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I'm tackling the Yorkshire 3 Peaks this year, and was wondering which
is the best guide to it?

Many thanks
Rob Overfield

I don't think I have the answer for you. But when I did it 20 years or so
ago it was probably Wainwright's book. Mind you paths have been re-routed
sonce then. And AW said something about climbing over a wall which, when
we got there, was partially wrecked presumably by people who had climbed
over it.

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Adrian

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I'm tackling the Yorkshire 3 Peaks this year, and was wondering which is the
best guide to it?

It is beginning to look as though no one knows of a modern guide but
most of the route is obvious on the map as the easiest route follows
PROWs and roads for the most part. There seem to be far more PROWS on
the modern 1:50000 than there are on my ancient 1:25000 and IIRC (it is
a long time since I last did the walk) the only length where you would
be off one would be from the slopes of Pen-y-ghent over Black Dub Moss
to Birkwith Cave assuming you can still go that way.

Whernside used to be taken direct but I think that route is now verboten
(it was always a killer climb anyway) and the way to go is to take the
PROW that follows the railway line north from Ribblehead and approach
the summit from the North.

--
Roger Chapman

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I'm tackling the Yorkshire 3 Peaks this year, and was wondering which is

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best guide to it?

It is beginning to look as though no one knows of a modern guide but
most of the route is obvious on the map as the easiest route follows
PROWs and roads for the most part. There seem to be far more PROWS on
the modern 1:50000 than there are on my ancient 1:25000 and IIRC (it is
a long time since I last did the walk) the only length where you would
be off one would be from the slopes of Pen-y-ghent over Black Dub Moss
to Birkwith Cave assuming you can still go that way.

Whernside used to be taken direct but I think that route is now verboten
(it was always a killer climb anyway) and the way to go is to take the
PROW that follows the railway line north from Ribblehead and approach
the summit from the North.

Thanks Roger. The reason I asked was when I doing the research for the walk,
I came across:
http://www.go4awalk.com/facts/factsthreepeaks_fs.htm
but wasn't going to pay GBP 14.99 for one or two downloads a year. I would
prefer actually ordering a guide that I can make notes in and keep as a
record etc of the walk itself.

Rob Overfield

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Thanks Roger. The reason I asked was when I doing the research for the walk,
I came across:
http://www.go4awalk.com/facts/factsthreepeaks_fs.htm
but wasn't going to pay GBP 14.99 for one or two downloads a year. I would
prefer actually ordering a guide that I can make notes in and keep as a
record etc of the walk itself.

If nothing comes up I could make out a short list of approximate grid
references that should keep you on the far from straight but narrow. The
regulars could then tear it to pieces. :-) Let me know.

--
Roger Chapman

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I'm tackling the Yorkshire 3 Peaks this year, and was wondering which is

the

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best guide to it?

It is beginning to look as though no one knows of a modern guide but
most of the route is obvious on the map as the easiest route follows
PROWs and roads for the most part. There seem to be far more PROWS on
the modern 1:50000 than there are on my ancient 1:25000 and IIRC (it is
a long time since I last did the walk) the only length where you would
be off one would be from the slopes of Pen-y-ghent over Black Dub Moss
to Birkwith Cave assuming you can still go that way.

Whernside used to be taken direct but I think that route is now verboten
(it was always a killer climb anyway) and the way to go is to take the
PROW that follows the railway line north from Ribblehead and approach
the summit from the North.

Thanks Roger. The reason I asked was when I doing the research for the walk,
I came across:
http://www.go4awalk.com/facts/factsthreepeaks_fs.htm
but wasn't going to pay GBP 14.99 for one or two downloads a year. I would
prefer actually ordering a guide that I can make notes in and keep as a
record etc of the walk itself.

Rob, if you get desperate drop me a mail and I'll see what I can do to
help out wrt go4awalk ...

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Darren
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I'm tackling the Yorkshire 3 Peaks this year, and was wondering which is

the

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best guide to it?

It is beginning to look as though no one knows of a modern guide but
most of the route is obvious on the map as the easiest route follows
PROWs and roads for the most part. There seem to be far more PROWS on
the modern 1:50000 than there are on my ancient 1:25000 and IIRC (it is
a long time since I last did the walk) the only length where you would
be off one would be from the slopes of Pen-y-ghent over Black Dub Moss
to Birkwith Cave assuming you can still go that way.

Whernside used to be taken direct but I think that route is now verboten
(it was always a killer climb anyway) and the way to go is to take the
PROW that follows the railway line north from Ribblehead and approach
the summit from the North.

Thanks Roger. The reason I asked was when I doing the research for the walk,
I came across:
http://www.go4awalk.com/facts/factsthreepeaks_fs.htm
but wasn't going to pay GBP 14.99 for one or two downloads a year. I would
prefer actually ordering a guide that I can make notes in and keep as a
record etc of the walk itself.

Rob, if you get desperate drop me a mail and I'll see what I can do to
help out wrt go4awalk ...

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Darren
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> I'm tackling the Yorkshire 3 Peaks this year, and was wondering

which is

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the

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> best guide to it?

It is beginning to look as though no one knows of a modern guide but
most of the route is obvious on the map as the easiest route follows
PROWs and roads for the most part. There seem to be far more PROWS on
the modern 1:50000 than there are on my ancient 1:25000 and IIRC (it

is

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a long time since I last did the walk) the only length where you would
be off one would be from the slopes of Pen-y-ghent over Black Dub Moss
to Birkwith Cave assuming you can still go that way.

Whernside used to be taken direct but I think that route is now

verboten

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(it was always a killer climb anyway) and the way to go is to take the
PROW that follows the railway line north from Ribblehead and approach
the summit from the North.

Thanks Roger. The reason I asked was when I doing the research for the

walk,

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I came across:
http://www.go4awalk.com/facts/factsthreepeaks_fs.htm
but wasn't going to pay GBP 14.99 for one or two downloads a year. I

would

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prefer actually ordering a guide that I can make notes in and keep as a
record etc of the walk itself.

Rob, if you get desperate drop me a mail and I'll see what I can do to
help out wrt go4awalk ...

Darren, I'm doing the 3 peaks as part of a charity walk, but I prefer to be
prepared, should the worst happen. Normally, the 3 peaks is out of my
distance (10-15 miles) but for charity, well, it just means I'll have to
put extra miles in in the weks beforehand.

If anyone is a member of the above website and has ALREADY downloaded their
pdf of the walk recently then that would be enough. If not I'll go out and
find a reasonably up to date guide at some bookshop or other, depeending on
what's suggested by you fine people!

Rob

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Thanks Roger. The reason I asked was when I doing the research for the

walk,

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I came across:
http://www.go4awalk.com/facts/factsthreepeaks_fs.htm
but wasn't going to pay GBP 14.99 for one or two downloads a year. I

would

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prefer actually ordering a guide that I can make notes in and keep as a
record etc of the walk itself.

If nothing comes up I could make out a short list of approximate grid
references that should keep you on the far from straight but narrow. The
regulars could then tear it to pieces. :-) Let me know.

--
Roger Chapman

No-one came up with anything, in fact a deafening silence. Never mind,
anything you can give me will be more than welcome Roger.

Rob Overfield

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I'm tackling the Yorkshire 3 Peaks this year, and was wondering which is
the
best guide to it?

Many thanks
Rob Overfield

Rob

Trail magazine printed an article about this in June 2004. I wouldn't say
that it was particularly informative - 4 pages of which about 5-60% is
photos. Let me know if you want to read it. . .

druidh

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Thanks Roger. The reason I asked was when I doing the research for the

walk,

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I came across:
http://www.go4awalk.com/facts/factsthreepeaks_fs.htm
but wasn't going to pay GBP 14.99 for one or two downloads a year. I

would

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prefer actually ordering a guide that I can make notes in and keep as a
record etc of the walk itself.

If nothing comes up I could make out a short list of approximate grid
references that should keep you on the far from straight but narrow. The
regulars could then tear it to pieces. :-) Let me know.

--
Roger Chapman

No-one came up with anything, in fact a deafening silence. Never mind,
anything you can give me will be more than welcome Roger.

hmmm? Did say that if you dropped me a mail (with the necessary route
no.s) I might be able to help out (being a paid subscriber to go4awalk).
Not that I could possibly let you have copies of course, as that would
be soooooo wrong.

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Darren
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If nothing comes up I could make out a short list of approximate grid
references that should keep you on the far from straight but narrow. The
regulars could then tear it to pieces. :-) Let me know.

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No-one came up with anything, in fact a deafening silence. Never mind,
anything you can give me will be more than welcome Roger.

OK.

A series of (rough) 6 figure GRs extracted from either a modern 1:50000
or an old 1:25000. The former for PROWS/roads, the later for the pencil
mark I made over 20 years ago indicating where I think I went. However
there were no GPSs in those days and even then my memory wasn't good
enough to fill in all the blanks and what I did mark might have been
wrong although there do seem to be significant landmarks adjacent to the
route. The other thing to bear in mind is that this is a popular walk
and pressure might might have been brought to bear to shift walkers off
the direct line over the soggy boggy. I don't actually have any
knowledge o the route round the back of Whernside as I never went that
way but it is marked on the map as a PROW unlike the slog up the front.

1/50
807726
811721
817723
837728
838734
838743

1/25
831746
828747
821754
<this space left blank>
1/25
812758
811761
808765
804770
803771
801772

1/50
777781
765793
760795
759821
738815
734803
742776745777
747748
741746
745747
804725
807726

It is late so I hope I have managed to transcribe these without error.
Anything dubious ask.

HTH

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 5 summits
New - 5 (Marilyns 0, Sweats 0, Outlying Fells 5)
Repeats - 0 (Marilyns 0, Sweats 0, Wainwrights 0, Outlying Fells 0)

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If nothing comes up I could make out a short list of approximate grid
references that should keep you on the far from straight but narrow.

The

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regulars could then tear it to pieces. :-) Let me know.

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No-one came up with anything, in fact a deafening silence. Never mind,
anything you can give me will be more than welcome Roger.

OK.

A series of (rough) 6 figure GRs extracted from either a modern 1:50000
or an old 1:25000. The former for PROWS/roads, the later for the pencil
mark I made over 20 years ago indicating where I think I went. However
there were no GPSs in those days and even then my memory wasn't good
enough to fill in all the blanks and what I did mark might have been
wrong although there do seem to be significant landmarks adjacent to the
route. The other thing to bear in mind is that this is a popular walk
and pressure might might have been brought to bear to shift walkers off
the direct line over the soggy boggy. I don't actually have any
knowledge o the route round the back of Whernside as I never went that
way but it is marked on the map as a PROW unlike the slog up the front.

1/50
807726
811721
817723
837728
838734
838743

1/25
831746
828747
821754
<this space left blank>
1/25
812758
811761
808765
804770
803771
801772

1/50
777781
765793
760795
759821
738815
734803
742776745777
747748
741746
745747
804725
807726

It is late so I hope I have managed to transcribe these without error.
Anything dubious ask.

HTH

Thanks Roger, I'll go dig out the maps and get busy with these later.
Cheers.

Rob