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  1. The trainer at our gym taught my daughter to do a barbell curl keeping
    the barbell as close to her body as possible throughout the movement.
    This means adjusting the elbows backward as the bar is brought up, then
    allowing them to come forward as the bar comes back down.

    I've never seen this before. I've looked at several form videos online,
    and it appears that in most of them, the elbow is stationary and the bar
    moves further away from the body at about 90 degrees, then closer again
    until the top of the movement.

    Is what he's taught her helpful? Is there any danger or disadvantage in
    performing the curl this way?

  2. Preacher said:

    The trainer at our gym taught my daughter to do a barbell curl keeping
    the barbell as close to her body as possible throughout the movement.
    This means adjusting the elbows backward as the bar is brought up, then
    allowing them to come forward as the bar comes back down.

    I've never seen this before. I've looked at several form videos online,
    and it appears that in most of them, the elbow is stationary and the bar
    moves further away from the body at about 90 degrees, then closer again
    until the top of the movement.

    Is what he's taught her helpful? Is there any danger or disadvantage in
    performing the curl this way?

    It might help untrained people avoid lower back injury from having the
    lever arm further out from the centre of gravity, or avoid said injury
    by making the movement into something where rocking back and forth to
    heave the weight up becomes more difficult.

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  3. Preacher said:

    The trainer at our gym taught my daughter to do a barbell curl keeping
    the barbell as close to her body as possible throughout the movement.
    This means adjusting the elbows backward as the bar is brought up, then
    allowing them to come forward as the bar comes back down.

    Sounds like a form of the drag curl.

    Quoted message said:

    I've never seen this before. I've looked at several form videos online,
    and it appears that in most of them, the elbow is stationary and the bar
    moves further away from the body at about 90 degrees, then closer again
    until the top of the movement.

    Is what he's taught her helpful? Is there any danger or disadvantage in
    performing the curl this way?

    Seems like that way would require more weight o get the same effect.
    It's different anyway.

  4. Preacher said:

    The trainer at our gym taught my daughter to do a barbell curl keeping
    the barbell as close to her body as possible throughout the movement.
    This means adjusting the elbows backward as the bar is brought up, then
    allowing them to come forward as the bar comes back down.

    I've never seen this before. I've looked at several form videos online,
    and it appears that in most of them, the elbow is stationary and the bar
    moves further away from the body at about 90 degrees, then closer again
    until the top of the movement.

    Is what he's taught her helpful? Is there any danger or disadvantage in
    performing the curl this way?


    I met that back in the day, under the name, "scrape curls." I think it
    would restrict the range of motion, and the load on the biceps, which is
    mostly the reason that people do curls in the first place.

    rm

  5. (Preacher) said:

    The trainer at our gym taught my daughter to do a barbell curl keeping
    the barbell as close to her body as possible throughout the movement.
    This means adjusting the elbows backward as the bar is brought up, then
    allowing them to come forward as the bar comes back down.

    I've never seen this before. I've looked at several form videos online,
    and it appears that in most of them, the elbow is stationary and the bar
    moves further away from the body at about 90 degrees, then closer again
    until the top of the movement.

    Is what he's taught her helpful? Is there any danger or disadvantage in
    performing the curl this way?

    It's certainly not unhelpful, but a trifle dated.

    The theory was, and still is, that by carrying out a biceps curl in
    this way, that the weight would be working against the vertical line
    of gravity throughout the entire ROM.

    The obvious flaw to that theory is that once the weight gets about
    mid-way, it is necessary to move the elbows forward to complete the
    lift, which then means that other muscles are employed, and the biceps
    cease to be the prime movers.

    Have a great weekend - I am!! ;o)

    TFIF!!

  6. DZ said:
    Charles said:
    (Preacher) said:

    The trainer at our gym taught my daughter to do a barbell curl keeping
    the barbell as close to her body as possible throughout the movement.

    It's certainly not unhelpful, but a trifle dated.

    The theory was, and still is, that by carrying out a biceps curl in
    this way, that the weight would be working against the vertical line
    of gravity throughout the entire ROM.

    Pardon the euphemism, but curls are one of the most fist-maticulatory

    That's a new one on me?

    Quoted message said:

    exercises that closely follow triceps kickbacks on that scale.

    They could be helpful as an addition to basic pulling/rowing lifts if
    someone wished to compete in bodybuilding or otherwise devote life to
    arm circumference.

    I would suggest that they would be best forgotten as they are not
    really particularly effective.

    Quoted message said:


    But since I only have an hour or two a day to be in the gym,

    You have that much time and inclination *every* day?

    Quoted message said:

    they stay at the bottom of the queue.

    I agree with that!!

    Quoted message said:

    So does heart-shaped pink cd-player.

    So what will you play your CD's on now? ;o)

    Have a great weekend - I am!! ;o)

    TFIF!!

  7. DZ said:
    Charles said:
    DZ said:

    But since I only have an hour or two a day to be in the gym,

    You have that much time and inclination *every* day?

    I don't need inclination

    Surely "inclination" is the prerequisite of any training regime?

    Quoted message said:

    but I do own a hefty time expander.

    Fiendishly clever!! ;o)

    HAGW!!

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