raw eggs yolks just set - a scary thing even for
me, before we could get pasteurized eggs.
I still do as I used to - heat the filling very slowly to pasteurize
temp, stirring slowly constantly with a wire whisk.

No baking.

Now I have one with a baking time.

-- said:

IMHO, Key lime pie without using key lime juice is like making chocolate
pudding without chocolate.
There is definitely a difference. The Key Lime Juice is available in bottles
in most better groceries, and worth the nominal price. It is a
richer-tasting more-aromatic and less-sour pie than regular lime juice.

I'm pretty sure what you are buying in those bottles is Key™ lime juice
rather than the juice from key limes. (Good quality, but misleadingly
labeled Persian lime juice)

Best regards,
Bob

Yef said:

Bash? Who's bashing? You seem paranoid.

Please follow basic usenet etiquette and quote the relevant portion of
the original message. I know you know how to from Google, because I've
seen you do it elsewhere.

Brian

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-- said:

IMHO, Key lime pie without using key lime juice is like making chocolate
pudding without chocolate.
There is definitely a difference. The Key Lime Juice is available in

bottles

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in most better groceries, and worth the nominal price. It is a
richer-tasting more-aromatic and less-sour pie than regular lime juice.

I'm pretty sure what you are buying in those bottles is Key™ lime juice
rather than the juice from key limes. (Good quality, but misleadingly
labeled Persian lime juice)

Best regards,
Bob

I don't think I have ever seen that trademark name at the local store -
there are a couple brands here, I'll have to check.

My last bottle smelled just like the ripe whole key limes I can sometimes
get by the bag and just like the little ripe key limes I get in Florida, and
not like other limes.

However, I have a brand new bottle and brand, Nellie and Joes, and it says
"Key West Lime Juice from concentrate", and it's from a shop in the Florida
keys.
They say "the only lime juice manufactured in the keys" which is a kind of
odd phrasing, and why an extra step of "from concentrate" if its bottled
local? Fresh key limes have enough punch they don't need to be concentrated
to use.
This bottle does smell a little sharper and heavier than the other key
limes I have had, so maybe it really is persian limes.
Can't say that I have ever had a persian lime that I knew of so I could
say it for sure.

thanx for the tip

Bob wrote:

I'm pretty sure what you are buying in those bottles is Key™ lime
juice rather than the juice from key limes.

*****************
ARRGHHH!! You are right, Bob! I looked at the bottle. It's "Key West
Lime Juice," not juice from key limes. My only consolation, I guess,
is that I paid a lot for it. For some reason, I'm not comforted.
Haha!

Anyway, I'm glad you let me know. I would have gone back there and
bought more of it.

Michael

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I'm pretty sure what you are buying in those bottles is Key™ lime
juice rather than the juice from key limes. (Good quality, but
misleadingly labeled Persian lime juice)

Best regards, Bob

I don't think I have ever seen that trademark name at the local store
- there are a couple brands here, I'll have to check.

The Key™ was an extreme example of how they might legally mislabel the
stuff. (Like the "wheat" crackers that someone posted about a few days
ago that contain 0% whole wheat. They are just regular saltines with a
little caramel color added. The name makes you think that they have a
significant amount of whole wheat, but really all saltines are wheat
crackers.)

Quoted message said:

My last bottle smelled just like the ripe whole key limes I can
sometimes get by the bag and just like the little ripe key limes I
get in Florida, and not like other limes.

However, I have a brand new bottle and brand, Nellie and Joes, and it
says "Key West Lime Juice from concentrate", and it's from a shop in
the Florida keys. They say "the only lime juice manufactured in the
keys" which is a kind of odd phrasing, and why an extra step of "from
concentrate" if its bottled local? Fresh key limes have enough punch
they don't need to be concentrated to use.

That Nellie and Joe's bottle has awfully tortured language to make you
think the bottle contains key lime juice without actually saying that.
They apparently buy frozen concentrated lime juice from who-knows-where,
and dilute and bottle it (that's the "maufactured" part) in Key West,
Florida. Maybe they buy the best lime juice in the world and really are
a super-premium product. I won't buy it because I think the label is
dishonest. The best case would be if they buy Mexican lime juice from
Mexico or The Caribbean (see below), but I doubt it. If that were the
case, they would proudly say "key limes" on the bottle somewhere.

Quoted message said:

This bottle does smell a little sharper and heavier than the other
key limes I have had, so maybe it really is persian limes. Can't say
that I have ever had a persian lime that I knew of so I could say it
for sure.

Persian limes (Citrus latifolia) are the large thick-skinned limes that
look like green lemons. There's nothing really wrong with them, except
that they are picked green to keep them from being confused with lemons.
When they ripen, they turn yellow. Mexican limes, or "limons" are the
same thing as real key limes (Citrus aurantifolia). Key limes haven't
been grown commercially in Florida since the 1920's when all the
orchards were replanted after a freeze or flood or something wiped them out.

Best regards,
Bob