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  1. Attended a bike auction yesterday. There were about 200 bikes up for sale
    and perhaps because it was a cold and snowy day there were less than 50
    buyers. Observations:

    All but 2 of the bikes were department store models. Prominent names:

    Supercycle
    Infinity
    Dunlop
    Schwinn
    Huffy
    Murray
    Free Spirit

    The majority of the bikes had steel rims, drivetrains that needed a complete
    replacement, stuck gearing and chains made of solid rust, seized wheel
    bearings etc.

    Interesting that the first and last time I attended a police auction (about
    15 years ago), the dominant type of bike on the block were 27" wheel
    10-speeds from the 70's bike boom and relatively unused 700c wheel bikes
    from the 80's touring bike boom/bust. I saw only 3 road-style bikes for
    sale. Mountain bikes appear have completely taken over the low/mid market.

    Bid prices ranged from $25 to as high of $300 Canadian Pesos at the very
    start. Initial prices were about 1/2 of new, as the Type-A bidders
    scrabbled against each other to "win". Bid prices were directly
    proportional to the number of speeds on the bike. The auctioneer pushed
    hard the bikes that had 24-speed drivetrains and the useless suspension
    found on the current generation of X-Mart bikes.

    Non-suspended bikes were sorted and put at the end of the line, presumably
    because the expectation that they would have to be thrown away.

    I only saw one bike that was even slightly interesting, a
    cosmetically-challenged Ritchey rigid mountain bike from around 1987. XT II
    groupset in reasonably good shape. The front wheel was sitting next to the
    bike. It was one of the 5 or so bikes that had quick-release wheels, and
    someone had popped both quick-releases. Because of this, the bike was
    likely categorized as be "broken" by the sales staff, and therefore placed
    at the very end of the line with all the really really bad bikes. Bikes
    that were more rust than bike, or looked like they had been used as speed
    bump by a large vehicle. God knows what happened to the riders... Perhaps
    this is why these bikes were at a police auction. Evidence from past
    vehicular homicide cases...

    Anyway, the Ritchey would likely not attract any bids. I was tempted to
    spend $10 to save it from a the crusher, but it would have taken 2 hours of
    waiting in a pretty depressing environment.

    Total time at auction: 15 minutes.

  2. Dave Mayer said:

    Bikes that were more rust than bike, or looked like they had been used as speed
    bump by a large vehicle. God knows what happened to the riders... Perhaps
    this is why these bikes were at a police auction. Evidence from past
    vehicular homicide cases...

    Anyway, the Ritchey would likely not attract any bids. I was tempted to
    spend $10 to save it from a the crusher, but it would have taken 2 hours of
    waiting in a pretty depressing environment.

    I purchased a bike at police auction that had clearly been in a
    collision with a car or truck - mostly for the parts, but I did
    straighten the stays out enough to be rideable for my college GF. Turns
    out it was supposed to have been tagged for evidence but the police
    screwed it up. The guy who was hit was suing for big money and his
    lawyers had purchased a brand new bike of the same model to use in an
    accident reconstruction - but then they found me and I convinced them to
    trade. Wound up with a new bike in trade for a $35 police wreck and
    some rebuilt wheels.

    --
    My bike blog:
    http://diabloscott.blogspot.com/

  3. Diablo Scott said:
    Dave Mayer said:

    Bikes that were more rust than bike, or looked like they had been used
    as speed bump by a large vehicle. God knows what happened to the
    riders... Perhaps this is why these bikes were at a police auction.
    Evidence from past vehicular homicide cases...

    Anyway, the Ritchey would likely not attract any bids. I was tempted
    to spend $10 to save it from a the crusher, but it would have taken 2
    hours of waiting in a pretty depressing environment.

    I purchased a bike at police auction that had clearly been in a
    collision with a car or truck - mostly for the parts, but I did
    straighten the stays out enough to be rideable for my college GF. Turns
    out it was supposed to have been tagged for evidence but the police
    screwed it up. The guy who was hit was suing for big money and his
    lawyers had purchased a brand new bike of the same model to use in an
    accident reconstruction - but then they found me and I convinced them to
    trade. Wound up with a new bike in trade for a $35 police wreck and
    some rebuilt wheels.


    At the risk of being heckled as a dumpster diver here is one to
    consider, go to the local dump and ask if you can buy parts or whole
    bikes for salvage. I used to do that when I worked in Healdsburg and the
    county dump was a 5 minute car drive away. It turns out that California,
    home of the self indulgent and often overpaid, has a number of people
    who just throw out a perfectly good bike rather than bother themselves
    with a yard sale or something that might hurt their image.
    I had to pass on some rather expensive bikes due to limited trunk space
    and it hurt to think that a $500 bike might just become scrap metal
    because it was 4 or 5 years old and not shiny enough.
    Some people have too much money and not enough brains, kind of going
    against the whole Darwin thing.
    Bill Baka

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Some people have too much money and not enough brains, kind of going
    against the whole Darwin thing.

    I wouldn't complain. It is those folks that make it possible for other
    folks to get really cheap, or free, stuff.
    ---------------
    Alex

  5. Bill Baka said:
    Quoted message said:


    At the risk of being heckled as a dumpster diver here is one to
    consider, go to the local dump and ask if you can buy parts or whole
    bikes for salvage.

    I've been known to at least yank out the shimano-style quick releases
    from bikes in the metal pile at my local transfer station - no shame in
    that.

    Oh wait...I did actually salvage an nice 80's Fuji that looked like it
    was just walked out of the bike shop except that it had no wheels. I
    plan on turning it into a singlespeed and seeing if some aspiring bike
    messenger will take it off my hands for a few bucks.

  6. Hi Kyle
    What is a local "local transfer station"?
    Sorry for quote style, John

  7. Kyle.B.H. said:
    Bill Baka said:
    Quoted message said:


    At the risk of being heckled as a dumpster diver here is one to
    consider, go to the local dump and ask if you can buy parts or whole
    bikes for salvage.

    I've been known to at least yank out the shimano-style quick releases
    from bikes in the metal pile at my local transfer station - no shame in
    that.

    Oh wait...I did actually salvage an nice 80's Fuji that looked like it
    was just walked out of the bike shop except that it had no wheels. I
    plan on turning it into a singlespeed and seeing if some aspiring bike
    messenger will take it off my hands for a few bucks.

    I got at least some of my odd assortment of cranks and chain rings by
    way of a crank puller tool that I kept with me. Just getting a few fully
    changeable cranks with 3 gears to mix and match made it worth the
    bother. Better than Ebay since I got to look and see if it was worth the
    3 minutes and $2.00 for a good Shimano set. Where do collectors' items
    come from? Collectors like me. I only have a Schwinn Super Sport and a
    vintage early French Motobecane by chance of finding them. Sure beats
    yard sales.
    Bill Baka

  8. On 12 Jan 2005 19:28:45 -0800, [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Kyle
    What is a local "local transfer station"?
    Sorry for quote style, John

    Dear John,

    "Solid Waste Transfer Station
    Local citizens and haulers bring trash, recyclables, and
    yard trim here. Material is then delivered to its
    corresponding facility for processing."

    http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/swstmpl.asp?url=/content/dpwt/SolidWaste/facilities/transferstation.asp

    Basically, it's where you drop off trash and it gets sorted
    out. A front end for a garbage dump. A dump with a Phd.

    Carl Fogel

  9. Quoted message said:

    Hi Kyle
    What is a local "local transfer station"?
    Sorry for quote style, John

    It's for towns run by do-gooders who a) don't want unsightful trash cans
    outside their pristine neighborhoods of million dollar homes once a
    week, and b) probably want to teach the residents of the town a lesson
    about how much trash we create. So every household, big and small, young
    and old, treks to the transfer station with trash cans in their trunks,
    instead of paying waste management to hire one truck and 3 garbagemen to
    do the job much more efficiently. Oh, and it still costs us $150 a year
    for access to the transfer station.

    But at least I get free bike garbage once in a while!

    Kyle

  10. Kyle.B.H. said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi Kyle
    What is a local "local transfer station"?
    Sorry for quote style, John

    It's for towns run by do-gooders who a) don't want unsightful trash cans
    outside their pristine neighborhoods of million dollar homes once a
    week, and b) probably want to teach the residents of the town a lesson
    about how much trash we create. So every household, big and small, young
    and old, treks to the transfer station with trash cans in their trunks,
    instead of paying waste management to hire one truck and 3 garbagemen to
    do the job much more efficiently. Oh, and it still costs us $150 a year
    for access to the transfer station.

    Dear Kyle:
    Not.

    That is, transfer stations need not involve all the mess you describe
    above. Our county has a transfer station. It also has curbside trash
    pick-up and curbside recycling.

    At our transfer station, one can dump stuff that's too big for the
    garbage can, recycle a vast array of materials (e.g. bulk scrap metal,
    car batteries, old computers, etc.). Nonrecyclables go from there to
    the county incinerator. It's also where the curbside pickup goes (I
    gather; it's certainly big enough.)

    In short, a transfer station *can* be where the trash is *transferred*
    from the private haulers[1] to the county incinerator crew.

    Haven't seen much in the way of bikes/parts there.

    [1]Around here, garbage pick up is run by multiple private haulers, who
    get a monopoly from the ?city? ?county? for each sector of town.

    Mark "do gooder sometimes" Janeba

  11. Mark Janeba said:
    Kyle.B.H. said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi Kyle
    What is a local "local transfer station"?
    Sorry for quote style, John

    It's for towns run by do-gooders who a) don't want unsightful trash
    cans outside their pristine neighborhoods of million dollar homes once
    a week, and b) probably want to teach the residents of the town a
    lesson about how much trash we create. So every household, big and
    small, young and old, treks to the transfer station with trash cans in
    their trunks, instead of paying waste management to hire one truck and
    3 garbagemen to do the job much more efficiently. Oh, and it still
    costs us $150 a year for access to the transfer station.

    Dear Kyle:
    Not.

    That is, transfer stations need not involve all the mess you describe
    above. Our county has a transfer station. It also has curbside trash
    pick-up and curbside recycling.

    At our transfer station, one can dump stuff that's too big for the
    garbage can, recycle a vast array of materials (e.g. bulk scrap metal,
    car batteries, old computers, etc.). Nonrecyclables go from there to
    the county incinerator. It's also where the curbside pickup goes (I
    gather; it's certainly big enough.)

    In short, a transfer station *can* be where the trash is *transferred*
    from the private haulers[1] to the county incinerator crew.

    Haven't seen much in the way of bikes/parts there.

    [1]Around here, garbage pick up is run by multiple private haulers, who
    get a monopoly from the ?city? ?county? for each sector of town.

    Mark "do gooder sometimes" Janeba

    Great. My diatribe was directed not at transfer stations, but at the
    town that chooses not to employ curbside pickup, which is ridiculous
    whether the picked up goes to a transfer station or another type of
    processing facility.

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