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  1. I took a turn through the park on the way home last night thinking that
    staying away fron the road would be safer. Hah!

    I heard a funny cracking sound to my left and a huge tree was uprooted
    by the wind and came crashing down, luckily away from me but it scared
    the c%%%p outta me.

    I took up a LOT of the road on the rest of the way home and the drivers
    were magnificent (there, I've said it!) oh, except for the driving
    instructor who blasted his horn at me for being well out in the lane
    (on a DC). Thanks mate, I wish I'd had the spare capacity to note your
    telephone number and make some crank appointments for lessons!
    Excitement.

    BigRab

  2. BigRab said:

    I took up a LOT of the road on the rest of the way home and the drivers
    were magnificent (there, I've said it!) oh, except for the driving
    instructor who blasted his horn at me for being well out in the lane
    (on a DC).

    I seem to get more abuse for taking the lane where there's an additional
    lane for following vehicles to overtake than on single carriageway roads,
    though one would expect the opposite. No idea why, though I guess it must
    make sense to the irate cagers responsible.

    Regards,

    -david

  3. On 12 Jan 2005 03:23:00 -0800 someone who may be "BigRab"
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    I took up a LOT of the road on the rest of the way home and the drivers
    were magnificent (there, I've said it!) oh, except for the driving
    instructor who blasted his horn at me for being well out in the lane
    (on a DC).

    There do seem to be rather a high proportion of driving instructors
    who should not even be driving a car, let alone teaching others how
    to do so.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
    I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
    prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000.

  4. Quoted message said:

    I seem to get more abuse for taking the lane where there's an additional
    lane for following vehicles to overtake than on single carriageway roads

    Abuse? You might be able to modify your road placement to stop this. I
    generally ride in the left hand "tyre track". I get plenty of space when
    cagers are overtaking and it doesn't seem to confuse the poor things as
    much as riding over on the right side of my lane (I think they think you're
    about to do a right turn when over on the right of a lane). Never had any
    abuse.

  5. On 12 Jan 2005 03:23:00 -0800, "BigRab" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    except for the driving instructor who blasted his horn at me for being well out in the lane
    (on a DC).

    I'm sure he was merely "warning you of his presence".

    A polite "thank you" wave is the standard reply.

    --
    Amazon: "If you are interested in 'Asimov's I-Robot',
    you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'.
    ... erm, how do they figure that one out?

  6. Richard Bates said:

    On 12 Jan 2005 03:23:00 -0800, "BigRab" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    except for the driving instructor who blasted his horn at me for
    being well out in the lane (on a DC).

    I'm sure he was merely "warning you of his presence".

    A polite "thank you" wave is the standard reply.

    I usually take it as an observation that I am not riding in the primary
    riding position so I move out to the primary position and wave my thanks
    for their observation ;-)

    Tony

  7. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I seem to get more abuse for taking the lane where there's an additional
    lane for following vehicles to overtake than on single carriageway roads

    It's because the poor dears find it harder to overtake you, you're
    forcing them to take extra exercise. If it's single lane, they only
    have to keep looking ahead to spot a gap in oncoming traffic to overtake
    in. If there's two lanes, they have to go to all the effort of
    swivelling their eyeballs a few degrees to check the mirror to make sure
    someone's not coming up in the right hand lane as well.

    /sarcasm

  8. David Nutter said:

    I seem to get more abuse for taking the lane where there's an additional
    lane for following vehicles to overtake than on single carriageway roads,
    though one would expect the opposite. No idea why, though I guess it must
    make sense to the irate cagers responsible.


    It's because the poor dears (like novice cyclists) are far more afraid
    of what's behind than what's in front. Moving into a lane full of
    traffic going the other way is easy, as you can watch them all the
    time. Moving into a lane of traffic approaching from behind is far
    more complicated, and you might have to make someone slow down, or
    even get hooted.

    This fear of the unseen behind seems to be an ingrained human
    instinct. Is it realistic to expect people to learn to deal with it?

    Colin McKenzie

  9. David Nutter said:

    I seem to get more abuse for taking the lane where there's an additional
    lane for following vehicles to overtake than on single carriageway roads,
    though one would expect the opposite. No idea why, though I guess it must
    make sense to the irate cagers responsible.


    It's because the poor dears (like novice cyclists) are far more afraid
    of what's behind than what's in front. Moving into a lane full of
    traffic going the other way is easy, as you can watch them all the
    time. Moving into a lane of traffic approaching from behind is far
    more complicated, and you might have to make someone slow down, or
    even get hooted.

    This fear of the unseen behind seems to be an ingrained human
    instinct. Is it realistic to expect people to learn to deal with it?

    Colin McKenzie


  10. Quoted message said:

    I usually take it as an observation that I am not riding in the


    primary

    Quoted message said:

    riding position so I move out to the primary position and wave my


    thanks

    Quoted message said:

    for their observation ;-)

    LOL Had it not been for the hundred mile an hour wind I would surely
    have waved
    my 'thanks'.

    Robert

  11. Colin McKenzie said:


    This fear of the unseen behind seems to be an ingrained human instinct.
    Is it realistic to expect people to learn to deal with it?

    Colin McKenzie

    Yes, it's really not that hard - if it was, cyclists'd have to stop
    cycling, and anything not single-carriageway'd have been long since
    abandoned...

    Fear of the unseen behind is completely different to the ability to mesh
    into a lane of overtaking traffic, IMO. I think the inability to mesh
    is a lot more about not being so aware of speed and distance and spatial
    awareness stuff.

    Plus, there's a lot fewer courteous drivers these days. Many *many*
    will pass you and not let you pull into *their* lane. Sometimes I've
    done it anyway when it's clear they're just being bloody-minded
    (deliberately closing a potential gap, for example) - much to their disgust.

    Oh how I wish one could press a button and give the offending tosspot
    (yes, I realise this might occasionally be me!) a quick blat of static
    electricity from his/her seat :-)

    --

    Velvet

  12. "BigRab" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I usually take it as an observation that I am not riding in the


    primary

    Quoted message said:

    riding position so I move out to the primary position and wave my


    thanks

    Quoted message said:

    for their observation ;-)

    LOL Had it not been for the hundred mile an hour wind I would surely
    have waved
    my 'thanks'.

    100mph wind and your out on a pushie???!!! It was bad enough in a car.
    [censored].

  13. Mark Thompson said:
    Quoted message said:

    I seem to get more abuse for taking the lane where there's an additional
    lane for following vehicles to overtake than on single carriageway roads

    Abuse?

    Muffled yelling from rolled down windows, horns and the like. By the time
    they've done all that, they would've been able to overtake in the next lane
    over, hence my puzzlement.

    Quoted message said:

    You might be able to modify your road placement to stop this. I
    generally ride in the left hand "tyre track".

    That is where generally I ride when I wish to take the lane, or slightly
    further right in certain situations (e.g. heavy traffic, or I want to turn).
    That way I just suffer occasional abuse rather than repeated murder
    attempts. 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    I get plenty of space when
    cagers are overtaking and it doesn't seem to confuse the poor things as
    much as riding over on the right side of my lane (I think they think you're
    about to do a right turn when over on the right of a lane). Never had any
    abuse.

    It may be a behaviour peculiar to Lincoln[shire], vile place that it is. I
    don't recall it happening more than once in Durham. That said, it's hardly
    common even here.

    Regards,

    -david

  14. David Nutter said:

    It may be a behaviour peculiar to Lincoln[shire], vile place that it is. I
    don't recall it happening more than once in Durham. That said, it's hardly
    common even here.

    I've had a handful or two of incidents in Durham. Almost all were on the
    A690 in the Crook direction with a couple in the town centre.

    Colin

  15. Colin McKenzie said:

    It's because the poor dears (like novice cyclists) are far more afraid
    of what's behind than what's in front. Moving into a lane full of
    traffic going the other way is easy, as you can watch them all the
    time. Moving into a lane of traffic approaching from behind is far
    more complicated, and you might have to make someone slow down, or
    even get hooted.

    Ah, that makes sense. Weird, twisted sense, mind... 🙂

    Regards,

    -david

  16. Richard Bates said:

    I'm sure he was merely "warning you of his presence".

    A polite "thank you" wave is the standard reply.

    I find that thumbing the nose demonstrates the appropriate level of
    contempt.

  17. gazzafield said:

    100mph wind and your out on a pushie???!!! It was bad enough in a car.
    [censored].

    I think you forgot a smiley there!

    Jon

  18. Jon Senior said:
    gazzafield said:

    100mph wind and your out on a pushie???!!! It was bad enough in
    a car.
    [censored].

    I think you forgot a smiley there!


    I don't think he intended one.

    --
    Dave...

  19. "dkahn400" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jon Senior said:
    gazzafield said:

    100mph wind and your out on a pushie???!!! It was bad enough in
    a car.
    [censored].

    I think you forgot a smiley there!


    I don't think he intended one.

    --
    Dave...

    *Ding!*

  20. gazzafield said:

    *Ding!*

    Dong merrily on high?

    Depending on many things, a 100mph wind does not preclude cycling.

    Pushies include trikes and a recumbent trike would (I imagine) be more
    shielded from crosswinds and less susceptible to unintentional movement.

    Since the wind keeps many cars off the roads, there is a lot less grief
    to be had from other cars, and those that are left seem more inclined to
    leave room.

    Calling someone a "[censored]" for choosing (Or having little choice) to
    ride a bike in strong winds, without any knowledge of their skill or the
    circumstances marks you as an example of name calling between various
    kitchen heating receptacles. Try writing more than two sentences and an
    insult in a post. The resulting time delay may make you reconsider your
    words.

    Jon

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