Night riding.

Callistus Valerius said:

I planning on doing some night riding in the boondocks. How do you

deal

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with a good ol' boy, in a pickup, who seems threatened by lycra? Do

you

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have beer with him, try to persuade him that he has nothing to worry

about,

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etc? I can't exactly carry a compound box on my back like Burt

Reynolds did

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in deliverence, so how do you protect yourself?

I would recommend Lifestyles or Trojans.

RVD

Callistus Valerius said:

I planning on doing some night riding in the boondocks. How do you

deal

Quoted message said:

with a good ol' boy, in a pickup, who seems threatened by lycra? Do

you

Quoted message said:

have beer with him, try to persuade him that he has nothing to worry

about,

Quoted message said:

etc? I can't exactly carry a compound box on my back like Burt

Reynolds did

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in deliverence, so how do you protect yourself?

Get a big Dale Earnhart #3 patch and pin it on the back of your wind
jacket. Just don't use #24 'cause all real Bubba's know Jeff Gordon
just aint right.

Bill C

Well if you'll be in the boonies at night, you'll probably be riding more or
less in the middle of the lane 'cause the sides are usually more broken and
you've more debris (roadkill etc.)- I always used clear lens cycling glasses
(or just the frame even- I suggest avoiding the yellow lenses ) to hold a
rear view mirror attached to the frame- pay attention, and you should have
enough time to move right off the road before he notices you, otherwise
you'll notice the headlights behind you casting their shine on the road in
front. Now, depending on how deep you are into redneck country just moving
right off the road should suffice, but if you are really worried, stand by
the side of the road and pretend your bike has broken down and your're
stranded- he'll see you at the last minute and snicker to himself as he
drives by without stopping.

Don't wear Telekom pink.

Good luck

Laz

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I planning on doing some night riding in the boondocks. How do you

deal

Quoted message said:

with a good ol' boy, in a pickup, who seems threatened by lycra? Do you
have beer with him, try to persuade him that he has nothing to worry

about,

Quoted message said:

etc? I can't exactly carry a compound box on my back like Burt Reynolds

did

Quoted message said:

in deliverence, so how do you protect yourself?

Quoted message said:

Well if you'll be in the boonies at night, you'll probably be riding more

or

Quoted message said:

less in the middle of the lane 'cause the sides are usually more broken

and

Quoted message said:

you've more debris (roadkill etc.)- I always used clear lens cycling

glasses

Quoted message said:

(or just the frame even- I suggest avoiding the yellow lenses ) to hold a
rear view mirror attached to the frame- pay attention, and you should have
enough time to move right off the road before he notices you, otherwise
you'll notice the headlights behind you casting their shine on the road in
front. Now, depending on how deep you are into redneck country just moving
right off the road should suffice, but if you are really worried, stand by
the side of the road and pretend your bike has broken down and your're
stranded- he'll see you at the last minute and snicker to himself as he
drives by without stopping.

Don't wear Telekom pink.

Good luck

Laz

Thanks. I have used the broken bike scam before in the daylight in
redneck country before. They start giving you [censored], and just start looking
at the derraillur, and they lose interest. I've been hit by empty beer
cans, and once a full unopened can was launched at me, but he led me too
much. It went off like a grenade about 5 feet in front of me. But the wind
blew the spray away from me, and I only had to dodge the can. What
absurdity, with one of the replies about reccomending Lifestyles or Trojans.
But typical of RBR.

Quoted message said:

Get a big Dale Earnhart #3 patch and pin it on the back of your wind
jacket. Just don't use #24 'cause all real Bubba's know Jeff Gordon
just aint right.

Bill C

That would actually work, and I did think of that myself, but I do have
some standards.

One time I was on a tour ride, that went by a NASCAR event in Phoenix.
What a party! It's a strange culture, for sure. But it didn't look that
bad. Some of the other riders told me that they park their RV's a week
before the event, and start partying. I like to drink beer too, but I'd
rather do it in my Sea kayak ( for courage of course. the sea doesn't take
prisoners).

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I can't exactly carry a compound box on my back like Burt Reynolds

did

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in deliverence, so how do you protect yourself?

Learn to play the banjo?

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I planning on doing some night riding in the boondocks. How do

you deal

Quoted message said:

with a good ol' boy, in a pickup, who seems threatened by lycra? Do

you

Quoted message said:

have beer with him, try to persuade him that he has nothing to worry

about,

Quoted message said:

etc? I can't exactly carry a compound box on my back like Burt

Reynolds did

Quoted message said:

in deliverence, so how do you protect yourself?

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Quoted message said:

Get a big Dale Earnhart #3 patch and pin it on the back of your wind
jacket. Just don't use #24 'cause all real Bubba's know Jeff Gordon
just aint right.

Bill C

That would actually work, and I did think of that myself, but I do have
some standards.

One time I was on a tour ride, that went by a NASCAR event in Phoenix.
What a party! It's a strange culture, for sure. But it didn't look that
bad. Some of the other riders told me that they park their RV's a week
before the event, and start partying. I like to drink beer too, but I'd
rather do it in my Sea kayak ( for courage of course. the sea doesn't take
prisoners).

We have the Stafford Motor Speedway in our cycling area. At trip through
town by bicycle is always an interesting experience. The people on
motorcycles generally give a positive greeting if anything at all. It's the
folks in the pickup trucks (the newer models) who are the greatest danger to
cyclists.

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Well if you'll be in the boonies at night, you'll probably be riding more

or

Quoted message said:

less in the middle of the lane 'cause the sides are usually more broken

and

Quoted message said:

you've more debris (roadkill etc.)- I always used clear lens cycling

glasses

Quoted message said:

(or just the frame even- I suggest avoiding the yellow lenses ) to hold a
rear view mirror attached to the frame- pay attention, and you should
have
enough time to move right off the road before he notices you, otherwise
you'll notice the headlights behind you casting their shine on the road
in
front. Now, depending on how deep you are into redneck country just
moving
right off the road should suffice, but if you are really worried, stand
by
the side of the road and pretend your bike has broken down and your're
stranded- he'll see you at the last minute and snicker to himself as he
drives by without stopping.

Don't wear Telekom pink.

Good luck

Laz

Thanks. I have used the broken bike scam before in the daylight in
redneck country before. They start giving you [censored], and just start
looking
at the derraillur, and they lose interest. I've been hit by empty beer
cans, and once a full unopened can was launched at me, but he led me too
much. It went off like a grenade about 5 feet in front of me. But the
wind
blew the spray away from me, and I only had to dodge the can. What
absurdity, with one of the replies about reccomending Lifestyles or
Trojans.
But typical of RBR.

Descending Lookout Mountain during the 3 State 3 Mountain Challenge out of
Chattanooga I was followed down by an old truck--kind of a derelict,
homemade flat bed--with two guys drinking beer, rather unkempt hair and
missing a few teeth. They couldn't pass on the downhill and didn't try.
There's a stop light at the bottom and we hit a red light. They rolled up
next to me laughing, expressed approval for my descent and handed me a cold,
unopened can of Bush beer. Nice.

I've had relatively good luck with Rednecks. Both times that I was
almost beat up, I think that what stopped them was how puny I was. The
last time a guy with spiderweb tattoos all over his back got out of his
truck to "talk" His buddy was laughing so hard that he couldn't lift
his head. At that point I had the option of getting my ass beat or
getting my ride on. Guess which option I took?

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Learn to play the banjo?

How much does a banjo weigh? Maybe a toy one, hanging from the top
tube?

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I planning on doing some night riding in the boondocks. How do you

deal

Quoted message said:

with a good ol' boy, in a pickup, who seems threatened by lycra? Do you
have beer with him, try to persuade him that he has nothing to worry

about,

Quoted message said:

etc? I can't exactly carry a compound box on my back like Burt Reynolds

did

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in deliverence, so how do you protect yourself?

Pepper spray. Works on dogs, and two-legged varmints. At night, they
probably wouldn't see it in your hand prior to deployment (depending on size
of the canister).

GG

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Pepper spray. Works on dogs, and two-legged varmints. At night, they
probably wouldn't see it in your hand prior to deployment (depending on

size

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of the canister).

GG

You're probably right, but I did see a guy on "Cops" where the police
practically gave him a bath of pepper spray, and he kept a comin'. But I
think he was on PCP.

GaryG said:

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Pepper spray. Works on dogs, and two-legged varmints. At night, they
probably wouldn't see it in your hand prior to deployment

Callistus Valerius said:

You're probably right, but I did see a guy on "Cops" where the police
practically gave him a bath of pepper spray, and he kept a comin'. But I
think he was on PCP.

PCP should make an interesting addition to the doping arsenal. Come to
think of it, perhaps it goes some way to explaining critpro's paranoid
behaviour.

It is indeed. I do know a couple of people who carry on rides at
times.

Tom

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Pepper spray. Works on dogs, and two-legged varmints. At night, they
probably wouldn't see it in your hand prior to deployment (depending on

size

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of the canister).

GG

You're probably right, but I did see a guy on "Cops" where the police
practically gave him a bath of pepper spray, and he kept a comin'. But I
think he was on PCP.

Works well on NYC cabbies wielding barber's razors at 5:30 am on 1st Avenue.

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Pepper spray. Works on dogs, and two-legged varmints. At night, they
probably wouldn't see it in your hand prior to deployment (depending on

size

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of the canister).

GG

You're probably right, but I did see a guy on "Cops" where the police
practically gave him a bath of pepper spray, and he kept a comin'. But I
think he was on PCP.

I've heard of that happening too, but I think that's not very common. I saw
pepper spray used once when I was at a county fair. The cops were trying to
remove a big, fat, very drunk guy. He wasn't trying to fight them, but was
belligerent, and not cooperating. Rather than trying to wrestle him down,
they sprayed him. In seconds he was compliant, and in cuffs.

This one looks like a pretty good unit for carrying in a jersey pocket, and
it has the "flip top" safety that I prefer:

http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/sprays.htm

Note: get the "stream", not the "fog" spray pattern, in case you need to
deploy it while riding. The stream is less susceptible to spray blowback.
Also, don't bother with "Halt" - it's a weak pepper spray designed only for
dogs.

GG

Callistus Valerius said:

You're probably right, but I did see a guy on "Cops" where the police
practically gave him a bath of pepper spray, and he kept a comin'. But I
think he was on PCP.

Try a full grown Alsatian or Doberman on adrenaline. Still makes
sense, though - if you're going down, may as well make it quick by
pissing the dog off in a serious way. I can accept being ripped to
pieces, but being slowly gnawed to death would be an irritation.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Callistus Valerius said:

before the event, and start partying. I like to drink beer too, but I'd
rather do it in my Sea kayak ( for courage of course. the sea doesn't take
prisoners).

Two rules of multisport:
1. Never buy a second-hand wetsuit from a triathlete.
2. Never buy a second-hand kayak from a multisport athlete.

Rednecks, huh? It sure is nice doing all of my night rides in nearby
Pebble Beach.

Our problem is distracted tourists during daylight or sunset rides.
Jason
c _sinensis @ yahoo .com