lol

And into my killfile like a rifle shot.

rob2 said:

http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=845&ArticleID=935191

http://tinyurl.co.uk/ps00

ACCIDENT: Car hit cyclist like a 'golf shot'
A CYCLIST was thrown 45 metres through the air and into a ditch after he was
hit like a "golf shot" by a speeding sports car, a court heard.
Michael Blake was knocked off his mountain bike by a glancing blow from a
Toyota Celica two-litre GT being driven by Darren Mansfield (24) as it spun
out of control, Peterborough Crown Court heard.

I don't think it is anything to laugh about - I'm out that way tomorrow
night.

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- Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:40:39 -0000, "rob2" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

In the police interview read to the court by prosecutor Tim Brown, Mansfield
said the incident would be with him for the rest of his life.
He said: "It's been a horrific life-changing thing. I don't feel like
getting back in the car at all. I don't like being in cars any more, it
makes me uncomfortable. I know that what's happened is going to be with me
for the rest of my life."

And it lived with the cyclist for the rest of his life, as well - but
this was rather shorter. But here at least we have a clear case where
the court can help the poor little cager out of his misery - since he
is now uncomfortable being in a car, a lifetime ban will ensure he is
spared the experience on his emergence after his lengthy prison
sentence.

Oh, wait - it was a cyclist he killed. Six points and £250 fine,
then, and don't do it again, unless you're really late for work or
something.

Guy
--
"then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels
blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:40:39 -0000, "rob2" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

In the police interview read to the court by prosecutor Tim Brown,
Mansfield
said the incident would be with him for the rest of his life.
He said: "It's been a horrific life-changing thing. I don't feel like
getting back in the car at all. I don't like being in cars any more, it
makes me uncomfortable. I know that what's happened is going to be with me
for the rest of my life."

And it lived with the cyclist for the rest of his life, as well - but
this was rather shorter. But here at least we have a clear case where
the court can help the poor little cager out of his misery - since he
is now uncomfortable being in a car, a lifetime ban will ensure he is
spared the experience on his emergence after his lengthy prison
sentence.

Oh, wait - it was a cyclist he killed. Six points and £250 fine,
then, and don't do it again, unless you're really late for work or
something.

Guy

That's what i found so funny, apparently a 15-year old was killed
by a a driver on his 9th conviction for no insurance or
driving licence, he got a £200 fine. This was from streetbikers
letters page; just did a google on cyclist fine, death etc to how
prevelent (sp?) it was and saw something from today, sorry/.

http://www.streetbiker-mag.com/sb0130/letters.html

Quoted message said:

That's what i found so funny, apparently a 15-year old was killed
by a a driver on his 9th conviction for no insurance or
driving licence, he got a £200 fine.

Don't forget the 12 year old who was caught drunk driving and given a
two year ban!

You have to laugh at the (Nae)Justice System

Robert

BigRab said:

Don't forget the 12 year old who was caught drunk driving and given a
two year ban!

You have to laugh at the (Nae)Justice System

The ban doesn't start until he is legally old enough to drive.

R.

Richard said:

BigRab said:

Don't forget the 12 year old who was caught drunk driving and given a
two year ban!
You have to laugh at the (Nae)Justice System

The ban doesn't start until he is legally old enough to drive.

That's not what the BBC said. The reporter there explained that the only
point to the ban is that it gives a record that will count if^h^hwhen
there's any more offences by the wee treasure.

--
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in message <[email hidden]>, Richard

(') said:

BigRab said:

Don't forget the 12 year old who was caught drunk driving and given a
two year ban!

You have to laugh at the (Nae)Justice System

The ban doesn't start until he is legally old enough to drive.

_She_, and my understanding is that you're wrong: the ban starts
immediately and will have expired before she's legally old enough.
That's what the BBC reported, anyway.

--
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;; not so much a refugee from reality, more a bogus
;; asylum seeker

JLB said:

Richard said:

BigRab said:

Don't forget the 12 year old who was caught drunk driving and given a
two year ban!
You have to laugh at the (Nae)Justice System

The ban doesn't start until he is legally old enough to drive.

That's not what the BBC said. The reporter there explained that the only
point to the ban is that it gives a record that will count if^h^hwhen
there's any more offences by the wee treasure.

Mea culpa, although in mitigation, m'lud, I'd offer that some courts
/have/ postponed driving bans until 17.

R.

Richard said:

Quoted message said:

The ban doesn't start until he is legally old enough to drive.

and Simon Brooke said:

_She_

In this case, yes, although Richard may have been thinking of the 13yo
_he_ who was banned for drink driving a couple of weeks ago:
<URL:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4151687.stm>

--
Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my reply address)
<URL:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/>
"He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

Just zis Guy said:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:40:39 -0000, "rob2" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

In the police interview read to the court by prosecutor Tim Brown, Mansfield
said the incident would be with him for the rest of his life.
He said: "It's been a horrific life-changing thing. I don't feel like
getting back in the car at all. I don't like being in cars any more, it
makes me uncomfortable. I know that what's happened is going to be with me
for the rest of my life."

And it lived with the cyclist for the rest of his life, as well - but
this was rather shorter. But here at least we have a clear case where
the court can help the poor little cager out of his misery - since he
is now uncomfortable being in a car, a lifetime ban will ensure he is
spared the experience on his emergence after his lengthy prison
sentence.

Oh, wait - it was a cyclist he killed. Six points and £250 fine,
then, and don't do it again, unless you're really late for work or
something.

Guy

Guy, you are way too cynical about our legal system; he got a whopping
£500 fine.

"A MOTORIST who killed a cyclist in a car crash has walked free from court.
A jury of seven women and five men took four and a half hours to find
Darren Mansfield (24) not guilty of causing death by dangerous driving,
at Peterborough Crown Court yesterday.
Instead, a majority of 10 to two convicted him of driving without due
care and attention, when he killed Michael Blake (31), of Tattershall
Drive, Market Deeping, on February 16, last year.

The verdict was greeted by a shout of anger from the public gallery,
where Mr Blake's friends and family sat.
Judge Alasdair Darroch fined Mansfield £500, ordered him to pay £150
court costs and banned him from driving for two years.

He said: "This is the sort of dreadful and tragic case where no one wins.
"You might have admitted careless driving, something you would have been
much wiser to do. The emotional damage caused in this case is not open
to value."

During the five-day trial, the court heard that Mansfield had been
driving his two-litre Toyota Celica GT, on the road between Peakirk and
Market Deeping, when the collision occurred.
It was alleged he was travelling at speeds of up to 99mph, although
Mansfield claimed he kept to the 60mph speed limit.

Judge Darroch added: "There are far too many young men driving too fast.
You knew that road. What you did fell below the standard expected."
Before the sentence was passed, Tim Brown, prosecuting, said:
"Undoubtedly the defendant has been found at fault to some extent.
Whatever the verdict, this remains a tragic case."

Earlier in the trial, Mansfield told the court how he could not get the
image of Mr Blake's face out of his mind.
The court heard how Mansfield, who was of good character, was extremely
remorseful and had not driven since the incident.
Mansfield, of Stowe Road, Langtoft, near Bourne, had had a difficult
year with the death of his father Mel (57), in August, the court heard,
and his girlfriend was sectioned under the Mental Health Act, suffering
from depression."

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Quoted message said:

Just zis Guy said:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:40:39 -0000, "rob2" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

In the police interview read to the court by prosecutor Tim Brown,
Mansfield said the incident would be with him for the rest of his life.
He said: "It's been a horrific life-changing thing. I don't feel like
getting back in the car at all. I don't like being in cars any more, it
makes me uncomfortable. I know that what's happened is going to be with
me for the rest of my life."

And it lived with the cyclist for the rest of his life, as well - but
this was rather shorter. But here at least we have a clear case where
the court can help the poor little cager out of his misery - since he
is now uncomfortable being in a car, a lifetime ban will ensure he is
spared the experience on his emergence after his lengthy prison
sentence.

Oh, wait - it was a cyclist he killed. Six points and £250 fine,
then, and don't do it again, unless you're really late for work or
something.

Guy

Guy, you are way too cynical about our legal system; he got a whopping
£500 fine.

"A MOTORIST who killed a cyclist in a car crash has walked free from
court.
A jury of seven women and five men took four and a half hours to find
Darren Mansfield (24) not guilty of causing death by dangerous driving, at
Peterborough Crown Court yesterday.
Instead, a majority of 10 to two convicted him of driving without due care
and attention, when he killed Michael Blake (31), of Tattershall Drive,
Market Deeping, on February 16, last year.

The verdict was greeted by a shout of anger from the public gallery, where
Mr Blake's friends and family sat.
Judge Alasdair Darroch fined Mansfield £500, ordered him to pay £150 court
costs and banned him from driving for two years.

He said: "This is the sort of dreadful and tragic case where no one wins.
"You might have admitted careless driving, something you would have been
much wiser to do. The emotional damage caused in this case is not open to
value."

During the five-day trial, the court heard that Mansfield had been driving
his two-litre Toyota Celica GT, on the road between Peakirk and Market
Deeping, when the collision occurred.
It was alleged he was travelling at speeds of up to 99mph, although
Mansfield claimed he kept to the 60mph speed limit.

Judge Darroch added: "There are far too many young men driving too fast.
You knew that road. What you did fell below the standard expected."
Before the sentence was passed, Tim Brown, prosecuting, said: "Undoubtedly
the defendant has been found at fault to some extent.
Whatever the verdict, this remains a tragic case."

Earlier in the trial, Mansfield told the court how he could not get the
image of Mr Blake's face out of his mind.
The court heard how Mansfield, who was of good character, was extremely
remorseful and had not driven since the incident.
Mansfield, of Stowe Road, Langtoft, near Bourne, had had a difficult year
with the death of his father Mel (57), in August, the court heard, and his
girlfriend was sectioned under the Mental Health Act, suffering from
depression."

£650 is excessive considering the damage
the cyclist gave to his car at 99mph. Also
the driving ban might require him to cycle
, something he may fear doing.

Not Responding said:

his girlfriend was sectioned under the Mental Health Act, suffering
from depression."

Unsurprising really. It must have been depressing to realise that the
moron in the boy-racer car was potentially yours for life!

Jon