Smoking

Congratulations. Yes, I believe that does mean you are an official
non-smoker. But, take it from a 2 and a half year official non-smoker,
there are still times when I think I could have one. I've never done
it, but it has crossed my mind.

You must always be on your guard.

I keep waiting for the time when cigarette smoke will disgust me, but
it hasn't yet happened. I still like the way it smells and I sometimes
go out of my way (walk near the smoking section in a restaurant) to get
a whiff.

JM

"kaye" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
: Ok, so last night I was out on the lash (I don't do it often at all), and
a
: colleague offered me a cigarette. So after lighting up the penny dropped.
: I slurred "Gosh I forgot, I don't smoke" and handed the cigarette to
someone
: who still does.

What does it mean "out on the lash?"

Pat in TX

kaye said:

Ok, so last night I was out on the lash (I don't do it often at all), and a
colleague offered me a cigarette. So after lighting up the penny dropped.
I slurred "Gosh I forgot, I don't smoke" and handed the cigarette to someone
who still does.

Thats a corner stone. Before I've fallen down on smoking after I've had a
few too many. Does this mean that I am officially a non-smoker? I think
so.

a non-smoker would not have taken one in the first place.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(The Queen of Cans and Jars) said:

kaye said:

Ok, so last night I was out on the lash (I don't do it often at all), and a
colleague offered me a cigarette. So after lighting up the penny dropped.
I slurred "Gosh I forgot, I don't smoke" and handed the cigarette to someone
who still does.

Thats a corner stone. Before I've fallen down on smoking after I've had a
few too many. Does this mean that I am officially a non-smoker? I think
so.

a non-smoker would not have taken one in the first place.

I know some social smokers who have one or two when they're out with their
smoking friends, but otherwise don't smoke. I think they're either
ignorant or stupid, because it's still terribly bad for you just to have a
few occasionally.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Luna said:

(The Queen of Cans and Jars) said:

kaye said:

Ok, so last night I was out on the lash (I don't do it often at all),
and a colleague offered me a cigarette. So after lighting up the
penny dropped. I slurred "Gosh I forgot, I don't smoke" and handed the
cigarette to someone who still does.

Thats a corner stone. Before I've fallen down on smoking after I've had a
few too many. Does this mean that I am officially a non-smoker? I think
so.

a non-smoker would not have taken one in the first place.

I know some social smokers who have one or two when they're out with their
smoking friends, but otherwise don't smoke.

people who smoke are not non-smokers, whether they smoke a pack a day or
a pack a year.

--
Don't use that magical, mysterious, joy fantastic fascinating word called
love unless you love me to the nines."
"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"kaye" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
: Ok, so last night I was out on the lash (I don't do it often at all),
and
a
: colleague offered me a cigarette. So after lighting up the penny
dropped.
: I slurred "Gosh I forgot, I don't smoke" and handed the cigarette to
someone
: who still does.

What does it mean "out on the lash?"

Pat in TX

Pat

Out on the lash, it means that I was out drinking. There is this vodka bar
in Winchester, where they do about 30+ different flavours. I got stuck on
blackjack flavour. Yum.

My good boss left the company that I work for. I don't normally go out
drinking, but seeing as I really liked my boss, I did. So now I have sore
feet, and I am left with the not so good boss.

Kaye

I used to smoke if I was out with a group a friends and had one too
many Margaritas LOL I have never smoked any other time. I think the
shock value is what was fun. People look at you and go "Laureen WTF are
you doing????" Of course there was also the night I got up and sang
Blue Bayou by Linda Rondstadt when the kareoke sp? mike opened. OMG!
Those were the days LOL!!!!! One night I sang Black Dog and people
threw dollar bills at you if they liked you. Hell, made a few bucks!
LOL. I would no more go up and sing than the I would fart in public but
in a few months now hhmmmmmm I just might LOL!!!!

kaye said:

Ok, so last night I was out on the lash (I don't do it often at all), and a
colleague offered me a cigarette. So after lighting up the penny dropped.
I slurred "Gosh I forgot, I don't smoke" and handed the cigarette to someone
who still does.

Thats a corner stone. Before I've fallen down on smoking after I've had a
few too many. Does this mean that I am officially a non-smoker? I think
so.

Now thats official, I can get on with losing my quitting smoking weight.
Huzzah.

Kaye

Good going.

I'm now almost a 20 year non-smoker (sometime this year is the
anniversary).

Eventually, you automatically don't smoke, and no longer need deliberate
will power.

Glad you had the will power and used it.

Jim

"Jim Marnott" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

Quoted message said:

Congratulations. Yes, I believe that does mean you are an official
non-smoker. But, take it from a 2 and a half year official non-smoker,
there are still times when I think I could have one. I've never done
it, but it has crossed my mind.

You must always be on your guard.

I keep waiting for the time when cigarette smoke will disgust me, but
it hasn't yet happened. I still like the way it smells and I sometimes
go out of my way (walk near the smoking section in a restaurant) to get
a whiff.

I quit nearly 25 years ago. There are still times - once or twice a year -
when I dream I'm smoking the most wonderful tasting cigarette ever made. I
have to get up and check around the bed to make sure I don't find ashes or
matches...just to be sure....

In article <[email hidden]>,

Graphic Queen said:

Luna said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(The Queen of Cans and Jars) said:

kaye <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Ok, so last night I was out on the lash (I don't do it often at all),
> and a
> colleague offered me a cigarette. So after lighting up the penny
> dropped.
> I slurred "Gosh I forgot, I don't smoke" and handed the cigarette to
> someone
> who still does.
>
> Thats a corner stone. Before I've fallen down on smoking after I've had
> a
> few too many. Does this mean that I am officially a non-smoker? I
> think
> so.

a non-smoker would not have taken one in the first place.

I know some social smokers who have one or two when they're out with their
smoking friends, but otherwise don't smoke. I think they're either
ignorant or stupid, because it's still terribly bad for you just to have a
few occasionally.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Are you jealous?

Not so much. I don't get it though. I started smoking because I was
stupid, and continued because I was addicted. These "social smokers"
aren't addicted, so why are they smoking?

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Luna said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Graphic Queen said:

Luna said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

> kaye <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> > Ok, so last night I was out on the lash (I don't do it often at all),
> > and a
> > colleague offered me a cigarette. So after lighting up the penny
> > dropped.
> > I slurred "Gosh I forgot, I don't smoke" and handed the cigarette to
> > someone
> > who still does.
> >
> > Thats a corner stone. Before I've fallen down on smoking after
> > I've had a few too many. Does this mean that I am officially a
> > non-smoker? I think so.
>
> a non-smoker would not have taken one in the first place.

I know some social smokers who have one or two when they're out with their
smoking friends, but otherwise don't smoke. I think they're either
ignorant or stupid, because it's still terribly bad for you just to have a
few occasionally.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Are you jealous?

Not so much. I don't get it though. I started smoking because I was
stupid, and continued because I was addicted. These "social smokers"
aren't addicted, so why are they smoking?

maybe they enjoy it.

:
: I keep waiting for the time when cigarette smoke will disgust me, but
: it hasn't yet happened. I still like the way it smells and I sometimes
: go out of my way (walk near the smoking section in a restaurant) to get
: a whiff.
:
: JM

One of my earliest memories is my mother tucking me in to bed and leaning
over me to kiss me goodnight---with cigarette breath. Ask your kids if they
like how it smells....

Pat in TX
:

G.Q. wrote:
|| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:39:00 -0600, "Pat"
|| <[email hidden]>
|| wrote:
||

Actually heard news piece today where some researchers in one
of those scandinavia countries determined that smoking reduced
your chances of get Parkinson's Dieases. It was a study using
identical twins. They found the twin that smoked was less likely
to contract Parkinson's.

BJ

: >One of my earliest memories is my mother tucking me in to bed and leaning
: >over me to kiss me goodnight---with cigarette breath. Ask your kids if
they
: >like how it smells....
: >
: >Pat in TX
: >:
: >
: You know, I did quite just the other day but many of you do seem to
: think you have the right to tell someone else how to live their lives.

Only the religious right does that. Others, like me, are trying to point out
the dangers of cigarette smoking. I guess I hit a nerve with you.

: It really doesn't matter if you personally like the smell of cigs at
: all. It is up to the person smoking and guess what? Children didn't
: die from their parent's smoking when I was young.

Oh, yeah they did--but it wasn't recognized as being from that. Take
emphysema for example. It kills non-smokers but they get it from someone in
their household smoking. And, not only that; it has been proven that kids
are more likely to get asthma from being around parents that smoke. But,
you are wrong when you say, "It is up to the person smoking" if they like
the smell of cigarettes. They affect their children, not just themselves.

Half of the scares
: out there are just that...SCARESZ and nothing more. Smoking is not
: good for one's body but it isn't what the government is telling you
: either.

It's called "denial".

I would be willing to bet that you also believe that Pot will
: lead you to use Heroin too. hahahahaha That is another of the
: government lies. There are all kinds of stuff that aren't good for the
: body and I would be willing to bet that you do or consume some of them
: so really none of you have any right to put someone else down for
: smoking. And the worse thing in the world is a damn reformed smoker,
: kind of like an idiot who has supposedly been saved and all.
:
: GQ (off soapbox now)

I don't believe "pot" will lead to heroin use. You are projecting your fears
on other people. "The right to put someone else down for smoking" is from
experience of the dangers of smoking. The "worse thing in the world" is not
a reformed smoker---it's people like you who try to deny deny deny there is
a problem.

Pat in TX

:
: Actually heard news piece today where some researchers in one
: of those scandinavia countries determined that smoking reduced
: your chances of get Parkinson's Dieases. It was a study using
: identical twins. They found the twin that smoked was less likely
: to contract Parkinson's.
:
: BJ

"The association in part is explained by genetic influences," Dr. Nancy L.
Pedersen from the Karolinska Institute, Stockholm, told Reuters Health.
"Hence, further attempts to study risk factors in general for Parkinson's
disease should entertain the possibility that there are complex interactions
between genetic mechanisms and putative risk factors."

"We have not planned any further studies directly, although we may be
exploring whether there is a genetic interaction between smoking and certain
genes," Pedersen said.

Choose your father and mother carefully.

Pat in TX
:
:

G.Q.-Good for you on quiting, I wish you luck. As to "the government"
trying to scare people about smoking, I'm not sure I know what you mean,
I personally have not seen any sinister black helicopters hovering about
pulling banners depicting Joe Camel being burned in effigy, but given
the billions in tax dollars spent on tobacco subsidies, any anti-smoking
agenda is certainly a mixed message at best. In any case, the American
Lung Association, American Heart Association, American Cancer Society
and similar groups have a LOT to say about smoking, and none of it is
good. As Pat has mentioned, second hand smoke does indeed harm children
in a house with smoking parents. It's the nature of scientific
knowledge to increase over time; simply because something was not
recognized as a problem years ago does not mean the threat didn't exist.
Even if 2nd hand smoke were not an issue, the diseases caused by
smoking are born by all members of the society in a myriad of ways, not
simply by those puffing away. And come on, the red herring about
marijuana leading to heroin? No one has seriously attempted to make
that connection since the "Reefer Madness" days. Hate to sound like one
of those rabid reformed smokers you refer to, but I smoked back when I
was a dumb teenager about 25 years ago. It has to be just about the
stupidest behavior anyone can engage in. Good for you on quiting, KEEP
IT UP!

Dan

BTW I'll say this about the government & smoking, I WHOLE HEARTEDLY
APPLAUD initiatives to ban smoking in public places such as bars &
restaurants, like the one recently passed in my home town of Columbus,
Ohio. Used to be my wife and I had to wait for our visits to places
like NYC & LA before we could have the freedom to simply walk into any
such establishment, sit down at the bar or a table & enjoy ourselves
without having the experience degraded by the byproducts of someone
else's bad habit. Even if such exposure DOESN'T inflict any lasting
harm, it's damned annoying and makes it impossible to savor a good food
& drink.

G.Q. said:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:39:00 -0600, "Pat" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

:
: I keep waiting for the time when cigarette smoke will disgust me, but
: it hasn't yet happened. I still like the way it smells and I sometimes
: go out of my way (walk near the smoking section in a restaurant) to get
: a whiff.
:
: JM

One of my earliest memories is my mother tucking me in to bed and leaning
over me to kiss me goodnight---with cigarette breath. Ask your kids if they
like how it smells....

Pat in TX
:

You know, I did quite just the other day but many of you do seem to
think you have the right to tell someone else how to live their lives.
It really doesn't matter if you personally like the smell of cigs at
all. It is up to the person smoking and guess what? Children didn't
die from their parent's smoking when I was young. Half of the scares
out there are just that...SCARESZ and nothing more. Smoking is not
good for one's body but it isn't what the government is telling you
either. I would be willing to bet that you also believe that Pot will
lead you to use Heroin too. hahahahaha That is another of the
government lies. There are all kinds of stuff that aren't good for the
body and I would be willing to bet that you do or consume some of them
so really none of you have any right to put someone else down for
smoking. And the worse thing in the world is a damn reformed smoker,
kind of like an idiot who has supposedly been saved and all.

GQ (off soapbox now)

BJ-Saw a report of another twin study, the twin who blew his brains out
at 19 managed to avoid everything from Alzheimer's and Parkinson's to
hemorrhoids, baldness and divorce!

;-)

Dan

BJ in Texas said:

G.Q. wrote:
|| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:39:00 -0600, "Pat"
|| <[email hidden]>
|| wrote:
||

Actually heard news piece today where some researchers in one
of those scandinavia countries determined that smoking reduced
your chances of get Parkinson's Dieases. It was a study using
identical twins. They found the twin that smoked was less likely
to contract Parkinson's.

BJ

G.Q. wrote:
Ahh, you're just grouchy on account of the withdrawal!

I don't recall smoking ever being mentioned as an inalienable right in
the constitution, bill of rights or elsewhere, but as the old saying
goes, your right to throw a punch ends at my nose.

I'll leave you with a favorite quote by Mark Twain: "Quitting smoking is
easy; I've done it hundreds of times!".

Cheers!

Dan

Quoted message said:

Like I said in another post of mine, there was always restaurants that
had no smoking. There was no reason to inflict your will onto others
except for the fact it makes many people feel so special. This is all
I will say about this. I believe in the Constitution and people who
believe in taking others' rights away don't as much.

Thanks again for your luck though. I am glad that you are happy about
your quitting.

Quoted message said:

G.Q. said:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:39:00 -0600, "Pat" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

>:
>: I keep waiting for the time when cigarette smoke will disgust me, but
>: it hasn't yet happened. I still like the way it smells and I sometimes
>: go out of my way (walk near the smoking section in a restaurant) to get
>: a whiff.
>:
>: JM
>
>One of my earliest memories is my mother tucking me in to bed and leaning
>over me to kiss me goodnight---with cigarette breath. Ask your kids if they
>like how it smells....
>
>Pat in TX
>:
>

You know, I did quite just the other day but many of you do seem to
think you have the right to tell someone else how to live their lives.
It really doesn't matter if you personally like the smell of cigs at
all. It is up to the person smoking and guess what? Children didn't
die from their parent's smoking when I was young. Half of the scares
out there are just that...SCARESZ and nothing more. Smoking is not
good for one's body but it isn't what the government is telling you
either. I would be willing to bet that you also believe that Pot will
lead you to use Heroin too. hahahahaha That is another of the
government lies. There are all kinds of stuff that aren't good for the
body and I would be willing to bet that you do or consume some of them
so really none of you have any right to put someone else down for
smoking. And the worse thing in the world is a damn reformed smoker,
kind of like an idiot who has supposedly been saved and all.

GQ (off soapbox now)

My, my. Perhaps a little nicorette...

G.Q. said:

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:56:10 -0500, Dan <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

G.Q. wrote:
Ahh, you're just grouchy on account of the withdrawal!

No withdrawal or didn't you read what I posted? I don't smoke like so
many do. I have some and then I don't for a long time then I have some
again.

I am serious...I will not reply to anything else from you in this
thread because you just proved that you don't know what I posted and
you sure don't understand what FREEDOM means.