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Differences in single speed freewheel threads?

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  1. After saying I was gonna do it for almost two years, I finally just
    replaced the way-too-long-for-me 175 cranks on my singlespeed commuter
    road bike with some 170s I got on eBay. The cranks are lovely, and I'd
    intended to remove the stock rings and replace them with the 46 I've
    been using. But the one thing I didn't know when I purchased them is
    that they're designed such that the 52T chainring is fused to the crank
    arm.

    Combine that with the 17t freewheel on my Suzue flipflop, and I'd be
    running a bit too rich for my spinning tastes. So for the time being, I
    bolted my old 46 back on as a second ring. But I really want the
    simplicity and clean looks of a single ring, so would like to run just
    the 52 while roughly matching the 46 X 17 ratio I was running.

    Looking at Sheldon's and other gear calculators it seem as though an
    18t is gonna be just a bit too big and a 20t a bit too small .... But
    after a little bit of looking around, I'm wondering whether those are
    my only options: I haven't seen any such animial as a 19t.

    Also, coming the long way round to the question posed in the subject,
    I've been told that for some types of freewheels (ACS), the smaller
    gears (those with 16 or more teeth) thread only on Standard English hub
    threads, while the bigger ones (those with 15T or less) only thread
    onto smaller, metric "BMX Flip-Flop" threads. Is this true of all SS
    freewheels or is it particular to ACS or BMX FWs in general?

    All of this leaves me confused as to what to look for when buying a
    replacement freewheel. Most of the singlespeed freewheel descriptions
    I've seen online don't even mention thread type.

    Is my Suzue flipflop considered a "BMX Flip-Flop?" The 17t I now have
    on the Suzue is from Shimano. Will all Shimano SS FWs have the same
    threading? Can this hub accept an ACS 18 or 20, or should I confine my
    searching to a Shimano? If that's the case, does Shimano make a 19t?

    Thanks for any help you can provide.

  2. Hmmm. I was concerned about that (or at least I became concerned about
    it after reading some of the postings in the group here.
    Couldn't I swap in a shorter BB?

  3. This guy seems to have his Centurion work using a 53X18:
    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2004/g/piggott.htm

  4. tekrider said:

    After saying I was gonna do it for almost two years, I finally just
    replaced the way-too-long-for-me 175 cranks on my singlespeed commuter
    road bike with some 170s I got on eBay. The cranks are lovely, and I'd
    intended to remove the stock rings and replace them with the 46 I've
    been using. But the one thing I didn't know when I purchased them is
    that they're designed such that the 52T chainring is fused to the crank
    arm.

    That doesn't sound too "lovely" to me, that type of construction is
    generally associated with low-end cranks.

    Quoted message said:

    I've been told that for some types of freewheels (ACS), the smaller
    gears (those with 16 or more teeth) thread only on Standard English hub
    threads, while the bigger ones (those with 15T or less) only thread
    onto smaller, metric "BMX Flip-Flop" threads. Is this true of all SS
    freewheels or is it particular to ACS or BMX FWs in general?

    That used to be true, but a couple of years ago, AC Racing figured out
    how to make a 15 tooth that would fit a standard 1.37" thread.

    All other 15s, and all 14s reqire the oddball smaller thread, due to
    clearance issues.

    Quoted message said:


    All of this leaves me confused as to what to look for when buying a
    replacement freewheel. Most of the singlespeed freewheel descriptions
    I've seen online don't even mention thread type.

    That's 'cause it's only an issue on the 14 and 15 tooth sizes.

    Quoted message said:

    Is my Suzue flipflop considered a "BMX Flip-Flop?"

    Probably not. More likely, one side will have a stepped thread to allow
    a track lockring to be used on that side. If that's the type you have,
    the main thread is the same on both sides. You could actually mount two
    different freewheels on it if you wanted different gear options, but my
    advice is to install a fixed sprocket and lockring. Once you get used
    to it, you'll say bye bye to the freewheel, 'cause fixed is a lot more fun.

    Quoted message said:

    The 17t I now have
    on the Suzue is from Shimano. Will all Shimano SS FWs have the same
    threading?

    Yes.

    Can this hub accept an ACS 18 or 20,

    Yes, it can accept anybody's freewheel in sizes larger than 15 teeth,
    with the very rare exception of the antique French size.

    See: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/singlespeed.html#freewheels

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  5. On 24 Feb 2005 11:39:17 -0800, "tekrider" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    After saying I was gonna do it for almost two years, I finally just
    replaced the way-too-long-for-me 175 cranks on my singlespeed commuter
    road bike with some 170s I got on eBay. The cranks are lovely, and I'd
    intended to remove the stock rings and replace them with the 46

    I'll give you a very favorable price on a new Sugino AT x 110 bolt
    pattern single ring crankarm with a 46t chainring. You'll need a left
    170 crankarm. The downside, the ring is annodized blue. It needs a
    home.

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