Re: Soymilk

"Juhana Harju" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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TC said:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/onewoman.html

Soy is not real food.

I would like to see more than only anecdotal evidence.

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Juhana

http://www.mothering.com/articles/growing_child/food/soy_story.html

René

Knock yourself out....

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html

TC

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Knock yourself out....

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http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html

Interesting site. There is some good advice in there, but it's mixed
with bad. The bad being statements suggesting the increased
consumption of animal fats... something I don't buy. While some meat
is good for you, increasing your consumption of lard, bacon, butter, is
advice I wouldn't take. This makes me very suspect of their anti-soy
stance.

Patrick

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TC said:

Knock yourself out....

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http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html

Interesting site. There is some good advice in there, but it's mixed
with bad. The bad being statements suggesting the increased
consumption of animal fats... something I don't buy. While some meat
is good for you, increasing your consumption of lard, bacon, butter, is
advice I wouldn't take. This makes me very suspect of their anti-soy
stance.

Patrick

You need to look a little deeper also. They only recommend pastured meats
(beef, chicken, etc.), raw milk, butter made from raw milk and although lard
is good, coconut oil is even better. The main premise is stay away from
vegetable oils. Bacon...I don't recall too much of that. Fermentation is
used a lot. You really can't buy anything at the supermarket and eat the
WAP way. Absolutely no processed food at all. No white sugar (except in
making kombucha), no white flour. If you read Nourishing Traditions by
Sally Fallon (http://www.newtrendspublishing.com/SallyFallon/), it all makes
sense. You need to whole picture before making a judgment.

René

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Knock yourself out....

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http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html

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Interesting site. There is some good advice in there, but it's

mixed

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with bad. The bad being statements suggesting the increased
consumption of animal fats... something I don't buy. While some

meat

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is good for you, increasing your consumption of lard, bacon,

butter, is

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advice I wouldn't take. This makes me very suspect of their

anti-soy

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stance.

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You need to look a little deeper also. They only recommend pastured

meats

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(beef, chicken, etc.), raw milk, butter made from raw milk

Pastured meats, oh heck yeah! Raw milk products... you don't always
know were those udders have been.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4230005

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and although lard
is good,

Physiologically we're closer to vegeterians than carnivores. I'll
stick with plant-based oils.

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coconut oil is even better.

Coconut isn't the villian it was made out to be. I wouldn't avoid it,
but there are better choices.

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The main premise is stay away from
vegetable oils.

See above.

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Bacon...I don't recall too much of that.

Yeah, and they listed sausage too. No thanks.

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Fermentation is
used a lot. You really can't buy anything at the supermarket and eat

the

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WAP way. Absolutely no processed food at all.

I say it depends on how it's processed. Adulterated, no. Whole foods
mixed with other whole foods, definately good.

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No white sugar (except in
making kombucha), no white flour.

Ideally, yes. Though very small amounts won't harm you.

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If you read Nourishing Traditions by
Sally Fallon (http://www.newtrendspublishing.com/SallyFallon/), it

all makes

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sense. You need to whole picture before making a judgment.

My thing is soy is being trashed like coconut and eggs were before. I
think the meat and diary guys are hard at work to destroy any
competition.

You'll see... soy will be found good.

Patrick

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Physiologically we're closer to vegeterians than carnivores. I'll
stick with plant-based oils.

Absolute garbage. Physiologically we are carnivorous omnivores.

We have cutting and tearing teeth similar to all predators as opposed
to crushing teeth like cows.

We have both eyes in front giving us excellent depth perception for
hunting as opposed to grass eaters that have large eyes on the side of
their heads and excellent peripheral vision to see predators.

Our GI tract is short like other predators and meat eaters as opposed
to the long GI tracts and multiple stomachs.

These are only a few of the many physiological traits that brand us as
a primarily carnivorous animal.

TC

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Physiologically we're closer to vegeterians than carnivores. I'll
stick with plant-based oils.

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Absolute garbage. Physiologically we are carnivorous omnivores.

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We have cutting and tearing teeth similar to all predators as opposed
to crushing teeth like cows.

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We have both eyes in front giving us excellent depth perception for
hunting as opposed to grass eaters that have large eyes on the side

of

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their heads and excellent peripheral vision to see predators.

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Our GI tract is short like other predators and meat eaters as opposed
to the long GI tracts and multiple stomachs.

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These are only a few of the many physiological traits that brand us

as

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a primarily carnivorous animal.

TC,

I tell you what. I'll eat _raw_ fruits and vegetables. You eat _raw_
meat like the other primarily carnivourous creatures. Wanna place a
bet on who'll live longer?

Patrick