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  1. Hello
    After cooking pasta, I rinse it under hot water as that is how mom
    did it.

    The resulting pasta is 'cleansed' of whatever was 'removed' from it
    while boiling.

    Some people tell me I should not rinse it but I am too old to change.

    I know when I make homemade pasta it is just basically egg and
    flour--enough to dry it out. The hard stuff sold in markets is very
    brittle and I am assuming it is the result of a less egg and more
    controlled drying process, possibly leaving a higher percentage of
    flour.

    I am wondering if the cooking of the product removes some of the
    wheat--and maybe carbs--from it?

    Does anyone know about the above?

    Thanks
    Herm

  2. Pasta is not low carb.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Papa Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello
    After cooking pasta, I rinse it under hot water as that is how mom
    did it.

    The resulting pasta is 'cleansed' of whatever was 'removed' from it
    while boiling.

    Some people tell me I should not rinse it but I am too old to change.

    I know when I make homemade pasta it is just basically egg and
    flour--enough to dry it out. The hard stuff sold in markets is very
    brittle and I am assuming it is the result of a less egg and more
    controlled drying process, possibly leaving a higher percentage of
    flour.

    I am wondering if the cooking of the product removes some of the
    wheat--and maybe carbs--from it?

    Does anyone know about the above?

    Thanks
    Herm

  3. JC Der Koenig said:

    Pasta is low carb.

  4. I understand that...just wondering about the 'residual' cooked/washed
    away.

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Pasta is not low carb.

  5. JC Der Koenig said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    Pasta is low carb.

    Bunky/Joe, how is forging JC posts helpful or "better" behavior than
    JC's real posts?

    Carmen

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  6. "Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    JC Der Koenig said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    Pasta is low carb.

    Bunky/Joe, how is forging JC posts helpful or "better" behavior than
    JC's real posts?

    He wants to be an acolyte.

  7. Hi,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    "Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    JC Der Koenig said:

    JC Der Koenig wrote:
    > Pasta is low carb.

    Bunky/Joe, how is forging JC posts helpful or "better" behavior
    than JC's real posts?

    He wants to be an acolyte.

    He's only managed parasite thus far. He needs to study Steve's posts.
    <G>

    Take care,
    Carmen
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  8. Try replacing pasta with chopped cauliflower.

    "Papa Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello
    After cooking pasta, I rinse it under hot water as that is how mom
    did it.

    The resulting pasta is 'cleansed' of whatever was 'removed' from it
    while boiling.

    Some people tell me I should not rinse it but I am too old to change.

    I know when I make homemade pasta it is just basically egg and
    flour--enough to dry it out. The hard stuff sold in markets is very
    brittle and I am assuming it is the result of a less egg and more
    controlled drying process, possibly leaving a higher percentage of
    flour.

    I am wondering if the cooking of the product removes some of the
    wheat--and maybe carbs--from it?

    Does anyone know about the above?

    Thanks
    Herm

  9. "Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    "Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    On 20-Feb-2005, JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > JC Der Koenig wrote:
    > > Pasta is low carb.

    Bunky/Joe, how is forging JC posts helpful or "better" behavior
    than JC's real posts?

    He wants to be an acolyte.

    He's only managed parasite thus far. He needs to study Steve's posts.

    Steve is still more the "pale shadow" than acolyte.

  10. Papa Joe said:

    Hello
    After cooking pasta, I rinse it under hot water as that is how mom
    did it.

    The resulting pasta is 'cleansed' of whatever was 'removed' from it
    while boiling.

    Nonsense.

    Quoted message said:

    Some people tell me I should not rinse it but I am too old to change.

    Wonderful. So why bother to ask anything if good technical information
    leads to a rational change?

    Quoted message said:

    I know when I make homemade pasta it is just basically egg and
    flour--enough to dry it out. The hard stuff sold in markets is very
    brittle and I am assuming it is the result of a less egg and more
    controlled drying process, possibly leaving a higher percentage of
    flour.

    You're guessing with no basis in fact.

    Quoted message said:

    I am wondering if the cooking of the product removes some of the
    wheat--and maybe carbs--from it?

    Does anyone know about the above?

    Yes.

    Pastorio

  11. Cooking pasta should have a negligible effect on the carbs, the only
    issue being a tiny amount might wind up in the discarded water. The
    only exception to that of which I'm aware is Dreamfields LC pasta.
    With that, if you over cook it, apparently the net carb count can go
    up, as they do some special processing to bind the carbs somehow. If
    you over cook it, the binding gets undone.

    As for rinsing, that's personal preference. The argument in favor of
    not rinsing is that the starch left on the surface is sticky, so sauce
    is supposed to adhere better. Personally, I prefer to rinse it too, as
    I think it tastes better.

  12. <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    As for rinsing, that's personal preference. The argument
    in favor of
    not rinsing is that the starch left on the surface is
    sticky, so sauce
    is supposed to adhere better.

    This is really OT as far as a LC newsgroup is concerned but,
    coming from a family one side of which is (southern)
    Italian, I know a great deal about pasta, having consumed,
    cooked, and made huge quantities of it in my younger days.
    In our family pasta was always cooked "al dente" and pasta
    that was even a bit beyond "al dente" was rejected. Watching
    a lot of cooking shows on TV nowadays I see them cooking the
    pasta "al dente" and then they dump this carefully cooked
    pasta into a pan containing the sauce and proceed to expose
    it to heat for another 5-10 minutes! Doesn't this turn it
    into mush? Where and when did this horrible technique
    develop?

    --
    Bob

    Kanyak's Doghouse
    http://www.kanyak.com

  13. If I wash candy and it will lose some carb, but it is still a candy.

    On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 08:51:16 -0500, Papa Joe <[email hidden]> wrote:

    =>Hello
    =>After cooking pasta, I rinse it under hot water as that is how mom
    =>did it.
    =>
    =>The resulting pasta is 'cleansed' of whatever was 'removed' from it
    =>while boiling.
    =>
    =>Some people tell me I should not rinse it but I am too old to change.
    =>
    =>I know when I make homemade pasta it is just basically egg and
    =>flour--enough to dry it out. The hard stuff sold in markets is very
    =>brittle and I am assuming it is the result of a less egg and more
    =>controlled drying process, possibly leaving a higher percentage of
    =>flour.
    =>
    =>I am wondering if the cooking of the product removes some of the
    =>wheat--and maybe carbs--from it?
    =>
    =>Does anyone know about the above?
    =>
    =>Thanks
    =>Herm

  14. Carmen
    I do not understand the Bunky/Joe forging comment...
    I certainly did not forge a post.
    Joe

    On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 16:08:18 GMT, "Carmen" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    JC Der Koenig said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    Pasta is low carb.

    Bunky/Joe, how is forging JC posts helpful or "better" behavior than
    JC's real posts?

    Carmen

  15. Opinicus said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    As for rinsing, that's personal preference. The argument in favor of
    not rinsing is that the starch left on the surface is sticky, so sauce
    is supposed to adhere better.

    This is really OT as far as a LC newsgroup is concerned but, coming from
    a family one side of which is (southern) Italian, I know a great deal
    about pasta, having consumed, cooked, and made huge quantities of it in
    my younger days. In our family pasta was always cooked "al dente" and
    pasta that was even a bit beyond "al dente" was rejected. Watching a lot
    of cooking shows on TV nowadays I see them cooking the pasta "al dente"
    and then they dump this carefully cooked pasta into a pan containing the
    sauce and proceed to expose it to heat for another 5-10 minutes! Doesn't
    this turn it into mush? Where and when did this horrible technique
    develop?

    Al dente pasta supposedly has a lower glycemic index. As for that crappy
    technique, I have no idea, although I've also seen it used, but only to
    mix the pasta with the sauce. My grandparents were from northern Italy.
    Search for "mauri" in the "cognome" section:

    http://gens.labo.net/

    --
    Bob in CT

  16. Thank You for the post.

    I had read the dreamfiels info on the cooking directions.
    When it is overcooked, the taste also goes a bit south.

    email hidden said:

    Cooking pasta should have a negligible effect on the carbs, the only
    issue being a tiny amount might wind up in the discarded water. The
    only exception to that of which I'm aware is Dreamfields LC pasta.
    With that, if you over cook it, apparently the net carb count can go
    up, as they do some special processing to bind the carbs somehow. If
    you over cook it, the binding gets undone.

    As for rinsing, that's personal preference. The argument in favor of
    not rinsing is that the starch left on the surface is sticky, so sauce
    is supposed to adhere better. Personally, I prefer to rinse it too, as
    I think it tastes better.

    Agreed.

    I have tried a number of LC pasta and find that no matter which one I
    use the carb 'hit' is pretty large. From regular use of ketostix, the
    spike is noticeable and predictable. I purchased some Manischeiwitz LC
    Noodles last night and will try them in some egg drop soup before
    having sauce. The carb count is the lowest I have found.

    Appreciate the input and the time.
    Joe

  17. JC Der Koenig said:

    Pasta is not low carb.


    .....I understand that, but the 'lower carb' variety just might be.
    Thanks for the reply.
    Joe

  18. Pasta will never be low carb, no matter how much you wish otherwise.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Papa Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    Pasta is not low carb.


    ....I understand that, but the 'lower carb' variety just might be.
    Thanks for the reply.
    Joe

  19. Hello Ppa Joe,

    Papa Joe said:
    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    JC Der Koenig wrote:
    > Pasta is low carb.

    Bunky/Joe, how is forging JC posts helpful or "better" behavior
    thanJC's real posts?

    Quoted message said:

    Carmen
    I do not understand the Bunky/Joe forging comment...
    I certainly did not forge a post.
    Joe

    Not you, Papa Joe. Bunky42 is the forger. His name is Joe.
    Sorry for the confusion.

    Have a good day,
    Carmen

  20. "Papa Joe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have tried a number of LC pasta and find that no matter which one I
    use the carb 'hit' is pretty large.

    Does it do the same for Dreamfields, Joe?

    Nicky.

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