NATURAL post workout meal?

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Hey everyone

What are you eating post-workout (weights)? I want something "natural"
such as bananas, peanut butter, etc, versus scoops of [censored] powder, etc

Tuna (in water) straight from the can.

--
Jerry

Jerry said:

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Hey everyone

What are you eating post-workout (weights)? I want something

"natural"

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such as bananas, peanut butter, etc, versus scoops of [censored] powder,

etc

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Tuna (in water) straight from the can.

--
Jerry

Gotta watch out for eating too much tuna though. I was eating about
4-6 cans of albacore tuna (loved that stuff) per week a couple of years
ago and happened to read something about relatlively high mercury
levels in certain fish. I was curious what my blood level was, so I
went and got a blood mercury level test. It was slightly high at ~19
mcg/L, when it said it should be below 14 mcg/L. This was done through
my student health center through the lab they dealt with, which is very
reputable and used all over. Still, I know there can be some
controversy over blood mercury level testing. I'm honestly not clear
on whether it's the exposure you've had a few days before the test or
whether it's more longer term, but I know a lot of people say the test
can be affected by what you ate 2-3 days before. All I know is, I had
followed my normal tuna diet (actually, hadn't had any the day before
the test I believe) and my blood level was slightly high. So, I
stopped eating tuna and switched to alaskan sockeye salmon. Way more
expensive, but the next time I took my follow up mercury test about 72
days later (supposedly, although I've seen different figures for this,
the half-life of mercury in the blood is 72 days) the test showed I was
within normal levels at about ~9 mcg/L. I've tried to stick to alaskan
sockeye salmon as much as possible since then. I have eaten canned
tuna every now and then, and sometimes I'll buy Vital Choice
(www.vitalchoice.com) brand canned tuna, which is supposedly smaller
caught fish hence less mercury. But really just don't go overboard.
Also, the brown tuna has supposedly less mercury than the
albacore/white. Still, I wouldn't be eating it everyday.

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Hey everyone

What are you eating post-workout (weights)? I want something "natural"
such as bananas, peanut butter, etc, versus scoops of [censored] powder, etc

I am on the Bill Pearl 20-month program, discussed here

http://www.billpearl.com/bpprograms.asp

thanks!

** by the way, I tend to workout at night, about 2 hours after dinner,
or in late morning, 2 hours after breakfast

I work out, then go home for dinner. Dinner is usually a 50g protein shake
in 1 cup skim milk, then a huge salad. I usually do a pre-workout shake as
well, but with the addition of a banana or similar fruit in a blender. I
also eat a lot of turkey or chicken. I just try to get at least 130g of
protein per day. If I'm low, I do a shake. Simple.

You shouldn't discount the shakes. It's a great way to supplement your
protein. Not only that, but the BV of whey protein is about as good as it
gets.
--
-Larry

The Whey Protein powders seem to have a bit much cholesterol. Maybe I
am wrong on this, but 15% Daily Value or more in one drink?

What is a good general purpose post-workout balance between carbs and
protein? I am 180 pound male, medium build.

Seems like 40 gram protein/80-100 gram complex carbs is the general
guideline...comments?

Bill said:

The Whey Protein powders seem to have a bit much cholesterol. Maybe I
am wrong on this, but 15% Daily Value or more in one drink?

What is a good general purpose post-workout balance between carbs and
protein? I am 180 pound male, medium build.

Seems like 40 gram protein/80-100 gram complex carbs is the general
guideline...comments?

Here's an article for you to read.
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hsn_artcls_prepostnutri.html

"It is recommended that at least 0.7 - 1.0 gram of carbohydrate per
kilogram body weight be consumed immediately after exercise and then
again 1-2 hours later."

It's a fairly large article so by all means go read it and take what
you will out of it.

Anyway, elsewhere in the article, Brian states that the amount of
carbs largely depends on the nature of your training.
I think he's applying the .7-1.0 grams/kg to his training system which
is a full body work out.
Since the purpose of pwo carbs is glycogen recovery, I take from that,
that less carb is called for, for less than a full body work out.
I usually use 1/3 - 1/2 protein:carbs.

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Hey everyone

What are you eating post-workout (weights)? I want something "natural"

Define natural.

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such as bananas, peanut butter, etc, versus scoops of [censored] powder, etc

Then what you are trying to say is you want to use whole food vs
supplemental products (eg, powders).

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I am on the Bill Pearl 20-month program, discussed here

If you are on a program you like, stick with that.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

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Bill said:

The Whey Protein powders seem to have a bit much cholesterol.

Eh?

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Maybe I
am wrong on this, but 15% Daily Value or more in one drink?

No idea where you get that figure from, but the isolate I use has 0.1%
of daily recommended cholesterol. Second, dietary cholesterol is not the
boogie man it was made out to be anyway.

Quoted message said:

What is a good general purpose post-workout balance between carbs and
protein? I am 180 pound male, medium build.

Seems like 40 gram protein/80-100 gram complex carbs is the general
guideline...comments?

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

xyzer said:

(supposedly, although I've seen different figures
for this, the half-life of mercury in the blood is 72 days) the test
showed I was within normal levels at about ~9 mcg/L.

Isn't mercury a cumulative toxin, i.e. it doesn't really leave your body,
or if it does, it's half-life is a lot longer than 72 years?

--
Pete

Peter Stilt said:

xyzer said:

(supposedly, although I've seen different figures
for this, the half-life of mercury in the blood is 72 days) the

test

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showed I was within normal levels at about ~9 mcg/L.

Isn't mercury a cumulative toxin, i.e. it doesn't really leave your

body,

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or if it does, it's half-life is a lot longer than 72 years?

--
Pete

Well, I was talking about half-life in the blood itself. When it
leaves the blood, it doesn't necessarily leave the body.

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So, I
stopped eating tuna and switched to alaskan sockeye salmon. Way more
expensive,

**WARNING**WARNING**WARNING**

Don't eat farmed salmon. Just don't do it. Don't. No. Stop. I'm serious.
Pink Salmon is the most commonly farmed and it should say on the label
whether it is wild or not. It's worth the extra money for the wild stuff.

This has been a public service anouncement from a concerned British
Columbian. I will now continue to lurk.

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So, I
stopped eating tuna and switched to alaskan sockeye salmon. Way more
expensive,

**WARNING**WARNING**WARNING**

Don't eat farmed salmon. Just don't do it. Don't. No. Stop. I'm serious.
Pink Salmon is the most commonly farmed and it should say on the label
whether it is wild or not. It's worth the extra money for the wild stuff.

This has been a public service anouncement from a concerned British
Columbian. I will now continue to lurk.

Why?

Azul Funk said:

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So, I
stopped eating tuna and switched to alaskan sockeye salmon. Way

more

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expensive,

**WARNING**WARNING**WARNING**

Don't eat farmed salmon. Just don't do it. Don't. No. Stop. I'm

serious.

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Pink Salmon is the most commonly farmed and it should say on the

label

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whether it is wild or not. It's worth the extra money for the wild

stuff.

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This has been a public service anouncement from a concerned British
Columbian. I will now continue to lurk.

Yeah, I should have mentioned that it's best to stay away from the
farmed stuff. Most (if not all) canned salmon I think is actually
wild-caught, but check the label just to be sure. However, most fresh
and frozen is usually farmed. Really, ordering over the internet is
very expensive but probably worth it. I use www.vitalchoice.com
whenver I can afford it, but it can hurt the pocketbook.

Azul Funk said:

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So, I
stopped eating tuna and switched to alaskan sockeye salmon. Way more
expensive,

**WARNING**WARNING**WARNING**

Don't eat farmed salmon. Just don't do it. Don't. No. Stop. I'm serious.
Pink Salmon is the most commonly farmed and it should say on the label
whether it is wild or not. It's worth the extra money for the wild stuff.

This has been a public service anouncement from a concerned British
Columbian.

AKA Sockeye-stealing flappy-headed mutants

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So, I
stopped eating tuna and switched to alaskan sockeye salmon. Way more
expensive,

**WARNING**WARNING**WARNING**

Don't eat farmed salmon. Just don't do it. Don't. No. Stop. I'm serious.
Pink Salmon is the most commonly farmed and it should say on the label
whether it is wild or not. It's worth the extra money for the wild stuff.

This has been a public service anouncement from a concerned British
Columbian. I will now continue to lurk.

Why?

Fish politics, but mostly for health. I could write a novel about this, but
the gist of it is that farmed salmon are drugged and fed garbage food,
therefore aren't as tasty or nutritious as wild fish and are said to be
toxic by some concerned parties.

http://www.farmedanddangerous.org/farm_issues.htm

also, in the interest of journalistic balance:

http://www.salmonfarmers.org/

Anecdotally, as an avid boater and sportsfisherman, I can tell you that wild
Salmon Stocks have seen a SHARP drop in the past decade or so, since the
institution of Salmon farms on the BC coast.
It's looking like the early stages of what has happened in Scottland. This
BBC article is the most reputable source I could find
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/2948720.stm , but I had a chat
with a Scottish marine biologist this time last year and he said that there
is little doubt in anyone's mind by now that aquaculture has ruined the wild
stocks.

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Azul Funk said:

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So, I
stopped eating tuna and switched to alaskan sockeye salmon. Way more
expensive,

**WARNING**WARNING**WARNING**

Don't eat farmed salmon. Just don't do it. Don't. No. Stop. I'm serious.
Pink Salmon is the most commonly farmed and it should say on the label
whether it is wild or not. It's worth the extra money for the wild stuff.

i don't know if the legislation is specific to WA state or federal, but here
in WA all farm raised salmon is labeled as such

imo, it's not worth the extra money for the wild stuff. when the market
meets my expectations (ie wild salmon gets cheaper) i'll buy it

whit

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This has been a public service anouncement from a concerned British
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AKA Sockeye-stealing flappy-headed mutants

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Azul Funk said:

> So, I
> stopped eating tuna and switched to alaskan sockeye salmon. Way more
> expensive,

**WARNING**WARNING**WARNING**

Don't eat farmed salmon. Just don't do it. Don't. No. Stop. I'm serious.
Pink Salmon is the most commonly farmed and it should say on the label
whether it is wild or not. It's worth the extra money for the wild stuff.

i don't know if the legislation is specific to WA state or federal, but
here in WA all farm raised salmon is labeled as such

imo, it's not worth the extra money for the wild stuff. when the market
meets my expectations (ie wild salmon gets cheaper) i'll buy it

Don't hold your breath.
More salmon farms = less wild salmon (just like Scottalnd and Norway)
Less wild salmon = supply side deficiency creating a higher price.
Higher price for wild salmon = less demand = (likely) more demand for farmed
salmon

More demand for farmed salmon = more salmon farms (see above.)

Dontcha see? You're ruining an industry that has been the staple of the
Northwest for hundreds of thousands of years by buying and eating farmed
salmon.

Also, now they're doing the same stupid thing with sablefish:
http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=7070

It's up to concerned consumers to stop this madness.

Azul Funk said:

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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:56:55 GMT, "Azul Funk"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>> So, I
>> stopped eating tuna and switched to alaskan sockeye salmon. Way more
>> expensive,
>
>**WARNING**WARNING**WARNING**
>
>Don't eat farmed salmon. Just don't do it. Don't. No. Stop. I'm serious.
>Pink Salmon is the most commonly farmed and it should say on the label
>whether it is wild or not. It's worth the extra money for the wild stuff.
>

i don't know if the legislation is specific to WA state or federal, but
here in WA all farm raised salmon is labeled as such

imo, it's not worth the extra money for the wild stuff. when the market
meets my expectations (ie wild salmon gets cheaper) i'll buy it

Don't hold your breath.
More salmon farms = less wild salmon (just like Scottalnd and Norway)
Less wild salmon = supply side deficiency creating a higher price.
Higher price for wild salmon = less demand = (likely) more demand for farmed
salmon

More demand for farmed salmon = more salmon farms (see above.)

Dontcha see? You're ruining an industry that has been the staple of the
Northwest for hundreds of thousands of years by buying and eating farmed
salmon.

Also, now they're doing the same stupid thing with sablefish:
http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=7070

It's up to concerned consumers to stop this madness.

If there weren't a demand for salmon, there wouldn't be a demand for
farmed salmon. Just convince people that salmon is bad for them and
you'll have solved your problem.

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"Thanks for noticing that I didn't actually say anything." - Mike Lane

Quoted message said:

Hey everyone

What are you eating post-workout (weights)? I want something "natural"
such as bananas, peanut butter, etc, versus scoops of [censored] powder, etc

I am on the Bill Pearl 20-month program, discussed here

http://www.billpearl.com/bpprograms.asp

thanks!

** by the way, I tend to workout at night, about 2 hours after dinner,
or in late morning, 2 hours after breakfast

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