Essential supplies

Rob Overfield said:

Given as how I will be doing the 3 Peaks walk in June, can anyone give me
some sensible ideas on what to take in my pack? I'm only used to doing
short 5-10 mile jaunts and would rather ask you experts, rather than rely on
books.

I'm assuming plenty of water, a good fleece jacket and waterproofs as
standard but what else would be sensible? What would be better for snacks
en route etc? Dried fruit, or what?

Anything energy-giving: Kendal Mint Cake and Mars Bars are my
favourites, though others find these mess up their blood sugar levels.
Too much dried fruit can have a laxative effect.

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Fran said:

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Quoted message said:

What would be better for snacks

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en route etc? Dried fruit, or what?

Anything energy-giving: Kendal Mint Cake and Mars Bars are my
favourites, though others find these mess up their blood sugar levels.
Too much dried fruit can have a laxative effect.

But be aware that what you're getting with mint cake and Mars
etc is simple carbohydrate, i.e. a quick fix. For more
sustained energy you need complex carbohydrate, e.g. bananas
(except they tend not travel well) or biscuits or even
sandwiches, if you think you can stand it. Or you could take
the extreme view and pack a tub of margarine or butter and a
bag of sugar...

Banana butties used to be one of the things my mum packed for us for a
day on the hill. Plus a slab of home-made mince & oat pie. This is
delicious - I'd make one right now if we had the ingredients.

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[email hidden] said...

Quoted message said:

What would be better for snacks

Quoted message said:

en route etc? Dried fruit, or what?

Anything energy-giving: Kendal Mint Cake and Mars Bars are my
favourites, though others find these mess up their blood sugar levels.
Too much dried fruit can have a laxative effect.

But be aware that what you're getting with mint cake and Mars
etc is simple carbohydrate, i.e. a quick fix. For more
sustained energy you need complex carbohydrate, e.g. bananas
(except they tend not travel well) or biscuits or even
sandwiches, if you think you can stand it. Or you could take
the extreme view and pack a tub of margarine or butter and a
bag of sugar...
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Rooney said:

Banana butties used to be one of the things my mum packed for us for a
day on the hill. Plus a slab of home-made mince & oat pie. This is
delicious - I'd make one right now if we had the ingredients.

Mince & oat pie? You've got me curious - any chance of a recipe?

druidh

Fran said:

[email hidden] said...

Quoted message said:

What would be better for snacks

Quoted message said:

en route etc? Dried fruit, or what?

Anything energy-giving: Kendal Mint Cake and Mars Bars are my
favourites, though others find these mess up their blood sugar levels.
Too much dried fruit can have a laxative effect.

But be aware that what you're getting with mint cake and Mars
etc is simple carbohydrate, i.e. a quick fix. For more
sustained energy you need complex carbohydrate, e.g. bananas
(except they tend not travel well)

You need a bananaguard. . .

or biscuits or even

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sandwiches, if you think you can stand it. Or you could take
the extreme view and pack a tub of margarine or butter and a
bag of sugar...

Peanut butter and honey sandwiches, hmmmmmmmmmm

druidh

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:44:41 GMT, druidh <[email hidden]>

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Rooney said:

Banana butties used to be one of the things my mum packed for us for a
day on the hill. Plus a slab of home-made mince & oat pie. This is
delicious - I'd make one right now if we had the ingredients.

Mince & oat pie? You've got me curious - any chance of a recipe?

druidh

1lb minced beef
4 cups oats
2 tbsp tomato sauce
1 large onion, chopped
salt & pepper
quantity of short pastry

Roll out pastry. Mix ingredients. Fill botton half of pastry and cover
with top half. Bake at mark 6 for 35 mins approx. Serve cold. Lovely.

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:45:35 GMT, druidh <[email hidden]>

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Fran said:

[email hidden] said...

Quoted message said:

What would be better for snacks

>en route etc? Dried fruit, or what?

Anything energy-giving: Kendal Mint Cake and Mars Bars are my
favourites, though others find these mess up their blood sugar levels.
Too much dried fruit can have a laxative effect.

But be aware that what you're getting with mint cake and Mars
etc is simple carbohydrate, i.e. a quick fix. For more
sustained energy you need complex carbohydrate, e.g. bananas
(except they tend not travel well)

You need a bananaguard. . .

or biscuits or even

Quoted message said:

sandwiches, if you think you can stand it. Or you could take
the extreme view and pack a tub of margarine or butter and a
bag of sugar...

Peanut butter and honey sandwiches, hmmmmmmmmmm

druidh

And when you get back off the hill, a quick Cumberland Rarebit (I
don't know whether mum made this up or got it from a book):
Bowl of boiled rice, top up with as much Heinz tomato soup as will fit
in, pile a heap of grated, strong cheddar on top. Wolf it down. Sit by
fire. Finish off with *buttered* soda bread made earlier same day.
Reach for can of Stella....

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I tend to look at the what happens if and would suggest the following -

A basic first aid kit. Mine includes a couple of triangular bandages (so
versatile), a resuci-aid (so necessary), protective gloves and, of course,
plasters. You may never need these items but it's useful to have them just
in case.

A whistle

A compass

A mobile phone (you may be lucky enough to get a signal when wanted in an
emergency)

A full (top and bottom) cagoule. Yes, even in June

An additional layer of clothing (just in case you under estimate the
temperature drop of the higher altitudes)

Have a good time!!

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway

"Rob Overfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Given as how I will be doing the 3 Peaks walk in June, can anyone give me
some sensible ideas on what to take in my pack? I'm only used to doing
short 5-10 mile jaunts and would rather ask you experts, rather than rely
on
books.

I'm assuming plenty of water, a good fleece jacket and waterproofs as
standard but what else would be sensible? What would be better for snacks
en route etc? Dried fruit, or what?

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Rob Overfield

"Seasons don't fear the reaper, Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain.."

Bill Ridgeway said:

I tend to look at the what happens if and would suggest the following
-

A basic first aid kit. Mine includes a couple of triangular bandages
(so versatile), a resuci-aid (so necessary), protective gloves and,
of course, plasters. You may never need these items but it's useful
to have them just in case.

A whistle

A compass

A mobile phone (you may be lucky enough to get a signal when wanted
in an emergency)

A full (top and bottom) cagoule. Yes, even in June

An additional layer of clothing (just in case you under estimate the
temperature drop of the higher altitudes)

Have a good time!!

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway

Thanks Bill, thats great, in fact thanks aall of you. Now I just have to
get the miles in, during the next 3 months!
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Rob Overfield

"Seasons don't fear the reaper, Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain.."

Robert Hill said:

"Rob Overfield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Given as how I will be doing the 3 Peaks walk in June, can anyone
give me some sensible ideas on what to take in my pack? I'm only
used to doing short 5-10 mile jaunts and would rather ask you
experts, rather than rely on
books.

I'm assuming plenty of water, a good fleece jacket and waterproofs as
standard but what else would be sensible? What would be better for
snacks en route etc? Dried fruit, or what?

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As an expert ,I think you're entirely correct not to rely on books as
they're v. heavy and not easily digestible. I would take a fast car
and a gold card.

LOL! Nice one.
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Rob Overfield

"Seasons don't fear the reaper, Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain.."

Fran <[email hidden]> writes

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But be aware that what you're getting with mint cake and Mars
etc is simple carbohydrate, i.e. a quick fix. For more
sustained energy you need complex carbohydrate, e.g. bananas
(except they tend not travel well)

I just checked my fruit bowl, my bananas are fine and they've travelled
all the way from Del Monte, wherever that is, Carribean or somewhere, I
suppose.
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Gordon Harris

Fran wrote on Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:20:04 -0000....

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For more
sustained energy you need complex carbohydrate, e.g. bananas
(except they tend not travel well) or biscuits or even
sandwiches, if you think you can stand it. Or you could take
the extreme view and pack a tub of margarine or butter and a
bag of sugar...

Why not include a bag of flour and suitable cooking equipment so you
can stop half way and bake a cake?

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Rob Overfield said:

Given as how I will be doing the 3 Peaks walk in June, can anyone give me
some sensible ideas on what to take in my pack? I'm only used to doing
short 5-10 mile jaunts and would rather ask you experts, rather than rely on
books.

I'm assuming plenty of water, a good fleece jacket and waterproofs as
standard but what else would be sensible? What would be better for snacks
en route etc? Dried fruit, or what?

As little as possible. Be guided by the weather, if it's 25 C you
won't need a thick fleece, perhaps a thin one as a maximum. And if
there's no rain forecast then don't bother with overtrousers (I
wouldn't in the summer even if rain were forecast but maybe not a good
idea!). You don't need *that* much water, you can refill from
streams. I take dried fruit/nuts for snacks - I usually take
sandwiches too and usually bring them back untouched.

As a rule of thumb, I'd say that you shouldn't take anything more
(except perhaps a little food) than you take on a normal !0 mile
jaunt. Ideally, I'd take less, as you'll get more tired and by the
end of the day any reduction in weight will be welcome. But knowing
what it's safe to leave out is one of these things that only usually
comes with the experience of carrying too much :-)

Have fun

Simon

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Bill Ridgeway said:

A basic first aid kit. Mine includes a couple of triangular bandages (so
versatile), a resuci-aid (so necessary), protective gloves and, of course,
plasters. You may never need these items but it's useful to have them just
in case.

Unless you don't have the training to know what to do with them, in
which case they're a waste of time :-)

Anything that you take 'just in case' is IMHO a candidate for leaving
at home

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A full (top and bottom) cagoule. Yes, even in June

As I said in my other reply, I'd question the need for overtrousers
(depending on weather). As long as your trousers are quick-drying
and/or warm when wet (eg ron hills or powerstretch)

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An additional layer of clothing (just in case you under estimate the
temperature drop of the higher altitudes)

Or, preferably, get enough experience that you can correctly estimate
the temperature drop.

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Have a good time!!

Even if it's only good in retrospect ;-)

Simon

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:28:45 -0000, "Bill Ridgeway"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

| I tend to look at the what happens if and would suggest the following -
|
| A basic first aid kit. Mine includes a couple of triangular bandages (so
| versatile), a resuci-aid (so necessary),

I carry a blue mask with a one way valve thingy on my key ring at all
times.

| protective gloves and, of course,

my latex gloves are in my executive bum bag which I have with me at all
times.

| plasters. You may never need these items but it's useful to have them just
| in case.

An OS Explorer map of the area.

| A whistle
|
| A compass

A GPS and roamer

Swiss army knife which is on my key ring.

A few cable ties which are always in my bum bag.

Half a dozen sheets of kitchen roll, multi use ;-) always in my bum bag

| A mobile phone (you may be lucky enough to get a signal when wanted in an
| emergency)

I have to go *up* hill to get a signal :-((((

| A full (top and bottom) cagoule. Yes, even in June
|
| An additional layer of clothing (just in case you under estimate the
| temperature drop of the higher altitudes)

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:37:28 +0000, Simon Caldwell
<[email hidden]> wrote:

| As little as possible. Be guided by the weather, if it's 25 C you
| won't need a thick fleece, perhaps a thin one as a maximum. And if
| there's no rain forecast then don't bother with overtrousers (I
| wouldn't in the summer even if rain were forecast but maybe not a good
| idea!). You don't need *that* much water, you can refill from
| streams. I take dried fruit/nuts for snacks - I usually take
| sandwiches too and usually bring them back untouched.
|
| As a rule of thumb, I'd say that you shouldn't take anything more
| (except perhaps a little food) than you take on a normal !0 mile
| jaunt. Ideally, I'd take less, as you'll get more tired and by the
| end of the day any reduction in weight will be welcome. But knowing
| what it's safe to leave out is one of these things that only usually
| comes with the experience of carrying too much :-)

There are now little vans all over the dales selling ice cream, snacks

etc.

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not to mention the pubs and shops.

Ah, but they don't sell slices of Malt Loaf with butter on - an essential
supply of the first order!

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Bob Mannix said:

"Dave Fawthrop" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Simon Caldwell said:

As little as possible. Be guided by the weather, if it's 25 C you
won't need a thick fleece, perhaps a thin one as a maximum. And if
there's no rain forecast then don't bother with overtrousers (I
wouldn't in the summer even if rain were forecast but maybe not a
good idea!). You don't need *that* much water, you can refill from
streams. I take dried fruit/nuts for snacks - I usually take
sandwiches too and usually bring them back untouched.

As a rule of thumb, I'd say that you shouldn't take anything more
(except perhaps a little food) than you take on a normal !0 mile
jaunt. Ideally, I'd take less, as you'll get more tired and by the
end of the day any reduction in weight will be welcome. But knowing
what it's safe to leave out is one of these things that only usually
comes with the experience of carrying too much :-)

There are now little vans all over the dales selling ice cream,
snacks etc. not to mention the pubs and shops.

Ah, but they don't sell slices of Malt Loaf with butter on - an
essential supply of the first order!

Slices? With butter? What happened to taking the hwole loaf and eating it
like a chocolate bar - much nicer that way!

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GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
wonderful person Dave Fawthrop <[email hidden]> said
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my latex gloves are in my executive bum

That's a really dodgy juxta-positioning of words you know ....

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bag which I have with me at all
times.

I nearly failed to parse that bit, I was laughing so hard ..

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that kinda image is too much to entertain... LOL!
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Rob Overfield

"Seasons don't fear the reaper, Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain.."

Tim Jackson <[email hidden]> writes

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Fran wrote on Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:20:04 -0000....

Quoted message said:

For more
sustained energy you need complex carbohydrate, e.g. bananas
(except they tend not travel well) or biscuits or even
sandwiches, if you think you can stand it. Or you could take
the extreme view and pack a tub of margarine or butter and a
bag of sugar...

Why not include a bag of flour and suitable cooking equipment so you
can stop half way and bake a cake?

ROTFL!
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Gordon Harris