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  1. How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a little
    first and then add the oil? or do you put the oil in the pan, then heat?
    Does it make a difference? Thanks.
    Teri

  2. Teri said:

    How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a
    little first and then add the oil? or do you put the oil in the pan,
    then heat? Does it make a difference? Thanks.
    Teri

    Hot pan, cold oil, food won't stick.

    Jill

  3. "Teri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a little
    first and then add the oil?

    Heat the pan until a drop of water "dances" on the surface and does not
    spread then add the oil.

    Quoted message said:

    Does it make a difference? Thanks.


    Yes it makes a very big difference

    Dimitri

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Teri said:

    How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a
    little first and then add the oil? or do you put the oil in the pan,
    then heat? Does it make a difference? Thanks.
    Teri

    Hot pan, cold oil, food won't stick.

    Really? Have a look here. Scroll down to the section headed "Hot Pan,
    Cold Oil"

    http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm

  5. One time on Usenet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Teri wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a
    little first and then add the oil? or do you put the oil in the pan,
    then heat? Does it make a difference? Thanks.
    Teri

    Hot pan, cold oil, food won't stick.

    Really? Have a look here. Scroll down to the section headed "Hot Pan,
    Cold Oil"

    http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm

    Interesting site, I remember many of these myths being discussed in
    rfc over the years...

    --
    J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~
    "I rule you!" - Travis of the Cosmos, ATHF

  6. Robt E said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Teri said:

    How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a
    little first and then add the oil? or do you put the oil in the pan,
    then heat? Does it make a difference? Thanks.
    Teri

    Hot pan, cold oil, food won't stick.

    Really? Have a look here. Scroll down to the section headed "Hot Pan,
    Cold Oil"

    http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm

    Web site or not, it works for me!

    Jill

  7. "Robt E" <yahoo@robt_englund.com> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Teri said:

    How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a
    little first and then add the oil? or do you put the oil in the pan,
    then heat? Does it make a difference? Thanks.
    Teri

    Hot pan, cold oil, food won't stick.

    Really? Have a look here. Scroll down to the section headed "Hot Pan,
    Cold Oil"

    http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm

    Maybe you should read "This works of course, so it is not a myth in that it
    is untrue"

    Can we say NOT A MYTH?

    Dimitri

  8. Teri said:

    How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a little


    first and then add the oil? or do you put the oil in the pan, then heat? Does
    it make a difference?

    Not really... just heat fat slowly and don't heat the fat past its smoke
    point... when in doubt err on the side of lower/slower heat. Mostly the fat
    temperature is dependant on *what's* cooking.... for delicate foods like eggs,
    seafood/shelfish, and veal stay towards the lower heat side, for more robust
    foods like sauteing veggies and
    beef/pork go with high temps, for nondesript vittles like boneless/skinless
    chicken breasts and tofu go with medium temps... or better yet incinerate
    those.

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  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    "Robt E" <yahoo@robt_englund.com> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Teri wrote:
    > How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a
    > little first and then add the oil? or do you put the oil in the pan,
    > then heat? Does it make a difference? Thanks.
    > Teri

    Hot pan, cold oil, food won't stick.

    Really? Have a look here. Scroll down to the section headed "Hot Pan,
    Cold Oil"

    http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm

    Maybe you should read "This works of course, so it is not a myth in that it
    is untrue"

    Can we say NOT A MYTH?

    You can say whatever you wish.

  10. In rec.food.cooking said:

    Web site or not, it works for me!

    Of course it does. But adding the oil before turning up the heat would
    work exactly the same.

    --
    In the councils of government, we must guard against the
    acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought,
    by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the
    disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
    -- Dwight David Eisenhower

  11. In rec.food.cooking said:

    "Teri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan a little
    first and then add the oil?

    Quoted message said:

    Heat the pan until a drop of water "dances" on the surface and does not
    spread then add the oil.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Does it make a difference? Thanks.


    Yes it makes a very big difference

    How does that work?

    What is the science behind it?

    Or, alternatively, what is the common sense behind it?

    Or, alternatively, why is it that adding the oil before heating will not
    work as well?

    --
    In the councils of government, we must guard against the
    acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought,
    by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the
    disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
    -- Dwight David Eisenhower

  12. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Does it make a difference? Thanks.


    Yes it makes a very big difference

    How does that work?

    What is the science behind it?

    Or, alternatively, what is the common sense behind it?

    Or, alternatively, why is it that adding the oil before heating will not
    work as well?

    I think there are 2 portions to this.

    1. Most people do not heat their pans sufficiently before starting to
    fry/sauté/cook.
    2. Learning to read the viscosity change in the oil as it is heated is an
    art which I believe takes many years.
    3. It seems to me many cooks are "afraid" of heat when they first start
    cooking and therefore underheat the pans.
    4. IMHO it is not the pan they is cooking the food in most cases it is
    the medium that the pan is heating that is cooking the food.
    5. Cooking with fats at too low a temperature leads to increasing the
    absorption of the fats leading to greasy food. Sometimes you want that
    effect ( onions in butter) sometimes you don't (greasy fried Chicken).

    "Hot pan cold oil" is like an old wives tale it has a partial truth but the
    net effect is undeniable. Remember "an Apple a day keeps the Doctor away"
    Not really but an apple a day will increase the fiber in your diet.

    ;-)

    Dimitri

  13. In rec.food.cooking said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Does it make a difference? Thanks.
    Yes it makes a very big difference

    How does that work?

    What is the science behind it?

    Or, alternatively, what is the common sense behind it?

    Or, alternatively, why is it that adding the oil before heating will not
    work as well?

    Quoted message said:

    I think there are 2 portions to this.

    Quoted message said:

    1. Most people do not heat their pans sufficiently before starting to
    fry/saut?/cook.
    2. Learning to read the viscosity change in the oil as it is heated is an
    art which I believe takes many years.
    3. It seems to me many cooks are "afraid" of heat when they first start
    cooking and therefore underheat the pans.
    4. IMHO it is not the pan they is cooking the food in most cases it is
    the medium that the pan is heating that is cooking the food.
    5. Cooking with fats at too low a temperature leads to increasing the
    absorption of the fats leading to greasy food. Sometimes you want that
    effect ( onions in butter) sometimes you don't (greasy fried Chicken).

    Quoted message said:

    "Hot pan cold oil" is like an old wives tale it has a partial truth but the
    net effect is undeniable. Remember "an Apple a day keeps the Doctor away"
    Not really but an apple a day will increase the fiber in your diet.

    So, then it does NOT "make a very big difference"?

    --
    In the councils of government, we must guard against the
    acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought,
    by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the
    disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
    -- Dwight David Eisenhower

  14. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not really but an apple a day will increase the fiber in your diet.

    So, then it does NOT "make a very big difference"?

    I prefer to heat my pan before adding oil because I rarely
    stand there watching it and often forget about the pan
    because I'm doing other prep work... thank goodness cast
    iron can take a beating. If I had oil in the (by this time)
    overheated pan, the oil would have smoked/burned and could
    have possibly have started a kitchen fire.

    So, hot pan/cold oil works for me.

    The *difference* is that I don't have to deal with burned
    oil or a kitchen fire.

    sf

  15. In rec.food.cooking said:

    On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:58:34 +0000 (UTC),
    [email hidden] wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not really but an apple a day will increase the fiber in your diet.

    So, then it does NOT "make a very big difference"?

    Quoted message said:

    I prefer to heat my pan before adding oil because I rarely
    stand there watching it and often forget about the pan
    because I'm doing other prep work... thank goodness cast
    iron can take a beating. If I had oil in the (by this time)
    overheated pan, the oil would have smoked/burned and could
    have possibly have started a kitchen fire.

    Quoted message said:

    So, hot pan/cold oil works for me.

    It works fine. That's not really the question, tho. Nobody claims that
    it is a bad method.

    Quoted message said:

    The *difference* is that I don't have to deal with burned
    oil or a kitchen fire.

    Sure. But that has nothing to do with the question of whether that
    method is necessary to prevent food from sticking.

    --
    In the councils of government, we must guard against the
    acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought,
    by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the
    disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
    -- Dwight David Eisenhower

  16. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Hot pan cold oil" is like an old wives tale it has a partial truth but the

    Quoted message said:

    net effect is undeniable. Remember "an Apple a day keeps the Doctor away"
    Not really but an apple a day will increase the fiber in your diet.

    So, then it does NOT "make a very big difference"?

    Not for sauteeing; yes for stir-fry.

  17. Robt E said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Teri said:

    How exactly do you heat oil in a frying pan? Do you heat the pan


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    little first and then add the oil? or do you put the oil in the


    pan,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    then heat? Does it make a difference? Thanks.
    Teri

    Hot pan, cold oil, food won't stick.

    Really? Have a look here. Scroll down to the section headed "Hot Pan,

    Quoted message said:

    Cold Oil"

    http://www.pgacon.com/KitchenMyths.htm

    Doesn't matter what the "myth" site says - it isn't a myth because it
    works every time. And if you're frying stuff in just a little bit of
    oil, try doing it by heating both the pan and the oil at the same time
    - you'll never get the food out of the pan. We're not, of course,
    talking about non-stick pans.

    N.

  18. What kind of frying are we talking about here?

    1. Stir frying - I think this is where the "hot pan cold oil" method is
    used. At least I have only seen it mentioned in this context. This is
    probably because the amount of oil being used is very small and the wok
    is exposed to very high heat.

    2. Deep frying - "hot pan cold oil" will be a disaster
    3. Saute-ing - I don't think this will work either.

  19. In rec.food.cooking said:

    And if you're frying stuff in just a little bit of
    oil, try doing it by heating both the pan and the oil at the same time
    - you'll never get the food out of the pan.

    You'll believe just about anything, eh?

    --
    In the councils of government, we must guard against the
    acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought,
    by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the
    disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
    -- Dwight David Eisenhower

  20. In rec.food.cooking said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Hot pan cold oil" is like an old wives tale it has a partial truth but the

    Quoted message said:

    net effect is undeniable. Remember "an Apple a day keeps the Doctor away"
    Not really but an apple a day will increase the fiber in your diet.

    So, then it does NOT "make a very big difference"?

    Quoted message said:

    Not for sauteeing; yes for stir-fry.

    How so? Is it because the wok is heated past the smoking point of the
    oil, making it impractical to leave the oil in as the pan heats up?

    Or are you saying that heating the oil and the wok together will result
    in sticking food?

    --
    In the councils of government, we must guard against the
    acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought,
    by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the
    disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
    -- Dwight David Eisenhower

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