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  1. Presumably his three day hearing ended today. Has he been seen or heard
    from? Has his mouthpiece Jacobs been spinning at all post-hearing? Someone
    in Denver must know.

    BTW, the bid on dinner with Tyler and Haven prepared by Andy Hampsten is
    over $4,000. I wonder if the successful bidder will be permitted to ask
    inappropriate questions over dinner. ;-)

    --
    How strange when an illusion dies, it's as though you've lost a child.--Judy
    Garland

  2. "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Presumably his three day hearing ended today. Has he been seen or heard
    from? Has his mouthpiece Jacobs been spinning at all post-hearing?
    Someone in Denver must know.

    End o' next week, Bubba. It's in cyclingnews or one of them.

  3. "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Presumably his three day hearing ended today. Has he been seen or heard
    from? Has his mouthpiece Jacobs been spinning at all post-hearing?
    Someone in Denver must know.

    End o' next week, Bubba. It's in cyclingnews or one of them.

    That's not what I asked about. Whatever is decided next week, or sooner,
    the hearing is over and it's high time for Tyler to lay his cards on the
    table for all to see. Telling the public now the specifics of the defense
    his attorney raised will in no way negatively impact what occurred at the
    hearing. If his case was so compelling, it's time to share with his "fans."
    [censored] time is over.

  4. Appeals! Aren't you a lawyer?

  5. "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Jim Flom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Presumably his three day hearing ended today. Has he been seen or heard
    from? Has his mouthpiece Jacobs been spinning at all post-hearing?
    Someone in Denver must know.

    End o' next week, Bubba. It's in cyclingnews or one of them.

    That's not what I asked about. Whatever is decided next week, or sooner,
    the hearing is over and it's high time for Tyler to lay his cards on the
    table for all to see. Telling the public now the specifics of the defense
    his attorney raised will in no way negatively impact what occurred at the
    hearing. If his case was so compelling, it's time to share with his
    "fans." [censored] time is over.

    Maybe he wants to see the evidence tried in court rather than the court of
    public opinion?

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    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Presumably his three day hearing ended today. Has he been seen or
    > heard from? Has his mouthpiece Jacobs been spinning at all
    > post-hearing? Someone in Denver must know.

    End o' next week, Bubba. It's in cyclingnews or one of them.

    That's not what I asked about. Whatever is decided next week, or sooner,
    the hearing is over and it's high time for Tyler to lay his cards on the
    table for all to see. Telling the public now the specifics of the
    defense his attorney raised will in no way negatively impact what
    occurred at the hearing. If his case was so compelling, it's time to
    share with his "fans." [censored] time is over.

    Maybe he wants to see the evidence tried in court rather than the court of
    public opinion?

    Which must be why his lawyer gave an interview to the Denver Post a few days
    before the hearing. It's time for Tyler to put the cards on the table for
    all to see.

  7. B Lafferty said:
    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if the successful bidder will be permitted to ask
    inappropriate questions over dinner. ;-)

    Why would you care about Tyler and Haven's sex life?

  8. gwhite said:
    B Lafferty said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if the successful bidder will be permitted to ask
    inappropriate questions over dinner. ;-)

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    Why would you care about Tyler and Haven's sex life?

    You know, I think it'd be pretty funny if Albright won. He's
    into that sort of thing you know. He went pretty high for
    Decanio's termination letter.

    Maybe the right to ask inappropriate questions over dinner
    would goose the bidding.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

  9. On 3/3/05 7:27 AM, in article [email hidden], "Bob

    Schwartz said:
    gwhite said:
    B Lafferty said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I wonder if the successful bidder will be permitted to ask
    inappropriate questions over dinner. ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    Why would you care about Tyler and Haven's sex life?

    You know, I think it'd be pretty funny if Albright won. He's
    into that sort of thing you know. He went pretty high for
    Decanio's termination letter.

    Maybe the right to ask inappropriate questions over dinner
    would goose the bidding.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Where is this auction?
    I did a search on Ebay and did not see it.....

  10. On 3/3/05 8:30 AM, in article [email hidden],

    Steve said:

    On 3/3/05 7:27 AM, in article [email hidden], "Bob

    Schwartz said:
    gwhite said:

    B Lafferty wrote:
    >

    Quoted message said:

    > I wonder if the successful bidder will be permitted to ask
    > inappropriate questions over dinner. ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    Why would you care about Tyler and Haven's sex life?

    You know, I think it'd be pretty funny if Albright won. He's
    into that sort of thing you know. He went pretty high for
    Decanio's termination letter.

    Maybe the right to ask inappropriate questions over dinner
    would goose the bidding.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Where is this auction?
    I did a search on Ebay and did not see it.....

    http://www.cmarket.com/catalog/landingPage.do?vhost=thfgala

  11. It would be unwise for him or his attorney to say anything of import until
    the ruling is made and offically communicated..

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    >> Presumably his three day hearing ended today. Has he been seen or
    >> heard from? Has his mouthpiece Jacobs been spinning at all
    >> post-hearing? Someone in Denver must know.
    >
    > End o' next week, Bubba. It's in cyclingnews or one of them.

    That's not what I asked about. Whatever is decided next week, or


    sooner,

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    the hearing is over and it's high time for Tyler to lay his cards on


    the

    Quoted message said:
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    table for all to see. Telling the public now the specifics of the
    defense his attorney raised will in no way negatively impact what
    occurred at the hearing. If his case was so compelling, it's time to
    share with his "fans." [censored] time is over.

    Maybe he wants to see the evidence tried in court rather than the court


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    public opinion?

    Which must be why his lawyer gave an interview to the Denver Post a few


    days

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    before the hearing. It's time for Tyler to put the cards on the table for
    all to see.

  12. "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    It would be unwise for him or his attorney to say anything of import until
    the ruling is made and offically communicated..

    There's really very little, if any, risk for him to state in general terms
    what his objections to the test were. At this point the silence is
    deafening. Ya know, the season has started and there are most likely a
    number of pros who would like to know if they're going to be able to do
    homologous transfusions this year.

  13. I can appreciate the eagerness for info, yet disagree with respect to timing
    of anything but a polite statement that we had our time to present our case
    and look forward to the wisdom of the commissioners.

    His matter is not being decided by a jury of his peers, rather by a group of
    egocentric fools who have their own agendas as well as that of the USADA at
    stake. A finding to Tyler's favor would cast doubt on all they've tried to
    accomplish and put their collective agendas at risk of being impotent.

    As I posted before, I'm struggling for an outcome where both parties win
    relative to their agendas. I can't envision one.

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    It would be unwise for him or his attorney to say anything of import


    until

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the ruling is made and offically communicated..

    There's really very little, if any, risk for him to state in general terms
    what his objections to the test were. At this point the silence is
    deafening. Ya know, the season has started and there are most likely a
    number of pros who would like to know if they're going to be able to do
    homologous transfusions this year.

  14. "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I can appreciate the eagerness for info, yet disagree with respect to
    timing
    of anything but a polite statement that we had our time to present our
    case
    and look forward to the wisdom of the commissioners.

    His matter is not being decided by a jury of his peers, rather by a group
    of
    egocentric fools who have their own agendas as well as that of the USADA
    at
    stake. A finding to Tyler's favor would cast doubt on all they've tried
    to
    accomplish and put their collective agendas at risk of being impotent.

    As I posted before, I'm struggling for an outcome where both parties win
    relative to their agendas. I can't envision one.

    Don't encourage him. This is one of those threads that no matter what, he's
    gotta respond.

  15. "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I can appreciate the eagerness for info, yet disagree with respect to
    timing
    of anything but a polite statement that we had our time to present our
    case
    and look forward to the wisdom of the commissioners.

    His matter is not being decided by a jury of his peers, rather by a group
    of
    egocentric fools who have their own agendas as well as that of the USADA
    at
    stake. A finding to Tyler's favor would cast doubt on all they've tried
    to
    accomplish and put their collective agendas at risk of being impotent.

    As I posted before, I'm struggling for an outcome where both parties win
    relative to their agendas. I can't envision one.

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It would be unwise for him or his attorney to say anything of import


    until

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the ruling is made and offically communicated..

    There's really very little, if any, risk for him to state in general
    terms
    what his objections to the test were. At this point the silence is
    deafening. Ya know, the season has started and there are most likely a
    number of pros who would like to know if they're going to be able to do
    homologous transfusions this year.

    From ProCycling today:

    "Tyler Hamilton's hearing in Denver with the US Anti-Doping Agency about his
    positive blood doping test ended on Wednesday with the Olympic time trial
    champion testifying for two hours. Hamilton's lawyer, Howard Jacobs, gave no
    comment on the specifics discussed during the case, but did say that a
    verdict is expected within two weeks. "It's in the hands of the arbitrators
    now," Jacobs told the Denver Post. "They listened to the evidence, and now
    we just have to wait and see how they decide it."

    Jacobs did tell the paper that the USADA had called on scientific experts to
    validate the test, although he said that the experts "weren't authors of the
    validation papers.""

    Interesting. Two hours for Tyler to say.......... what?

  16. B Lafferty said:

    "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I can appreciate the eagerness for info, yet disagree with respect to
    timing
    of anything but a polite statement that we had our time to present our
    case
    and look forward to the wisdom of the commissioners.

    His matter is not being decided by a jury of his peers, rather by a group
    of
    egocentric fools who have their own agendas as well as that of the USADA
    at
    stake. A finding to Tyler's favor would cast doubt on all they've tried
    to
    accomplish and put their collective agendas at risk of being impotent.

    As I posted before, I'm struggling for an outcome where both parties win
    relative to their agendas. I can't envision one.

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >It would be unwise for him or his attorney to say anything of import

    until

    Quoted message said:

    >the ruling is made and offically communicated..

    There's really very little, if any, risk for him to state in general
    terms
    what his objections to the test were. At this point the silence is
    deafening. Ya know, the season has started and there are most likely a
    number of pros who would like to know if they're going to be able to do
    homologous transfusions this year.

    From ProCycling today:

    "Tyler Hamilton's hearing in Denver with the US Anti-Doping Agency about his
    positive blood doping test ended on Wednesday with the Olympic time trial
    champion testifying for two hours. Hamilton's lawyer, Howard Jacobs, gave no
    comment on the specifics discussed during the case, but did say that a
    verdict is expected within two weeks. "It's in the hands of the arbitrators
    now," Jacobs told the Denver Post. "They listened to the evidence, and now
    we just have to wait and see how they decide it."

    Jacobs did tell the paper that the USADA had called on scientific experts to
    validate the test, although he said that the experts "weren't authors of the
    validation papers.""

    Interesting. Two hours for Tyler to say.......... what?


    "awe shucks, come on guys, it's only entertainment."

  17. "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I can appreciate the eagerness for info, yet disagree with respect to
    timing
    of anything but a polite statement that we had our time to present our
    case
    and look forward to the wisdom of the commissioners.

    His matter is not being decided by a jury of his peers, rather by a group
    of
    egocentric fools who have their own agendas as well as that of the USADA
    at
    stake. A finding to Tyler's favor would cast doubt on all they've tried
    to
    accomplish and put their collective agendas at risk of being impotent.

    As I posted before, I'm struggling for an outcome where both parties win
    relative to their agendas. I can't envision one.

    "B Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Wannagofast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > It would be unwise for him or his attorney to say anything of import


    until

    Quoted message said:

    > the ruling is made and offically communicated..

    There's really very little, if any, risk for him to state in general
    terms
    what his objections to the test were. At this point the silence is
    deafening. Ya know, the season has started and there are most likely a
    number of pros who would like to know if they're going to be able to do
    homologous transfusions this year.

    From ProCycling today:

    "Tyler Hamilton's hearing in Denver with the US Anti-Doping Agency about
    his positive blood doping test ended on Wednesday with the Olympic time
    trial champion testifying for two hours. Hamilton's lawyer, Howard Jacobs,
    gave no comment on the specifics discussed during the case, but did say
    that a verdict is expected within two weeks. "It's in the hands of the
    arbitrators now," Jacobs told the Denver Post. "They listened to the
    evidence, and now we just have to wait and see how they decide it."

    Jacobs did tell the paper that the USADA had called on scientific experts
    to validate the test, although he said that the experts "weren't authors
    of the validation papers.""

    Interesting. Two hours for Tyler to say.......... what?

    "To the best of my recollection, I don't recall"
    Dave

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