Best Strength Training Program/Book

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What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.

Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
stream-of-consciousness style.

PTTP is pretty good. Pricey for what you get, but a good simple program..

If you are more scientific minded and can do the application yourself
Zatsiorsky's 'Science and Practise of Strength Training' is excellent. It
explains pretty much all the principles that Pavel uses in PTTP. It also
has suggestions for strength development in a variety of applications. But
it doesn't lay a program out - you have to develop your own.

Ok, I'll check it out. Thanks for the info.

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Quoted message said:

What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.

Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
stream-of-consciousness style.

Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has an
effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and diet
considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types, etc..

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John said:

"tabber" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.

Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
stream-of-consciousness style.

Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has an
effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and diet
considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types, etc..

Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".

Atlas wept.

--
Keith

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John said:

"tabber" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.

Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
stream-of-consciousness style.

Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has

an

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and

diet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types,

etc..

Quoted message said:

Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".

Atlas wept.

Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.

tabber said:

What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.

Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
stream-of-consciousness style.

PTTP and NW are great. Pavel's latest book is Beyond Bodybuilding.
http://www.dragondoor.com/b31.html?c=pu-b31-02#order

Index http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313500/

Table of Contents
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313506/

John said:

Hobbes said:

John said:

"tabber" wrote:

>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>stream-of-consciousness style.

Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
training and diet considerations.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
Atlas wept.

Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.

There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..

In article <[email hidden]>, Jeff Finlayson

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John said:

Hobbes said:

"John" wrote:
>"tabber" wrote:
>
>>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>>
>>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>>stream-of-consciousness style.
>
>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
>training and diet considerations.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
Atlas wept.

Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.

There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..

First time anyone has ever accused me of being a bodybuilder...

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"Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".

Atlas wept.

Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.

'feeling and looking good' is not necessarily compatible with being good at
any sport. I want to be good at lightweight rowing, so I need to have big
legs, some core strength, and some lats and biceps, but most other muscles I
want as small as possible because they won't help me move the boat. So I do
not look particularly good. A lot of the time I feel tired, possibly sore or
stiff, and when I'm competing I need to make weight, so I have to diet,
which isn't liable to make me feel good.

Now, I need to follow a weights programme, because I need to be able to
produce a lot of power to get the boat moving as fast as possible. If I
follow a routine out of Men's Health, I will find that I am working a whole
lot of muscles I don't need to work, those muscles will grow, and I will
either fail to make weight or have to dehydrate and mess around more to do
it, either of which is bad.

'small nuts' comes from taking drugs, which is also known as cheating, and
liable to get you thrown out of most sports.

Peter

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"tabber" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
> free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
> the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
> these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
> strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
> stream-of-consciousness style.

Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only has

an

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength training and

diet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

considerations. It explains the different muscles, different types,

etc..

Quoted message said:

Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".

Atlas wept.

Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.

Aimed at yer typical beer gut, couch potato looking to get into / back
into better shape.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Jeff Finlayson

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John said:

"Hobbes" wrote:
>"John" wrote:
>>"tabber" wrote:
>>
>>>What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
>>>free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
>>>the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
>>>these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
>>>strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.
>>>
>>>Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
>>>stream-of-consciousness style.
>>
>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
>>training and diet considerations.

Quoted message said:

>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>Atlas wept.

Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and

look

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.

There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..

First time anyone has ever accused me of being a bodybuilder...

Dood. We have your confession on tape. And I'm sure someone, somewhere has
pictures...

Hugh

--
Run like hell and let the clowns deal with the bull.

Hobbes said:

Jeff Finlayson said:

John said:

"Hobbes" wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>Men's Health put out a great one: "The Book of Muscle." It not only
>>has an effective program, it goes into the physiology of strength
>>training and diet considerations.

Quoted message said:

>Dude. "Men's Health" and "strength".
>Atlas wept.

Ah...the ignorance. Men's Health is for the guy wanting to feel and look
good, not for the competition bodybuilder that wants small nuts.

There's even more. Feeling and looking good are not strength..

First time anyone has ever accused me of being a bodybuilder...

Yea, and a competition one too, gee...

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tabber said:

What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.

Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
stream-of-consciousness style.

PTTP and NW are great. Pavel's latest book is Beyond Bodybuilding.
http://www.dragondoor.com/b31.html?c=pu-b31-02#order

Index http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313500/

Table of Contents
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313506/

How do you compare this book with his PTTP book?

Is this book for pwerlifting or for general body building?

tabber said:

kettleballs

heh

Yeah, forget those kettle*balls*. Nothing beats a good ol' Olympic set
of weights.

But regarding a book or program, I'm a fan of _Powerlifting: A
Scientific Approach_ by Fredrick C. Hatfield, Ph.D.

Rockin' good read.

--
Curt
http://www.emusclemag.com/forum/
http://www.bbszene.de/

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:37:32 -0800, "fj" <[email hidden]>

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tabber said:

What is the best strength training program or book out there? I have
free weights and I don't want to buy kettleballs. I'm thinking along
the lines of Pavel's Naked Warrior or PTTP program. Has anyone used
these programs? If so what were your results? My main priority is
strength. I'm not against gaining mass, but strength is #1.

Thanks for any suggestions and reading through my
stream-of-consciousness style.

PTTP and NW are great. Pavel's latest book is Beyond Bodybuilding.
http://www.dragondoor.com/b31.html?c=pu-b31-02#order

Index http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313500/

Table of Contents
http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/313506/

How do you compare this book with his PTTP book?

Is this book for pwerlifting or for general body building?

I've just started reading BB. Pavel describes it as a sequel to PTTP.
Pavel is first and foremost about strength training. This book would
be great for bodybuilders who want to be as strong as they look.