Re: Way OT

In article <[email hidden]>, Tonya_049
@webtv.net says...

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Date: Sat, Feb 26, 2005 uhoh@ajfl;ajklsd;ajlds.nutz (Dog3)WROTE:
Okay, I found out late last night someone is usin my social security
number. Supposedly I own a car in Nebraska that was involved in a car
accident, a bad one. I have called the local authorities,not much luck
there. Gawd, I've never been to
Nebraska.-----------------------------------------
RESPONSE: To hell with chinese carry outs & do what Jill posted first
thing Monday morning and stop thinking this is a bad joke that police
will take care of.
Our news -Detroit- ran a special on ID theft recently telling us police
will file a report from you but will not really get involved with these
cases.
It interview couples that filed ID theft reports with proof but their
credit reports were ruined and one couple who filed ID theft were paying
back taxes to IRS from a person who used their social security number to
obtain a job being in united states illegally.
Chances are very good your going to be held responsible for this auto
crash and lose everything.

Because local PD's don't have the funds to go chasing it down. And even
the FBI requires a loss of $20K or more to pursue a case of fraudulent
identity.

Identity thieves know this.

Depends on where you are ...and how much effort you the consumer will
put into it. The police won't do the leg work. Been there, done that
with ID theft and ther perp is in prison as I type.I provided all sorts
of infomation...including an address that the perp had used which I had
never resided at. it showed up on my credit report...and they busted
her...for ID theft, grand larceny, forgery, bank fraud, theft of
negotiable instuments (she'd stolen checks form a local escrow
company). My latest credit report shows that none of this ever
occurred.

Sandi

Sandi said:

Depends on where you are ...and how much effort you the consumer will
put into it. The police won't do the leg work. Been there, done that
with ID theft and ther perp is in prison as I type.I provided all sorts
of infomation...including an address that the perp had used which I had
never resided at. it showed up on my credit report...and they busted
her...for ID theft, grand larceny, forgery, bank fraud, theft of
negotiable instuments (she'd stolen checks form a local escrow
company). My latest credit report shows that none of this ever
occurred.
Sandi

Any clue as to how she obtained your information?
That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
y'know?
Goomba

Goomba38 said:

Sandi said:

Depends on where you are ...and how much effort you the consumer will
put into it. The police won't do the leg work. Been there, done that
with ID theft and ther perp is in prison as I type.I provided all sorts
of infomation...including an address that the perp had used which I had
never resided at. it showed up on my credit report...and they busted
her...for ID theft, grand larceny, forgery, bank fraud, theft of
negotiable instuments (she'd stolen checks form a local escrow
company). My latest credit report shows that none of this ever
occurred.
Sandi

Any clue as to how she obtained your information?
That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
y'know?

OT'ish as regards Michael's sitch we are talking about, but another way ID's
are stolen is when people are deceased...

A guy I knew years ago is in prison in Wisconsin for stealing identities
from decedents. He'd comb the obituaries looking for "marks"...he'd then
contact the family (usually via the funeral home) claiming he was a
Wisconsin state tax official, claiming he needed further info to clear up
some "final tax matters". He would get this info and use it to get credit,
checking accounts, car loans, etc. He'd fence the more expensive
merchandise...

He had quite a nice little scam going until one family got wise and
contacted the police. His biggest boo - boo was impersonating a tax
official, the judge did not like that at all. He also had prior convictions
for ID theft, these he stole by rummaging through dumpsters...

Thing was 20+ years ago when I was acquainted with this guy he seemed
perfectly normal and nice He had an MBA from DePaul University here in
Chicago, had a good job with a brokerage firm in the Loop, had a nice
family, etc. Turns out that despite all his advantages he just had a
criminal mind I guess...

So ya never know...and just because you are deceased is no guarantee you are
safe from these scumbags...

There are more grifters out there than ya'd think, it's not just something
you see in movies. They usually are normal and even nice people, can be
very charming in fact...natcherly that's part of their MO.

--
Best
Greg

Any clue as to how ----- obtained your information?
That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
y'know?
Goomba

SHRED, SHRED, SHRED...

She stole mail addressed to me and used a fraudulent SSN and fake IDs
with her picture but my name and address to set up bank accounts and
credit card accounts. She stole checks from an escrow company and
forged signatures to make the deposits to the fraudulent bank account.
The sheriff said they even caught her going through mail in the DA´s
office wastebaskeet while they were charing her. She was looking for
addresses.

You can contact the credit bureaus and request that pre approved credit
card applications NOT be sent to you. That´s one of the things she
stole.

Sandi

Sheldon' said:

Any clue as to how ----- obtained your information?
That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
y'know?
Goomba

SHRED, SHRED, SHRED...

I used to think that people who shredded their paperwork were just being
paranoid. As time has gone by, I've discovered that they're absolutely
right. Still haven't found our shredder since the move, but it'll be put
to use on our several month's accumulation of junk mail and stuff.

Carol
--
"Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

*James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

Dog3 said:

"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

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Any clue as to how ----- obtained your information?
That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
y'know?
Goomba

SHRED, SHRED, SHRED...

My first info came from the credit bureau. Now my attorney is working

on

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it. I have had no help from the PD. I shouldn't say no help. They did

what

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I assume is their normal procedure. So far, everything done has been

by me.

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The PD won't. But they are required to take a report and allow you to
get a copy of it. Almost every agency I dealt with required a copy of
the police report, the report number and the name of the investigating
officer. They don't don anything until you present them with enough
evidence to collar the person. Since it is a non violent crime, it
doesn't have a high priority.

I provided the PD with every shred of evidence they needed on my ID
theft...including the perp's home address. The bank provided the
information on the bank fraus end (as well as the info I provided when
I received bank statements for an account I never opened). I did it all
from Honduras while this was occurring in Washington state. (faxes,
emails, and Fed Ex)I made one trip back to sign papers and reports and
at that time the woman was already in jail awaiting trial.

Sandi

Goomba38 said:

Sandi said:

Depends on where you are ...and how much effort you the consumer

will

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put into it. The police won't do the leg work. Been there, done

that

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with ID theft and ther perp is in prison as I type.I provided all

sorts

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of infomation...including an address that the perp had used which I

had

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never resided at. it showed up on my credit report...and they

busted

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her...for ID theft, grand larceny, forgery, bank fraud, theft of
negotiable instuments (she'd stolen checks form a local escrow
company). My latest credit report shows that none of this ever
occurred.
Sandi

Any clue as to how she obtained your information?
That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
y'know?
Goomba

She stole credit card bills addressed to me. I never saw the bills and
figured they were delayed in the mail (everything is forwarded from WA
state to me in Honduras). When the fraudulent charges appeared, I
contacted the companies and the credit bureaus. As soon as I sent in
the police report the compnaies dropped all the unauthorized charges.

Sandi

In article <[email hidden]>,
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Dog3 said:

"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Any clue as to how ----- obtained your information?
That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
y'know?
Goomba

SHRED, SHRED, SHRED...

My first info came from the credit bureau. Now my attorney is working

on

Quoted message said:

it. I have had no help from the PD. I shouldn't say no help. They did

what

Quoted message said:

I assume is their normal procedure. So far, everything done has been

by me.

Quoted message said:

The PD won't. But they are required to take a report and allow you to
get a copy of it. Almost every agency I dealt with required a copy of
the police report, the report number and the name of the investigating
officer. They don't don anything until you present them with enough
evidence to collar the person. Since it is a non violent crime, it
doesn't have a high priority.

It's ridiculous since you have a location and if I remember correctly a
vehicle was purchased. That vehicle has an identifier that can be traced
to an address. From there the PD can notify the local PD to go have a
look see and generate any warrants necessary.

Quoted message said:

I provided the PD with every shred of evidence they needed on my ID
theft...including the perp's home address. The bank provided the
information on the bank fraus end (as well as the info I provided when
I received bank statements for an account I never opened). I did it all
from Honduras while this was occurring in Washington state. (faxes,
emails, and Fed Ex)I made one trip back to sign papers and reports and
at that time the woman was already in jail awaiting trial.

In your case it worked. In many peoples cases it doesn't.

Tony P. said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
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Dog3 wrote:

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My first info came from the credit bureau. Now my attorney is

working

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on

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it. I have had no help from the PD. I shouldn't say no help. They

did

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

what

Quoted message said:

I assume is their normal procedure. So far, everything done has

been

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by me.

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The PD won't. But they are required to take a report and allow you

to

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get a copy of it. Almost every agency I dealt with required a copy

of

Quoted message said:

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the police report, the report number and the name of the

investigating

Quoted message said:

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officer. They don't don anything until you present them with enough
evidence to collar the person. Since it is a non violent crime, it
doesn't have a high priority.

It's ridiculous since you have a location and if I remember correctly

a

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vehicle was purchased. That vehicle has an identifier that can be

traced

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to an address. From there the PD can notify the local PD to go have a

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look see and generate any warrants necessary.

They probably can't do it unless an in-person appearance is made to
file a complaint of identity theft by the victim. I was informed by the
Sheriff's Office that had I not shown up IN PERSON at the Sheriff's
Office to file a report that they would not persue the identity theft
portion of this affair. I had to present two picture IDs in addition to
filing the report. This was inspite of faxing and mailing copies of the
ID to the PD as well as all pertinent information related to the
inident. They required an in person appearance to verify that yet
another party was not trying to commit fraud or ID theft. The bank
fraud case was persued because the bank filed a report and the theft of
checks/forgery was persued because the escrow company filed a report.
I'd be willing to wager that Michael will have to show up IN PERSON in
Omaha or where ever this event occurred to file reports in person. I
had to fly back from Honduras to take care of this. All of the expenses
were submitted in the event that she ever earns enough during her 10
year stint in prison to make restitution.

Sandi

Dog3 said:

"Sandi" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

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Dog3 said:

"Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Any clue as to how ----- obtained your information?
> That's something I like to know to be forewarned,
> y'know?
> Goomba
>
> SHRED, SHRED, SHRED...
>

My first info came from the credit bureau. Now my attorney is

working

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on

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it. I have had no help from the PD. I shouldn't say no help. They

did

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what

Quoted message said:

I assume is their normal procedure. So far, everything done has

been

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

by me.

Quoted message said:

The PD won't. But they are required to take a report and allow you

to

Quoted message said:

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get a copy of it. Almost every agency I dealt with required a copy

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the police report, the report number and the name of the

investigating

Quoted message said:

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officer. They don't don anything until you present them with enough
evidence to collar the person. Since it is a non violent crime, it
doesn't have a high priority.

I provided the PD with every shred of evidence they needed on my ID
theft...including the perp's home address. The bank provided the
information on the bank fraud end (as well as the info I provided

when

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I received bank statements for an account I never opened). I did it

all

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from Honduras while this was occurring in Washington state. (faxes,
emails, and Fed Ex)I made one trip back to sign papers and reports

and

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at that time the woman was already in jail awaiting trial.

Sandi

You sound way informed. I'm new. If I need help, can I email you?

Thanks

By all means, if you need any more info please email. The address is is
valid.

Sandi