Mountain quiz

Simon Edwardes wrote:
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Moel Siabod?

Dave

Davep said:

Simon Edwardes wrote:
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Moel Siabod?

Good call.

Chris

Simon Edwardes said:

Not really a quiz, sorry about that, but one to get you thinking

about

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anyway.

I've recently received an e-mail via my website from a chap in

Canada,

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asking if I could help him identify a mountain he climbed when

visiting

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Britain last year. From the e-mail I surmised that the mountain is
probably in Snowdonia (but I may be wrong), but I replied to him

asking

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for more details, which I've now received. There are some details he
has given about a monument at the top with a plaque, but I'm not sure
whether it is a memorial or just a trig pillar. Can any of you lot
help with his quest - I've pasted both his e-mails below.

Cheers, Simon
website: http://www.simonedwardes.co.uk
The Mountains of England and Wales

1st e-mail:
I climbed up a mountain in whales last year with my cousin. I can not
remember the name of it and was hoping with all your experiance you
might be able to help me.

When we left Manchester it took us about 2 hours or so to reach the

one

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we decided to climb. It was a good drive into whales. On the way up

we

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found a run down house or shack thing and at the top there was a

stone

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marker about 3 to 4 feet tall, I believe it was from a husband to his
wife something to that effect. It was at the highest peak of the
mountain. We did encounter other climbers so Im guessing this is a
popular climbing mountain.

Well Im hoping with the little bit of info I gave you that you might
remember which mountain this was if you had been there. There was

also

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trails and steps that were made to help you climb the walls before

you

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got to the base of the mountain.

2nd e-mail:
Thanks for your reply . I realized after I sent the email how I was
spelling Wales force of habit. Yes I am in Canada, I was born in
liverpool .I was over last year visiting relatives thats when we did
the climb.

Your website is great I spent sometime on it yesterday. Well done.
We parked roadside, We had a good walk before we got to the base of

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mountain, I remember there was a few big hills we had to climb before
we reached the base. On the way we ran into what I think was a

farmers

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road that helped our walk a little.With a gate on it,the run down

stone

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hut we ran into did have what looked like someone had started mining
into the mountain.There was not much of a cave but you could tell

that

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they wanted to start mining there. At one point about half way up (

if

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not less) it leveled of and there was a little pond.As we we got

alot

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closer to the top there were lots of huge bolders that had come down
from the top of the mountain to the point where hundreds of them had
piled up. So you were climbing on tones of piled bolders with lots of
shakey smaller ones .The top had a man made memorial made from I

think

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brick or concrete ( it was not just rocks piled on top of one

another.

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I believe there was also a plaque you could read that said something
about a wife I think it even had a drain on it because I left a few
Pence inside the hole so I could prove oneday I had been there) I

cant

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really remember I was so excited to reach the top that things ar a
blurr. Someone had also built a BIG stone circle of rocks maybe
swimming pool size. At the top there was one part that was a sheer

drop

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nothing like what we had climbed up to reach the top.This was

vertical

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Mountain side.

Did i mention sheep they were everywhere.

We did drive threw lots of steep valleys too. I remember this because
my cousin was scaring the [censored] out of me. all the way. On the way

back

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we did hit a little town where we stopped for some over cooked chips
but we were starved so they were good.

Chris Gilbert said:

Davep said:

Simon Edwardes wrote:
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Moel Siabod?

Good call.

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I will go with that...
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Richard Webb

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Chris Gilbert said:

Davep said:

Simon Edwardes wrote:
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Moel Siabod?

Good call.

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I will go with that...
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Richard Webb

I reckon I could drive it in less that 2 hours though ;-)

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Adrian

Possibly Moel Siabod, however, the thing that I remember most about this
mountain (at that place) is the deep dark, water filled quarry, something
that everyone must mention or remember? Personnally, without mentioning
this quarry, I'd have my doubts.

I'd cast an eye on Elidar Fawr, however the top doesn't seem right in the
description.

Mmmmm......................

Jhimmy

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I reckon I could drive it in less that 2 hours though ;-)

So could I but AA Autoroute has Manchester to Capel in 2 hours 1 minutes
so the road journey is not unreasonable.

The reference to the gated farm road puzzled me (as did some of the
other detail but my memory of Siabod is very hazy despite doing it on
Expedition 1).

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Roger Chapman so far this year 17 summits
New - 11 (Marilyns 0, Sweats 1, Outlying Fells 10)
Repeats - 6 (Marilyns 1, Sweats 2, Wainwrights 6, Outlying Fells 0)

Roger said:

The reference to the gated farm road puzzled me (as did some of the
other detail but my memory of Siabod is very hazy despite doing it on
Expedition 1).

My first time up Siabod we walked from Capel Curig via a long loop of forest
track and finally approached the hill from the South-East (off the bottom
of my Snowdonia map so I can't check details). That way avoids the notable
quarry and the "little pond" does suddenly appear half-way up.
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Dave

I think also that there would be a more than reasonable chance that
someone driving from Manchester to walk up Siabod would park opposite
Cobdens Hotel, yet no mention of the Stagecoach in the carpark.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:39:09 GMT, "Jhimmy" <[email hidden]>

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Possibly Moel Siabod, however, the thing that I remember most about this
mountain (at that place) is the deep dark, water filled quarry, something
that everyone must mention or remember? Personnally, without mentioning
this quarry, I'd have my doubts.

Which you dont pass if going up from Capel Curig of PyG..
I seem to remember that s on the way up to the easy scrambling route
up the east side.

Richard Webb

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Thanks for all your replies so far.
No one yet has made reference to the memorial he mentioned... "at the
top there was a stone marker about 3 to 4 feet tall, I believe it was
from a husband to his wife something to that effect". Not being
familiar with Britain, I suppose he could have mistaken the trig
pillar for a memorial, but the husband/wife bit sounds fairly
specific.

Simon

Tall markers? Tal y Mignedd? but that's too tall....

Moel Eilio has a prominent shack (burnt out house) on the way up from
Llanberis, plus the farmer's route and gate. Puddles on the way up. But I'm
not convinced...

Moel Siabod sounds likely, but it could well (and with the cobden's
suggestion) be somewhere like Arenig Fawr. Quarries, and i'm sure the summit
has a memorial to a bomber that crashed. It also levels out at Simdde Ddu,
and has a lot of little puddles or lakes (approached from north or south).
AFAIK, this is the only summit memorial in Eryri, but I'm only really
familiar with everything north of the Moelwyns. It also has a sheer face,
unlike the rest of it.

What throws me is that they passed through lots of mountains on the way
there. So it discounts Siabod( unless they went via Bangor and Ogwen, which
from Manchester is feasable) and almost anything to the east of the park!

TBH this could even be Snowdon from the info given!

Frustrating!

Ask him for some more info!
(such as the name of the darn peak!!!)

T Dave Roberts

I sent him an e-mail suggesting it could be Moel Siabod, and got this
reply...

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It could have been. Is there a website you know of that might have
pictures of all the pillars and markers that are on the tops?

I have been looking at every picture of mountains in wales on the
internet and realized my question to you was a silly one. Every picture
ihave seen had the same thing. ponds,broken down stone huts.
So im thinking if I could see pictures of the markers on top I will
know for sure which one it was.
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Not much on Google - anyone got a summit photo for Moel Siabod (or
other possible candidates) which clearly shows the trig pillar/summit
furniture? (drop the GG if replying by e-mail).

Cheers, Simon