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  1. The news this morning: over 1000 dead in Indonesia quake, then 3000+
    about 10:00, 6000 about noon, and now 10,000 dead.

    Question on Yahoo! board: was Taiwan hit??? No answer, so I looked up
    Taiwan new about earthquakes, and found out about a September quake.
    No more news about today.

    I know Taiwan is home for many recumbent frames, so I thought someone
    here might know about how Taiwan is taking this. The tsunami hasn't
    hit the west coast- yet.

    Is Taiwan still surviving or underwater?

    Chris Jordan
    Santa Cruz, CA.

  2. Quoted message said:

    The news this morning: over 1000 dead in Indonesia quake, then 3000+
    about 10:00, 6000 about noon, and now 10,000 dead.

    Question on Yahoo! board: was Taiwan hit??? No answer, so I looked


    up

    Quoted message said:

    Taiwan new about earthquakes, and found out about a September quake.
    No more news about today.

    I know Taiwan is home for many recumbent frames, so I thought someone
    here might know about how Taiwan is taking this. The tsunami hasn't
    hit the west coast- yet.

    Is Taiwan still surviving or underwater?

    Chris Jordan
    Santa Cruz, CA.

    Very, very unlikely that Taiwan even noticed the eathquake or resulting
    tsunami. The earthquake's epicenter was off the western edge of
    Indonesia, which resulted in tsunami around the Indian Ocean- the
    eastern coast of India, Sri Lanka, and the Maldives. Take a look at
    this map:
    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/reference_maps/asia.html .
    Taiwan- in the worst of circumstances- would be shielded by Malaysia
    and the Indochinese peninsula from any sea waves starting at that
    point.

    Furthermore, most of Taiwan's heavy industry is well inland- Taichung
    or around Taipei. Tsunami are destructive- but they usually don't push
    more than a mile or two inland. They'll damage seaside industry and
    resorts, but not much more.
    Jeff (I rode out an earthquake in Taipei in '73- no problem.)

  3. "Was Taiwan Hit???"

    No, the quake was off Sumatra in the Indian Ocean, causing a Sunami
    that hit Sumatra, Phuket off Malay (where vacationing Westerners were
    hit) Sri Lanka, the Coromandel Coast of India (where Madras is
    located), up the Bay of Bengal toward Bangladesh, the Maldives (south
    east of the tip of the Indian sub continent), the Seychelles (also in
    the Indian Ocean) [the US Navy has a base on a low lying atoll called
    Diego Garcia Island in the eastern Indian Ocean and I haven't heard
    anything about what happened there], and then finally it reached the
    coast of Somalia. I also haven't heard about the conditions at another
    US outpost at Djibouti or if it had any effect in the Persian (or
    Arabian) Gulf. This 8.9 quake was the highest on the Ricter Scale in
    the last 40 years, and it is one of the largest natural disasters I can
    remember. The only other one that I can remember with a death toll this
    high might have been the cyclone that hit Bangladesh in the last half
    of the 20th century.

  4. Thanks for the info. I am just stunned. It is raining and windy here
    today; but headlines like:
    World - AP Asia
    Tidal Waves Kill 22,000 in Nine Countries
    are shocking, stunning, crushing world outlooks for me.

    Chris

  5. It's Monday, 27 December and the initial quake happened

    8.1 2004/12/23 14:59:04 -50.240 160.133 10.0 NORTH OF MACQUARIE ISLAND

    more than three days ago. D'ya think the AP (ya kain't spiel krAP without
    AP) really cares? Or Reuters/rooters? Or the California News NOT?

    The family cabin was on Oakland Ave in Capitola, two blocks from the cliff.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the info. I am just stunned. It is raining and windy here
    today; but headlines like:
    World - AP Asia
    Tidal Waves Kill 22,000 in Nine Countries
    are shocking, stunning, crushing world outlooks for me.

    Chris

  6. On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:45:18 -0500, "Doug Huffman"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    more than three days ago. D'ya think the AP (ya kain't spiel krAP without
    AP) really cares? Or Reuters/rooters? Or the California News NOT?

    Been all over the news here in the UK since pretty much the moment it
    happened - although with the usual "22,000 dead including four
    BRITONs" and "hundreds dead in Thailand, no BRITONs believed hurt"
    parochial [censored]. First or second in every national bulletin for a
    couple of days and still lead story in most papers and the BBC
    website.

    I guess that would make page 272 of the average Leftpondian paper
    until a few US citizens die? Or am I just being cynical?

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  7. On 26 Dec 2004 21:44:38 -0800, [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Very, very unlikely that Taiwan even noticed the eathquake or resulting
    tsunami.

    The Beeb has a good account of it all if anyone's interested.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4126971.stm

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  8. Just zis Guy said:


    I guess that would make page 272 of the average Leftpondian paper
    until a few US citizens die? Or am I just being cynical?

    Guy

    Well, yes and no. The first newspaper account I read was on the front
    page of Sunday's Eugene Register-Guard, but the majority of the article
    was back on page 9. This morning's newspapers had full-scale front-page
    assaults on the subject. I'd attribute the delay to the difficulties of
    getting reliable reports from relatively non-connected parts halfway
    around the world.

    Local TV newspeople were interviewing people with relatives in the
    affected areas, so the bias is not *entirely* towards US citizens.
    Since communications are damaged, I'd presume it will be some time
    before *most* are located, if at all. Many, many people were washed out
    to sea and drowned- corpses that wash ashore once again are being
    buried in mass graves. Under these circumstances, many people will
    never be heard from again.

    Back on topic: for anyone attending next year's Recumbent Retreat
    (http://www.recumbentretreat.org/), please note that tsunami evacuation
    routes are clearly marked. Here's a little historical background:
    http://www.osp.state.or.us/oem/programs/earthquake/tsuinor9.htm

    Jeff

  9. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I guess that would make page 272 of the average Leftpondian paper
    until a few US citizens die? Or am I just being cynical?

    I just heard the US has sent rescue teams and 13 million dollars in
    immediate funds with more to follow. I presume you Guys are also helping
    along with France, Germany, Russia, et. al. Or am I just being hopeful?

    The story had front page coverage on our local paper, but I did hear about
    one paper that lead with something about an Oprha show regular visiting the
    area was safe.

    I have an aquaintance who is in Thailand on holiday. I don't know about her
    whereabouts now.

    skip

  10. On 27 Dec 2004 19:18:48 -0800, [email hidden] wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Well, yes and no. The first newspaper account I read was on the front
    page of Sunday's Eugene Register-Guard, but the majority of the article
    was back on page 9. This morning's newspapers had full-scale front-page
    assaults on the subject. I'd attribute the delay to the difficulties of
    getting reliable reports from relatively non-connected parts halfway
    around the world.

    Maybe, although it's possible they didn't actually try that hard -
    there are a number of journalists over there for various reasons and
    there has been no shortage of detail available to the BBC.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  11. On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:19:21 -0600, "skip" <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    I just heard the US has sent rescue teams and 13 million dollars in
    immediate funds with more to follow. I presume you Guys are also helping
    along with France, Germany, Russia, et. al. Or am I just being hopeful?

    We have indeed sent aid.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

  12. you know? said:


    Been all over the news here in the UK since pretty much the moment it
    happened - although with the usual "22,000 dead including four
    BRITONs" and "hundreds dead in Thailand, no BRITONs believed hurt"
    parochial [censored].

    Well, that'll have to satisfy them until they find a way to blame it
    on Bush.

  13. "Zippy the Pinhead" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    you know? said:


    Been all over the news here in the UK since pretty much the moment it
    happened - although with the usual "22,000 dead including four
    BRITONs" and "hundreds dead in Thailand, no BRITONs believed hurt"
    parochial [censored].

    Well, that'll have to satisfy them until they find a way to blame it
    on Bush.

    Global warming caused the earthquake. Bush caused global warming. Didn't
    take them long to make the connection.

    skip

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