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  1. Hi All

    I've recently taken up mountain biking as a way of building-up my fitness
    after a long lay-off from work, and I must say I'm rather enjoying it!

    I'm looking to obtain a cycle computer and have been searching the web for
    suitable options....there are quite a lot to choose from! I have a question
    which I hope some one with a little more knowledge may be able to advise on.

    Its regarding whether to go for a 'wired' variety as opposed to 'wireless' ?
    I've read that the wireless ones can suffer from 'line of sight' problems
    and I was also thinking that they might not be as effective when the sensor
    is covered in mud? I've had no experience with these computers so I would
    appreciate any advice on the 'pros' and 'cons' of each, before choosing one.
    Would I also be right in thinking that VDO, Cateye and Sigma are some of the
    better makes to go for?

    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

  2. Paul Rose said:

    Hi All

    I've recently taken up mountain biking as a way of building-up my fitness
    after a long lay-off from work, and I must say I'm rather enjoying it!

    I'm looking to obtain a cycle computer and have been searching the web for
    suitable options....there are quite a lot to choose from! I have a question
    which I hope some one with a little more knowledge may be able to advise on.

    Its regarding whether to go for a 'wired' variety as opposed to 'wireless' ?
    I've read that the wireless ones can suffer from 'line of sight' problems
    and I was also thinking that they might not be as effective when the sensor
    is covered in mud? I've had no experience with these computers so I would
    appreciate any advice on the 'pros' and 'cons' of each, before choosing one.
    Would I also be right in thinking that VDO, Cateye and Sigma are some of the
    better makes to go for?

    AFAIK, they are all RF, not IR, so line of sight is not an issue. The
    wireless require a battery in the transmitter as well as in the head unit.

    I've had the best experience with CatEye. Avocet was not well made, and
    the Nashbar brand was terrible.

  3. in message <[email hidden]>, Paul Rose

    (') said:

    I'm looking to obtain a cycle computer and have been searching the web
    for suitable options....there are quite a lot to choose from! I have a
    question which I hope some one with a little more knowledge may be
    able to advise on.

    Its regarding whether to go for a 'wired' variety as opposed to
    'wireless' ? I've read that the wireless ones can suffer from 'line of
    sight' problems and I was also thinking that they might not be as
    effective when the sensor is covered in mud? I've had no experience
    with these computers so I would appreciate any advice on the 'pros'
    and 'cons' of each, before choosing one. Would I also be right in
    thinking that VDO, Cateye and Sigma are some of the better makes to go
    for?

    Mud isn't a problem. Metal is - it really helps to mount the sensor on
    the same side of the forks as the instrument, so as not to have the
    metal of the forks and the steering head in between. If you're cycling
    off-road wireless is in my opinion definitely better, because wired
    systems don't like suspension - the wire has to be loose, and
    consequently catches on things, and consequently gets damaged.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; All in all you're just another nick in the ball
    -- Think Droid

  4. Paul Rose said:

    Hi All

    I've recently taken up mountain biking as a way of building-up my fitness
    after a long lay-off from work, and I must say I'm rather enjoying it!

    I'm looking to obtain a cycle computer and have been searching the web for
    suitable options....there are quite a lot to choose from! I have a question
    which I hope some one with a little more knowledge may be able to advise on.

    Its regarding whether to go for a 'wired' variety as opposed to 'wireless' ?
    I've read that the wireless ones can suffer from 'line of sight' problems
    and I was also thinking that they might not be as effective when the sensor
    is covered in mud? I've had no experience with these computers so I would
    appreciate any advice on the 'pros' and 'cons' of each, before choosing one.
    Would I also be right in thinking that VDO, Cateye and Sigma are some of the
    better makes to go for?

    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk


    For suspension forks wireless is a lot easier. For rigid forks I'd have
    wired, to reduce battery consumption and bulk.

  5. Paul Rose said:

    Would I also be right in thinking that VDO, Cateye and Sigma are some of the
    better makes to go for?

    Best Comp, that cheapo one from aldi! No distance problems, no cold
    weather problems(Cateye....spit), works well.

    Could be a while before aldi get em back in though.

    Steve

  6. On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 20:28:55 GMT, Steve Peake <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Rose said:

    Would I also be right in thinking that VDO, Cateye and Sigma are some of the
    better makes to go for?

    Best Comp, that cheapo one from aldi! No distance problems, no cold
    weather problems(Cateye....spit), works well.

    Could be a while before aldi get em back in though.

    Steve

    If you've got a hard tail with front suspension you can use the rear
    wheel instead. It might mean extending the cable slightly but no big
    deal.

    I also recommend the Aldi £3.99 model. Nice big display, plenty of
    features and seems well made and reliable. Also its probably wise to
    get two anyway in case of breakages or theft and to provide a spare or
    two and £8 is better than £40-50.

    I'm addicted to mine and always looking at it to see how fast, how
    far, how cold etc.

  7. "Steven M. Scharf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    AFAIK, they are all RF, not IR, so line of sight is not an issue. The
    wireless require a battery in the transmitter as well as in the head unit.

    I've had the best experience with CatEye. Avocet was not well made, and
    the Nashbar brand was terrible.

    Hi Steven

    Thanks for your reply and info. As for the 'line of sight' question, I
    remember reading a report on the web somewhere about this problem but, as I
    say, I have very little experience with these so I may well be wrong here.
    Thanks again,

    --
    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

  8. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Mud isn't a problem. Metal is - it really helps to mount the sensor on
    the same side of the forks as the instrument, so as not to have the
    metal of the forks and the steering head in between. If you're cycling
    off-road wireless is in my opinion definitely better, because wired
    systems don't like suspension - the wire has to be loose, and
    consequently catches on things, and consequently gets damaged.

    Hi Simon,

    Thanks for the info. Some useful pointers. I must admit I quite like the
    idea of wireless but I've also read that they can also suffer from
    interference and therefore may not be as accurate.

    --
    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

  9. "Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:41c5be4f.0@entanet...

    Quoted message said:

    For suspension forks wireless is a lot easier. For rigid forks I'd have
    wired, to reduce battery consumption and bulk.

    Thanks for that. I have suspension forks so it looks like the wireless
    option.

    --
    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

  10. "Steve Peake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Rose said:

    Would I also be right in thinking that VDO, Cateye and Sigma are some of


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    better makes to go for?

    Best Comp, that cheapo one from aldi! No distance problems, no cold
    weather problems(Cateye....spit), works well.

    Could be a while before aldi get em back in though.

    Steve

    Hi Steve,

    Thanks for the recommendation. I didn't know Aldi had them for sale! I will
    have to pop in and ask if they are getting any more in.

    --
    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

  11. "Martin Wilson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    If you've got a hard tail with front suspension you can use the rear
    wheel instead. It might mean extending the cable slightly but no big
    deal.

    I also recommend the Aldi £3.99 model. Nice big display, plenty of
    features and seems well made and reliable. Also its probably wise to
    get two anyway in case of breakages or theft and to provide a spare or
    two and £8 is better than £40-50.

    I'm addicted to mine and always looking at it to see how fast, how
    far, how cold etc.

    Hi Martin,

    Thanks for the info and advice. Another one for the Aldi model! As you say,
    I could get two or three for between £8 and £12! I can imagine I too could
    become addicted to one ;o)
    --
    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

  12. in message <[email hidden]>, Paul Rose

    (') said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Mud isn't a problem. Metal is - it really helps to mount the sensor
    on the same side of the forks as the instrument, so as not to have
    the metal of the forks and the steering head in between. If you're
    cycling off-road wireless is in my opinion definitely better, because
    wired systems don't like suspension - the wire has to be loose, and
    consequently catches on things, and consequently gets damaged.

    Thanks for the info. Some useful pointers. I must admit I quite like
    the idea of wireless but I've also read that they can also suffer from
    interference and therefore may not be as accurate.

    This certainly can happen - I know at least two people who have
    unreliable wireless systems. The trick, I believe, is to keep the
    transmitter and receiver as close together as possible, and on the same
    side of the bike. If you have the transmitter on the left fork, but the
    computer on the left hand side of your handlebars, and vice versa. Have
    the transmitter as high on the fork leg as practical.

    However I have to say on one of my bikes the wireless transmitter is
    within a few inches of the hub, and it (a Cat Eye) works fine.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; this is not a .sig

  13. Paul Rose said:

    "Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:41c5be4f.0@entanet...

    Quoted message said:

    For suspension forks wireless is a lot easier. For rigid forks I'd
    have wired, to reduce battery consumption and bulk.

    Thanks for that. I have suspension forks so it looks like the wireless
    option.

    So have I (on my Trek 4300), and wrap the wire round the brake line. It has
    so far failed to break, fall off or exhibit suspicious political tendencies.

    --

    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
    World Domination?
    Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
    floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

  14. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the info. Some useful pointers. I must admit I quite like
    the idea of wireless but I've also read that they can also suffer from
    interference and therefore may not be as accurate.

    This certainly can happen - I know at least two people who have
    unreliable wireless systems. The trick, I believe, is to keep the
    transmitter and receiver as close together as possible, and on the same
    side of the bike. If you have the transmitter on the left fork, but the
    computer on the left hand side of your handlebars, and vice versa. Have
    the transmitter as high on the fork leg as practical.

    However I have to say on one of my bikes the wireless transmitter is
    within a few inches of the hub, and it (a Cat Eye) works fine.


    Thanks again, Simon. I will take your advice on board. All I have to do now
    is get one!

    --
    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

  15. "Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Rose said:

    "Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:41c5be4f.0@entanet...

    Quoted message said:

    For suspension forks wireless is a lot easier. For rigid forks I'd
    have wired, to reduce battery consumption and bulk.

    Thanks for that. I have suspension forks so it looks like the wireless
    option.

    So have I (on my Trek 4300), and wrap the wire round the brake line. It


    has

    Quoted message said:

    so far failed to break, fall off or exhibit suspicious political


    tendencies.

    Hi Dave,

    That's sounds like a good option if using a wired computer. I suppose it
    should work ok as long as there is enough 'slack'.

    --
    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

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