Had a bracing spin out on the fixed this morning, nothing heroic just a simple, steady, flat 20 miles or so but boyoboy did my toes get cold!!
I though I'd sorted this out by slackening off my shoes a bit but today was very bad, despite the merino wool socks under usual cycle socks, inside (unvented) MTB shoes. My big toes felt like frozen turkey when I got home, and it wasn't even that cold today (although prolly under freezing with wind chill?).
A shame really, as I've just about got the rest of the clothing issues sorted out now. Other than me tootsies, I was just about right temperature-wise.
Any ideas to stop this? Preferably that don't involve spending too much... I fear I could be looking at toe amputation if I try a proper day out! I suspect a switch from SPD to Look pedals may help, ISTM the SPD's do load the foot in such a way as to impede circulation. Or maybe overshoes...
Any ideas to stop this? Preferably that don't involve spending too much... I fear I could be looking at toe amputation if I try a proper day out! I suspect a switch from SPD to Look pedals may help, ISTM the SPD's do load the foot in such a way as to impede circulation. Or maybe overshoes...
all advice welcome.
Try more top layer(s) and hat. Your body may not FEEL cold, tht's because it self protecys & shuts down the extremities first to protect vital organs & such. At least 30% heat loss thru' head, some say 40%. Try it, it works for me when skiing, and that can be really COLD (-20 C last year, all bl***y week, coldest ever ski hol).
Just an idea if you're not already doing it. I find neoprene overshoes help, definitely help with the wind chill.
Niv. (Chas Roberts racer, winter hack racer, Marin Attack Trail MTB, Honda CB500s[quicker up hills!]).
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:58:46 +0000, Tony B <[email hidden]> wrote in message <[email hidden]>:
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Had a bracing spin out on the fixed this morning, nothing heroic just a simple, steady, flat 20 miles or so but boyoboy did my toes get cold!! Any ideas to stop this?
Yes, but they conflict with...
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Preferably that don't involve spending too much...
My Northwave Fahrenheit shoes seem to do the business.
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Any ideas to stop this? Preferably that don't involve spending too much... I fear I could be looking at toe amputation if I try a proper day out! I suspect a switch from SPD to Look pedals may help, ISTM the SPD's do load the foot in such a way as to impede circulation. Or maybe overshoes...
Neoprene overshoea work really, really well.
It might be worth spending a bit and buying a cheapy cheap pair that's particularly cheap to try them first though ... took me a while to disregard them ... 😉
-- Paul ... http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php (8(!) Homer Rules ... 😉 "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."
Any ideas to stop this? Preferably that don't involve spending too much... I fear I could be looking at toe amputation if I try a proper day out! I suspect a switch from SPD to Look pedals may help, ISTM the SPD's do load the foot in such a way as to impede circulation. Or maybe overshoes...
Neoprene overshoea work really, really well.
It might be worth spending a bit and buying a cheapy cheap pair that's particularly cheap to try them first though ... took me a while to disregard them ... 😉
I can sympathise with the cold feet syndrome.Out for a dozen miles or so yesterday,new SealSkinz socks ( prezzy ), shoes,Goretex overshoes,feet still freezing.Yes I was well covered everywhere else.My notion is that SPD's,being metal,drain the heat from the feet.Well thats my theory any way.
I can sympathise with the cold feet syndrome.Out for a dozen miles or so yesterday,new SealSkinz socks ( prezzy ), shoes,Goretex overshoes,feet still freezing.Yes I was well covered everywhere else.My notion is that SPD's,being metal,drain the heat from the feet.Well thats my theory any way.
Maybe they do but you can also easily get frozen feet with Look plastic cleats. I think it's more to do with cycling shoes not being warm enough.
Neoprene overshoes help somewhat. Definitely worth trying, Tony.
I can sympathise with the cold feet syndrome.Out for a dozen miles or so yesterday,new SealSkinz socks ( prezzy ), shoes,Goretex overshoes,feet still freezing.Yes I was well covered everywhere else.My notion is that SPD's,being metal,drain the heat from the feet.Well thats my theory any way.
Oi! You stole _my_ theory.
When it's below about 5 degrees I put an old pair of toe-clipped pedals on the bike and wear shoes to match. Much warmer. One day I'm going to get some cheap shoes a couple of sizes too big and line the sole with hard foam after installing the cleats.
I can sympathise with the cold feet syndrome.Out for a dozen miles or so yesterday,new SealSkinz socks ( prezzy ), shoes,Goretex overshoes,feet still freezing.Yes I was well covered everywhere else.My notion is that SPD's,being metal,drain the heat from the feet.Well thats my theory any way.
Oi! You stole _my_ theory.
When it's below about 5 degrees I put an old pair of toe-clipped pedals on the bike and wear shoes to match. Much warmer. One day I'm going to get some cheap shoes a couple of sizes too big and line the sole with hard foam after installing the cleats.
To each his own.
From my experiences of cycling in less than warm weather, the options go like this:
1. Warm hat 2. Warm gloves 3. Warm overshoes (neoprene) or plastic bags outside the socks. 4. Windproof leggings (waterproof trousers over a couple of pairs of tracksters works well.)
basically avoid excessive heat loss from the system as a whole and keep the blood flow warm.
Cheapest immediate solution is windproof trousers and plastic bags over the socks and inside the shoes. Windproof jacket as well. Then let the head regulate the body heat.
Cheapest immediate solution is windproof trousers and plastic bags over the socks and inside the shoes.
I was about to suggest plastic bags inside the shoes as a crude but effective dodge from the days before clipless pedals and overshoes. A newspaper stuffed up the jersey is another old standby.
-- Dave...
Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race. - H. G. Wells
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I was about to suggest plastic bags inside the shoes as a crude but effective dodge from the days before clipless pedals and overshoes. A newspaper stuffed up the jersey is another old standby.
Had a bracing spin out on the fixed this morning, nothing heroic just a simple, steady, flat 20 miles or so but boyoboy did my toes get cold!!
I though I'd sorted this out by slackening off my shoes a bit but today was very bad, despite the merino wool socks under usual cycle socks, inside (unvented) MTB shoes. My big toes felt like frozen turkey when I got home, and it wasn't even that cold today (although prolly under freezing with wind chill?).
A shame really, as I've just about got the rest of the clothing issues sorted out now. Other than me tootsies, I was just about right temperature-wise.
Any ideas to stop this? Preferably that don't involve spending too much... I fear I could be looking at toe amputation if I try a proper day out! I suspect a switch from SPD to Look pedals may help, ISTM the SPD's do load the foot in such a way as to impede circulation. Or maybe overshoes...
all advice welcome.
bfn,
Tony B
Over the Christmas weekend (2 x 50+ milers) and on Monday (32 miles round Inglebrough) I wore my new Decathlon shoes that are 1 size too big for me with ski socks that come up to my knee. I also used thick (2-3mm) neoprene over shoes and roubaix bib tights. I can move my toes to keep them nice and warm. On the day that my bottle froze I used my Sidi Technos that are too tight unless I use very thin everyday socks. I also had 1mm neoprene overshoes. My toes were not numb but I recall they were a little cold and I was unable to move them to keep them warm.
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I was about to suggest plastic bags inside the shoes as a crude but effective dodge from the days before clipless pedals and overshoes. A newspaper stuffed up the jersey is another old standby.
Sweaty toes!!
Blistered toes?
Sweaty, yes. Blistered, no.
-- Dave...
Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race. - H. G. Wells
Mil surplus shop - look for the pale green Goretex oversocks. A pair of these in a suitably large size cuts into a lovely pair of wind and waterproof shoe covers.
Any ideas to stop this? Preferably that don't involve spending too much... I fear I could be looking at toe amputation if I try a proper
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day out! I suspect a switch from SPD to Look pedals may help, ISTM
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SPD's do load the foot in such a way as to impede circulation. Or
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overshoes...
I'd second the opinion of others for neoprene overshoes. A friend swims in the North sea in a 5mm neoprene wetsuit so 2-3mm of the stuff should keep toes warm! They certainly work for me. Mine are Altura ones bought over a year ago and are one of the best investments I made.
Also see if Aldi have any of their Crane cycling shoes in. At £20, they're cheap enough to buy a larger than normal pair and wear thick socks with them.
Had a bracing spin out on the fixed this morning, nothing heroic just a simple, steady, flat 20 miles or so but boyoboy did my toes get cold!!
I though I'd sorted this out by slackening off my shoes a bit but today was very bad, despite the merino wool socks under usual cycle socks, inside (unvented) MTB shoes. My big toes felt like frozen turkey when I got home, and it wasn't even that cold today (although prolly under freezing with wind chill?).
A shame really, as I've just about got the rest of the clothing issues sorted out now. Other than me tootsies, I was just about right temperature-wise.
Any ideas to stop this? Preferably that don't involve spending too much... I fear I could be looking at toe amputation if I try a proper day out! I suspect a switch from SPD to Look pedals may help, ISTM the SPD's do load the foot in such a way as to impede circulation. Or maybe overshoes...
all advice welcome.
bfn,
Tony B
2 packets of Walkers Crisps. Throw the crisps away, wear the packets between socks & shoes. I have never tried this, but am told it works. Probably best to avoid Cheese & Onion. --
Any ideas to stop this? Preferably that don't involve spending too much... I fear I could be looking at toe amputation if I try a proper
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day out! I suspect a switch from SPD to Look pedals may help, ISTM the SPD's do load the foot in such a way as to impede circulation. Or maybe overshoes...
I'd second the opinion of others for neoprene overshoes. A friend swims in the North sea in a 5mm neoprene wetsuit so 2-3mm of the stuff should keep toes warm! They certainly work for me. Mine are Altura ones bought over a year ago and are one of the best investments I made.
Also see if Aldi have any of their Crane cycling shoes in. At £20, they're cheap enough to buy a larger than normal pair and wear thick socks with them.
Jon
...but the front/top panel is so thin that you can see your fingers through it (if you put your hands in them). I find that 3 pairs of socks plus warm clothing elsewhere equals warm toes, even in the thin Aldi shoes. --
..but the front/top panel is so thin that you can see your fingers through it (if you put your hands in them). I find that 3 pairs of socks plus warm clothing elsewhere equals warm toes, even in the thin Aldi shoes. --
Martin Bulmer
My Decathlon shoes have a mesh upper so neoprene overshoes are pretty much essential
