question... not a joke

Pedro Sanchez said:

Someone answer me this...
I used to do cardio almost every day. I was underweight, but I

wanted to

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stay in shape. I also lifted almost every single day. There were

little to

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no gains. Lately I have undergone a very unhealthy lifestyle change.

All I

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do anymore is drink until I'm drunk almost every night, work, eat,

sleep,

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and lift maybe 2 or 3 times a week. I am undergoing huge changes and

am at

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a very stressful point in my life.The part I'm curious about is why I

am

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making gains currently with this new plan. I have been able to lift

more

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than I ever have before and have been gaining decent amounts of

weight. I

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understand that soon this is probably all going to catch up with

me... but

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why am I making gains while living like this? My lifestyle is much
unhealthier than it was before, but currently I am benefiting from

it. Is

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it because I'm lifting less and eating more?

I would say that's it. Lifting less often, you're recovering better
than when you were overdoing it on a daily basis. Eating and sleeping
more is just icing on the cake as far as your body recovering and
growing is concerned.

Someone answer me this...
I used to do cardio almost every day. I was underweight, but I wanted to
stay in shape. I also lifted almost every single day. There were little to
no gains. Lately I have undergone a very unhealthy lifestyle change. All I
do anymore is drink until I'm drunk almost every night, work, eat, sleep,
and lift maybe 2 or 3 times a week. I am undergoing huge changes and am at
a very stressful point in my life.The part I'm curious about is why I am
making gains currently with this new plan. I have been able to lift more
than I ever have before and have been gaining decent amounts of weight. I
understand that soon this is probably all going to catch up with me... but
why am I making gains while living like this? My lifestyle is much
unhealthier than it was before, but currently I am benefiting from it. Is
it because I'm lifting less and eating more?

Pedro Sanchez said:

Someone answer me this...
I used to do cardio almost every day. I was underweight, but I

wanted to

Quoted message said:

stay in shape. I also lifted almost every single day. There were

little to

Quoted message said:

no gains. Lately I have undergone a very unhealthy lifestyle change.

All I

Quoted message said:

do anymore is drink until I'm drunk almost every night, work, eat,

sleep,

Quoted message said:

and lift maybe 2 or 3 times a week. I am undergoing huge changes and

am at

Quoted message said:

a very stressful point in my life.The part I'm curious about is why I

am

Quoted message said:

making gains currently with this new plan. I have been able to lift

more

Quoted message said:

than I ever have before and have been gaining decent amounts of

weight. I

Quoted message said:

understand that soon this is probably all going to catch up with

me... but

Quoted message said:

why am I making gains while living like this? My lifestyle is much
unhealthier than it was before, but currently I am benefiting from

it. Is

Quoted message said:

it because I'm lifting less and eating more?

How old are you?

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Lately I have undergone a very unhealthy lifestyle change. All I
do anymore is drink until I'm drunk almost every night, work, eat,
sleep, and lift maybe 2 or 3 times a week.

[SNIP]

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I understand that soon this is
probably all going to catch up with me..

Not "probably"! You will make gains but the Alcohol gives you very low
quality sleep. You wake up tired and look like you've been up all night.

It will also help you get fatter quicker (for a few different reasons),
and lock you into a deppresive state of mind as well as a depressed energy
levels.

and (assuming you dont "fix up"😉 it will punish your liver amongst other
things.

--
Lordy

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Pedro Sanchez said:

Someone answer me this...
I used to do cardio almost every day. I was underweight, but I

wanted to

Quoted message said:

stay in shape. I also lifted almost every single day. There were

little to

Quoted message said:

no gains. Lately I have undergone a very unhealthy lifestyle change.

All I

Quoted message said:

do anymore is drink until I'm drunk almost every night, work, eat,

sleep,

Quoted message said:

and lift maybe 2 or 3 times a week. I am undergoing huge changes and

am at

Quoted message said:

a very stressful point in my life.The part I'm curious about is why I

am

Quoted message said:

making gains currently with this new plan. I have been able to lift

more

Quoted message said:

than I ever have before and have been gaining decent amounts of

weight. I

Quoted message said:

understand that soon this is probably all going to catch up with

me... but

Quoted message said:

why am I making gains while living like this? My lifestyle is much
unhealthier than it was before, but currently I am benefiting from

it. Is

Quoted message said:

it because I'm lifting less and eating more?

How old are you?

23.

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"Pedro Sanchez" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Lately I have undergone a very unhealthy lifestyle change. All I
do anymore is drink until I'm drunk almost every night, work, eat,
sleep, and lift maybe 2 or 3 times a week.

[SNIP]

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I understand that soon this is
probably all going to catch up with me..

Not "probably"! You will make gains but the Alcohol gives you very low
quality sleep. You wake up tired and look like you've been up all night.

It will also help you get fatter quicker (for a few different reasons),
and lock you into a deppresive state of mind as well as a depressed energy
levels.

and (assuming you dont "fix up"😉 it will punish your liver amongst other
things.

--
Lordy

Yeah... I've read the literature on this also... but for some reason this is
not the case for me. That's why I'm so curious about this. It seems to be
having the opposite effect with me.

Pedro Sanchez said:

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"Pedro Sanchez" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Lately I have undergone a very unhealthy lifestyle change. All I
do anymore is drink until I'm drunk almost every night, work, eat,
sleep, and lift maybe 2 or 3 times a week.

[SNIP]

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I understand that soon this is
probably all going to catch up with me..

Not "probably"! You will make gains but the Alcohol gives you very low
quality sleep. You wake up tired and look like you've been up all night.

It will also help you get fatter quicker (for a few different reasons),
and lock you into a deppresive state of mind as well as a depressed energy
levels.

and (assuming you dont "fix up"😉 it will punish your liver amongst other
things.

--
Lordy

Yeah... I've read the literature on this also... but for some reason this is
not the case for me. That's why I'm so curious about this. It seems to be
having the opposite effect with me.

IMO, it's the absence of cardio, and the reduced frequency with the
lifting. Lifting heavy every other day, while getting plenty of sleep
and calories is a good prescription for getting big and strong.

But he's right about the alcohol. It will catch up with you
eventually. You'll probably make even better gains now if you just
cut it down to say 3 drinks a night.

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Proton Soup

"Thanks for noticing that I didn't actually say anything." - Mike Lane

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"Pedro Sanchez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Yeah... I've read the literature on this also... but for some reason this

is

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not the case for me. That's why I'm so curious about this. It seems to

be

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having the opposite effect with me.

Well I don't know how you do things down in Juarez, Ped-ro...but here in MFW
we have a little something called 'respect'.

Jim, your PC clock is about 24 hours in advance!!

Have a great weekend - you know I will!! ;o)

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Not "probably"! You will make gains but the Alcohol gives you very
low quality sleep. You wake up tired and look like you've been up all
night.

It will also help you get fatter quicker (for a few different
reasons), and lock you into a deppresive state of mind as well as a
depressed energy levels.

and (assuming you dont "fix up"😉 it will punish your liver amongst
other things.

--
Lordy

Yeah... I've read the literature on this also... but for some reason

Its not academic!

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this is not the case for me.

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That's why I'm so curious about this.
It seems to be having the opposite effect with me.

Er. Didnt your OP allude to general low energy levels. Sleeping all the
time. Etc. Sure you can train but if you feel lazy the rest of the time ??
I dont see where anything you described is "opposite" to what I said. Could
you clarify?

Also, when you liver is getting punished you dont feel anything straight
away. If you dont go to the doctor, keep a close "eye" in the appearance of
the whites of your eyes. Esp when sober.

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Lordy

maybe you're drunk and just think you're lifting more

you sound drunk, because you said
"I have been able to lift more than I ever have before"
"I'm lifting less and eating more"

on a less jovial note (though maybe making an ass of myself)

beer probably has a lot of calories - though i imagine it's mostly fat
.. Maybe the calories from beer are helping?! No doubt there are
better sources of calories. The beer would be a factor in your weight
gain.

the main thing is as ppl said, the exercising every day was
overtraining.

You may have made a new discovery, it's remotely possible that the
alcohol is helping you lift because of its neurological effect.
A big factor in how much you lift is neurological- you can get really
strong without increasing muscle mass (Steve Freides is doing it - not
using alcohol though).
So maybe the alcohol is having some positive neurological effect. I
doubt it though, because it shouldn't cause your brain to recruit
muscle fibres better or in greater numbers.

I strongly suggest you join a support group or get advice somehow about
quitting your alcohol addiction. Also, it would test if the alcohol is
helping the lifting - though I doubt that it is, and it's not worth the
other ill effects. You can get strong enough working out every other
day without alcohol. Try it! I think you'll probably increase your
lifts once you get rid of the alcohol and replace it with equivalent
high calory food.

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maybe you're drunk and just think you're lifting more

you sound drunk, because you said
"I have been able to lift more than I ever have before"
"I'm lifting less and eating more"

less often not less weight.

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on a less jovial note (though maybe making an ass of myself)

beer probably has a lot of calories - though i imagine it's mostly fat

No Alcohol

.. Maybe the calories from beer are helping?! No doubt there are

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better sources of calories.

Hell yeah

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The beer would be a factor in your weight
gain.

the main thing is as ppl said, the exercising every day was
overtraining.

Not necessarily but in this case it was certainly hurting gains.

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You may have made a new discovery, it's remotely possible that the
alcohol is helping you lift because of its neurological effect.

??

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A big factor in how much you lift is neurological- you can get really
strong without increasing muscle mass (Steve Freides is doing it - not
using alcohol though).
So maybe the alcohol is having some positive neurological effect. I
doubt it though, because it shouldn't cause your brain to recruit
muscle fibres better or in greater numbers.

The guy is simply getting more calories and training less often. A good
way to get gains. However the Alcohol abuse will bite him hard. Luckily
he's young and has time to avoid serious liver damage. Unfortunately, he
also thinks he's impervious to the long term effects of alcohol abouse.
Let's hope that changes.

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I strongly suggest you join a support group or get advice somehow
about quitting your alcohol addiction.

I strongly suggest they first try to butch up and sort out the problem
themselves before dealing with all the stigma associated with other
approaches.

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Also, it would test if the alcohol is
helping the lifting - though I doubt that it is, and it's not worth
the other ill effects. You can get strong enough working out every
other day without alcohol. Try it! I think you'll probably increase
your lifts once you get rid of the alcohol and replace it with
equivalent high calory food.

--
Lordy

"Pedro Sanchez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Yeah... I've read the literature on this also... but for some reason this

is

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not the case for me. That's why I'm so curious about this. It seems to

be

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having the opposite effect with me.

Well I don't know how you do things down in Juarez, Ped-ro...but here in MFW
we have a little something called 'respect'.

"Pedro Sanchez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Yeah... I've read the literature on this also... but for some reason this

is

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not the case for me. That's why I'm so curious about this. It seems to

be

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having the opposite effect with me.

Well I don't know how you do things down in Juarez, Ped-ro...but here in MFW
we have a little something called 'respect'.