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  1. It's often an ingredient on Iron Chef. I have no idea what it is.
    Anybody?

    modom

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    -- Jimmie Dale Gilmore

  2. Strong flour = flour with a high protein content.

    For example, strong flour = Whole Wheat (hard) 13 - 14 % All types of
    baking. Best used in combination (50/50) with bread or all-purpose flour .

    Strong white flour = Durham 13 % Pasta; Bread 13 % Best for yeast breads,
    cream puffs, puff pastry, popovers, strudels, and croissants

    For all about flour, click here:
    http://www.baking911.com/pantry_flour,grains2.htm

  3. On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:25:26 -0600, Michael Odom <[email hidden]>

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    It's often an ingredient on Iron Chef. I have no idea what it is.
    Anybody?

    Higher protein content than what we call "all purpose." It's usually
    used for bread and is a common term in the UK.

    Boron

  4. you might call it "hi-gluten flour". Produces chewier, denser product.

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    It's often an ingredient on Iron Chef. I have no idea what it is.
    Anybody?

    modom

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    -- Jimmie Dale Gilmore

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    you might call it "hi-gluten flour". Produces chewier, denser product.

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    It's often an ingredient on Iron Chef. I have no idea what it is.
    Anybody?

    modom

    "Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
    -- Jimmie Dale Gilmore



    Perhaps chewier, but not denser--just the opposite.

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    you might call it "hi-gluten flour". Produces chewier, denser product.

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    It's often an ingredient on Iron Chef. I have no idea what it is.
    Anybody?

    modom

    "Dallas is a rich man with a death wish in his eyes."
    -- Jimmie Dale Gilmore



    Perhaps chewier, but not denser--just the opposite.


    I agree, it has more gluten, which means it will stretch more, and be able
    to produce a lighter bread.

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    you might call it "hi-gluten flour". Produces chewier, denser product.

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    Perhaps chewier, but not denser--just the opposite.


    I agree, it has more gluten, which means it will stretch more, and be able
    to produce a lighter bread.

    I meant the chewiness, since hi-gluten will produce larger air cavities,
    denser was not the correct description. Shortbreads are denser and heavier.

  8. Janet Bostwick said:

    Perhaps chewier, but not denser--just the opposite.

    Howdy,

    Then why would you understand the French to use a lower
    protein flour to make baguettes?

    Thanks,

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    Kenneth

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    Janet Bostwick said:

    Perhaps chewier, but not denser--just the opposite.

    Howdy,

    Then why would you understand the French to use a lower
    protein flour to make baguettes?

    Thanks,

    --
    Kenneth

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    Only a broad generalization in response to a broad generalization. I'm sure
    that you as a skilled baker already know that AP or bread flour can work
    with great results on all bread types. When a skilled baker is aiming
    toward a particular crumb, crust and taste, it pays to choose a flour that
    will work the most in your favor. Would you go along with AP flour can
    produce a crumb that is more tender and bread flour can produce a crumb that
    is more chewy? I say 'can' because I am sure that both you and I can
    produce a chewy AP bread and a tender bread flour bread. The French make
    bread from wheat/flour that is available to them If North Americans want to
    replicate a true French baguette it would be best to seek out a French-type
    flour.
    Janet

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    Janet Bostwick said:

    Perhaps chewier, but not denser--just the opposite.

    Howdy,

    Then why would you understand the French to use a lower
    protein flour to make baguettes?

    Thanks,

    --
    Kenneth

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    Only a broad generalization in response to a broad generalization. I'm sure
    that you as a skilled baker already know that AP or bread flour can work
    with great results on all bread types. When a skilled baker is aiming
    toward a particular crumb, crust and taste, it pays to choose a flour that
    will work the most in your favor. Would you go along with AP flour can
    produce a crumb that is more tender and bread flour can produce a crumb that
    is more chewy? I say 'can' because I am sure that both you and I can
    produce a chewy AP bread and a tender bread flour bread. The French make
    bread from wheat/flour that is available to them If North Americans want to
    replicate a true French baguette it would be best to seek out a French-type
    flour.
    Janet

    Hi Janet,

    I do agree with what you have above.

    I was responding to the earlier post (perhaps not yours)
    that higher protein made for "lighter" bread. That is not my
    experience.

    All the best,

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    Kenneth

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    Hi Janet,

    I do agree with what you have above.

    I was responding to the earlier post (perhaps not yours)
    that higher protein made for "lighter" bread. That is not my
    experience.

    All the best,

    --
    Kenneth


    Hi Kenneth,

    I don't understand. In my experience, a high protein flour(around 14%)makes
    very nicely light bread. It may be that we would have to have some loaves
    side-by-side in order to compare what is meant by light, tender etc. If I
    choose, I can make bread as 'light' as any store bought bread with the high
    protein flour. However, the crumb will not compress and stay compacted the
    way store-bought bread will.

    Janet

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    Hi Janet,

    I do agree with what you have above.

    I was responding to the earlier post (perhaps not yours)
    that higher protein made for "lighter" bread. That is not my
    experience.

    All the best,

    --
    Kenneth


    Hi Kenneth,

    I don't understand. In my experience, a high protein flour(around 14%)makes
    very nicely light bread. It may be that we would have to have some loaves
    side-by-side in order to compare what is meant by light, tender etc. If I
    choose, I can make bread as 'light' as any store bought bread with the high
    protein flour. However, the crumb will not compress and stay compacted the
    way store-bought bread will.

    Janet

    Hi Janet,

    I am not trying to fuss semantically... <g>

    When I say "light" I mean that the weight of the loaf is low
    in relation to its volume. (An inflated balloon would be
    v-e-r-y light...)

    Using that idea, it seems to me that the lightest free form
    loaves I have seen are the yeasted baguettes sold at most
    bakeries in France.

    All the best,

    --
    Kenneth

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