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  1. I've been reading some of the tubie vs. clincher discussion going on
    here, and I'm tempted to try them out if I can find a set of cheap
    wheels. I've only ridden on clinchers, and had a question:

    All of the tubulars I've been able to find info on are < 23 mm, usually
    21 or 22 mm. I am about 220 to 225 lbs and ride on 25 mm clinchers. Am
    I too big to ride on tubies? Should tubie width not be compared to
    clincher width?

    I started out on 23 mm tires inflated to about 120 psi, and once in a
    while someone would tell me my back tire was going flat. So I moved up
    to 25 mm @ 120 psi, and those comments stopped. I also like the ride
    better.

  2. Mark said:

    I've been reading some of the tubie vs. clincher discussion going on
    here, and I'm tempted to try them out if I can find a set of cheap
    wheels. I've only ridden on clinchers, and had a question:

    All of the tubulars I've been able to find info on are < 23 mm, usually
    21 or 22 mm. I am about 220 to 225 lbs and ride on 25 mm clinchers. Am
    I too big to ride on tubies? Should tubie width not be compared to
    clincher width?

    I started out on 23 mm tires inflated to about 120 psi, and once in a
    while someone would tell me my back tire was going flat. So I moved up
    to 25 mm @ 120 psi, and those comments stopped. I also like the ride
    better.


    Moderately ample 25mm tubs have virtually disappeared.
    There are nice 27mm Paris Roubaix but not much in between.

    (A true 27mm tub won't clear some modern race bikes under
    the caliper.)

    If you just want to try them, nice tub wheels turn up at
    swap meets cheaply this time of year.
    http://www.yellowjersey.org/tt.html

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  3. mark-<< All of the tubulars I've been able to find info on are < 23 mm, usually

    21 or 22 mm. I am about 220 to 225 lbs and ride on 25 mm clinchers. Am
    I too big to ride on tubies? Should tubie width not be compared to
    clincher width? >><BR><BR>

    I answer-A decent 23mm tubie will work fine. I am 'almost' your weight and ride
    them every dry day.

    Use about 110psi and go enjoy how nice the ride is and also, you won't be
    called a 'girly-man' for using clinchers.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  4. Andrew Muzi said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've been reading some of the tubie vs. clincher discussion going
    on here, and I'm tempted to try them out if I can find a set of
    cheap wheels. I've only ridden on clinchers, and had a question:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    All of the tubulars I've been able to find info on are < 23 mm,
    usually 21 or 22 mm. I am about 220 to 225 lbs and ride on 25 mm
    clinchers. Am I too big to ride on tubies? Should tubie width not
    be compared to clincher width?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I started out on 23 mm tires inflated to about 120 psi, and once in
    a while someone would tell me my back tire was going flat. So I
    moved up to 25 mm @ 120 psi, and those comments stopped. I also
    like the ride better.

    Quoted message said:

    Moderately ample 25mm tubs have virtually disappeared. There are
    nice 27mm Paris Roubaix but not much in between.

    Quoted message said:

    (A true 27mm tub won't clear some modern race bikes under the
    caliper.)

    Quoted message said:

    If you just want to try them, nice tub wheels turn up at swap meets
    cheaply this time of year.

    http://www.yellowjersey.org/tt.html

    I see one of the problems with tubulars hasn't been mentioned here but
    most rims have a semicircular contour on which the tubular tire rests.
    The radius of this contour should match the tire size fairly
    accurately or the tire will walk more than one might expect. The rims
    of the 1960's and before of Fiamme, Nisi, Martano, Mavic and others
    were a compromise in having a smaller radius in the center and a
    relatively broad curl toward the outside.

    A 23mm tire seated best on Fiamme rims while the 25mm road tires,
    Campionato del Mundo and Speciale Corsa sat a bit high on the edges of
    the main radius. This is one of the reasons they wore out from
    beneath and why adhesion was not even as good as the glue should have
    offered.

    So what are the current rims offering as a seat radius? I'm sure
    this problem has not disappeared.

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    A Muzi said:
    Mark said:

    I've been reading some of the tubie vs. clincher discussion going on
    here, and I'm tempted to try them out if I can find a set of cheap
    wheels. I've only ridden on clinchers, and had a question:

    All of the tubulars I've been able to find info on are < 23 mm, usually
    21 or 22 mm. I am about 220 to 225 lbs and ride on 25 mm clinchers. Am
    I too big to ride on tubies? Should tubie width not be compared to
    clincher width?

    I started out on 23 mm tires inflated to about 120 psi, and once in a
    while someone would tell me my back tire was going flat. So I moved up
    to 25 mm @ 120 psi, and those comments stopped. I also like the ride
    better.


    Moderately ample 25mm tubs have virtually disappeared.
    There are nice 27mm Paris Roubaix but not much in between.

    (A true 27mm tub won't clear some modern race bikes under
    the caliper.)

    I have 2000 Lemond Tourmalet with Sora brakes. I'm guessing 27mm would
    be kind of close. I have 25 mm Conti GP 4 seasons on right now, and it
    looks like there is about .25 inch clearance between the tire and the
    calipers. On the front, it looks like the fork is the limiting factor,
    it is closer than the brake calipers.

    Quoted message said:

    If you just want to try them, nice tub wheels turn up at
    swap meets cheaply this time of year.
    http://www.yellowjersey.org/tt.html

  6. Great, since I'm waiting for my first tubular wheelset, I can look forward
    to smooth(er?) rides and no strange comments from Peter.

    Josh

    "Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I answer-A decent 23mm tubie will work fine. I am 'almost' your weight and


    ride

    Quoted message said:

    them every dry day.

    Use about 110psi and go enjoy how nice the ride is and also, you won't be
    called a 'girly-man' for using clinchers.

  7. On 05 Feb 2005 14:16:03 GMT, [email hidden] (Qui si parla

    Campagnolo ) may have said:

    mark-<< All of the tubulars I've been able to find info on are < 23 mm, usually

    21 or 22 mm. I am about 220 to 225 lbs and ride on 25 mm clinchers. Am
    I too big to ride on tubies? Should tubie width not be compared to
    clincher width? >><BR><BR>

    I answer-A decent 23mm tubie will work fine. I am 'almost' your weight and ride
    them every dry day.

    Use about 110psi and go enjoy how nice the ride is and also, you won't be
    called a 'girly-man' for using clinchers.

    Around here, that's a hangin' offense.

    Real Men Ride Whatever They Damn Well Please.

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    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
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