Bus driving blues

Spider1977 said:

Is it just me, or do other riders find that bus drivers in genral are
particularly discourteous and somewhat aggressive when it comes to
cyclists? 😕

not particularly.

Quoted message said:

Here in Hobart I have had a number of run-ins with busses cutting in
front of me, when simply by waiting a couple more seconds they could
have pulled in to the bus stop after I had passed through. They also
seem to take great delight in driving as close to the LH curb as
possible, thereby forcing you to stop or at least giving you a bloody
good fright.

I expect bus drivers consider setting down the passengers as close as
possible to the kerb a higher priority than inconveniencing other traffic.

Not that that's an excuse for running people off the road.

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I remember my school days in East Burwood (Vic). The busses along
Burwood Hwy would do the same thing. I used to dread them coming and
hop on the footpath to let them pass :eek: .

Last week I rode 480 km down east coast of Tasmania and a couple of
tourist busses also were particularly aggressive towards our peleton.
What is it with these guys? 🙁

What did they do? Was it really dangerous stuff?

This same post could be written with pretty much any other road user
named. eg. truck drivers, mums in 4WDs, volvo drivers, P platers,
etc...

I just don't see it. In years of riding I've only ever gotten grief
or aggro from a tiny number of people. Maybe I've become conditioned
to all the [censored] and just don't notice them as much?🙂

The only exception for me is taxi drivers, who just seem to be
universally selfish and arrogant.

I spose it's just a difference in perception. I've all but stopped
getting angry on the road since I stopped expecting decent behaviour
from other road users 🙂

--
Nick

Well, for starters, take down details of the incidents, particularly noting the companies name.....maybe start here:
metrotas.com.aumetrotas.com.auOpen ↗

Also contact Tim & co at Bicycle Tasmania;
biketas.org.auBikeTasOpen ↗

Invariably all commercial buses have signage down the sides - so take note of it. Simply remaining [censored] won't do - report the incident to the company concerned & follow it up. The drivers will keep repeating inappropriate road behaviour if admin. don't receive feedback. When reporting the incident maintain a considered balanced approach - ie: helps me, helps you - and remember to follow up all communications. I maybe sounding a tad too optimistic but hey it's worth a try. Having a ruddy big MTT bus tailgating me along Ashbolt was one of several incidents that made me give up cycling as a kid, these days I believe I'm probably safer cycling on Punt Road or Bell Street. 🙄

cheers & hope this helps. 😉

You get a bus license with every can of coke.
Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.

What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.

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Quoted message said:

You get a bus license with every can of coke.
Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near
misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law
unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.

What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think
the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.

--
Bikelux

Dear bikelux.....................
I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come and
have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you get
through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when applicants
realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers in STA
alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are many good
drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test, another
2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
thought!!
Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially in
Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see what
some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't been
more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is invincible.

The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops
along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike, i
just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called defensive
riding.

I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central station,
he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into the
bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St and
into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the teenager
was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his skateboard
and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the bus, then to
my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands in the air, and
picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a fatality and I
was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky the driver seen
him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside on the floor just
because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame the BUS driver isn't
it?
So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask you
again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope I'll
be your trainer!!

Regards
DJ

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You get a bus license with every can of coke.
Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near
misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law
unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.

What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think
the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.

--
Bikelux

Dear bikelux.....................
I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come and
have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you get
through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when
applicants realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers
in STA alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are
many good drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test, another
2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
thought!!
Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially in
Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see what
some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't been
more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is
invincible.

The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops
along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike, i
just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called
defensive riding.

I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central station,
he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into
the bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St
and into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the
teenager was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his
skateboard and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the
bus, then to my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands
in the air, and picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a
fatality and I was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky
the driver seen him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside
on the floor just because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame
the BUS driver isn't it?
So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask
you again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope
I'll be your trainer!!

Regards
DJ

Oh yes, I need to add another thing, let me assure anyone, that if a bus
driver or any driver of a heavy vehicle like a bus/truck etc is found
guilty or is deemed to be at fault in an accident or incident especially in
regards to a fatality, they will be penalised by the legal system more
severely than a normal private car driver as they are considered to be
professional drivers and the magistrates are often tougher on us. Also, If
a public transport driver is found to be negligent, not only will he be
suspended from holding a licence, depending on severity of the charge, but
could be jailed, but at the minimum, suspended untill the court case is
heard, which can take months or years, at no pay or minimal payment for
light duties off the road, no overtime, no penalty rates, just basic
dollars till it's proven otherwise. Beleive me, we don't get off scott
free, many have been sacked for doing stupid things or just making the
wrong decision.

DJ

DJ said:

Dear bikelux.....................
I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come and
have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you get
through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when applicants
realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers in STA
alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are many good
drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test, another
2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
thought!!
Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially in
Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see what
some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't been
more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is invincible.

The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops
along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike, i
just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called defensive
riding.

I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central station,
he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into the
bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St and
into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the teenager
was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his skateboard
and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the bus, then to
my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands in the air, and
picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a fatality and I
was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky the driver seen
him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside on the floor just
because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame the BUS driver isn't
it?
So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask you
again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope I'll
be your trainer!!

Regards
DJ

Dear DJ.....

the incident quite clearly exampled here was buses passing a bike (usually quite close and dangerously) merely to pull in to the left, or thru the space the cyclist was about to be in/is in.
There was/is no errant riding on the cyclists' part, just [censored] driving when a myriad of options were available to the bus driver!

I agree with how many fools do dumb things in front of buses (changeing lanes before a red light thus shortening stopping distances in front of buses/trucks is a fool's favourite) however this aint it!

Congratulations on being aware that "everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should realise to take extra precautions".

How could one apply this lame statement to a cyclist IN FRONT OF YOU, MR BUS DRIVER??? Simple.
YOU CANT!!!
You can see the cyclist IN FRONT OF YOU. travelling the same direction as you. FOR A LONG TIME.
No sudden movements, no changeing lanes, no riding a skateboard off the curb, etc, etc, generalisations, blah, blah, blah...
The bus driver is totally armed with the facts, truth, and solely alone in the input to what happens in this scenario, so DEAL!
Slow down for all of 3 seconds and be comforted that your viagra awaits you where it may do some good. We all want to get home in one piece, including your passengers. stop throwing em round the cockpit just cos you're trying to compensate for something, little man.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> "DJ" == DJ <[email hidden]> writes:

DJ> The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out
DJ> of stops along busy areas, so those who know they might be
DJ> harder to see should realise to take extra precautions, I know i
DJ> do when i'm out on my bike, i just hang back to see or predict
DJ> what my happen next, it's called defensive riding.

Riding along Beach Road (Melbourne) a meter out from the kerb
approaching traffic lights, overtaken by bus who then cuts back in to 2
inches from the kerb and stops at the red light.

Unfortunately he hadn't completed passing me before he swerved in,
causing me to all but fall on the foot path. Defensive riding gets you
only so far, we need co-operation from other road users as well.

I very petulantly planted my bike in front of him 3 meters out of the
kerb before the lights changed. Lots of tooting as I pedaled along at
30Km/h but he did give me enough room when he finally overtook. Hope he
got the message.

No, it wasn't big and it wasn't clever and nowadays I wouldn't do that.
As a general rule if motorists in front of me at the lights can't easily
overtake me I'll just wait in traffic, I prefer that to having them
squeeze past me as I get up to speed again.

Nowadays I'd take his rego and report him.
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Cheers
Euan

"flyingdutch" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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DJ said:

Dear bikelux.....................
I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come
and
have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you
get
through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when
applicants
realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers in STA
alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are many
good
drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test,
another
2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
thought!!
Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially
in
Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see
what
some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't
been
more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is
invincible.

The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of
stops
along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike,
i
just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called
defensive
riding.

I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central
station,
he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into
the
bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St
and
into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the
teenager
was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his
skateboard
and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the bus,
then to
my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands in the
air, and
picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a fatality and
I
was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky the driver
seen
him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside on the floor
just
because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame the BUS driver
isn't
it?
So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask
you
again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope
I'll
be your trainer!!

Regards
DJ

Dear DJ.....

the incident quite clearly exampled here was buses passing a bike
(usually quite close and dangerously) merely to pull in to the left, or
thru the space the cyclist was about to be in/is in.
There was/is no errant riding on the cyclists' part, just [censored] driving
when a myriad of options were available to the bus driver!

I agree with how many fools do dumb things in front of buses (changeing
lanes before a red light thus shortening stopping distances in front of
buses/trucks is a fool's favourite) however this aint it!

Congratulations on being aware that "everyone knows that buses have to
pull in and out of stops along busy areas, so those who know they might
be harder to see should realise to take extra precautions".

How could one apply this lame statement to a cyclist IN FRONT OF YOU,
MR BUS DRIVER??? Simple.
YOU CANT!!!
You can see the cyclist IN FRONT OF YOU. travelling the same direction
as you. FOR A LONG TIME.
No sudden movements, no changeing lanes, no riding a skateboard off the
curb, etc, etc, generalisations, blah, blah, blah...
The bus driver is totally armed with the facts, truth, and solely alone
in the input to what happens in this scenario, so DEAL!
Slow down for all of 3 seconds and be comforted that your viagra awaits
you where it may do some good. We all want to get home in one piece,
including your passengers. stop throwing em round the cockpit just cos
you're trying to compensate for something, little man.

--
flyingdutch

Thanks for your Imput Dutchie, I must admit I'm not aware of the incident
details in Sydney that bikelux was referring to, however to make a
generalised statement in regards to Bus licences are as common as coke cans
and being a law unto themselves or similar got my goat up a bit and is total
[censored], If we do wrong, we cop [censored] bigtime from the company and the law.I
don't know what it's like in Victoria but here in NSW penalties are
severe.In a bad or fatal accident, when the RTA, Police and the Ministry of
Transport get into it, the [censored] generally hits the fan...big time!!

Now assuming that what you stated is true about this cyclist being in front
of a bus just up from a bus stop, yes i agree totally, the bus driver should
just hang back till the cyclist is past the stop, as I do and have always
done,and I teach my trainees to do likewise.

Hey Dutchie, I'm a cylist too and I've got nothing to prove to anyone and
I'm proud at what I do for a living, I'm no Little man as you put it, and I
always compensate for others on the road which is why my accident rate is
extremely low, maybe I'm just one of a few that understands and knows what
it's like on a bike, but I also experience it from both sides.

I was in the bus behind the referred bus in my story regarding the
skateboard watching it happen from a relatively safe distance and I rarely
throw passengers around. Mate, out of 3,800 drivers, theres bound to be few
bad eggs.

Was this Bus driver one of the Government Bussies or a Private Company
employee? fill me in on the details.

Was there any wittnesses in the case of this cyclist being killed, had the
driver been charged or does nobody know? Usually if a death occurs there is
a major enquiry, followed by a court case if the driver was at fault. Seems
to me that in this case he was, I bet he's not driving now if he was found
guilty.Well not with our organisation anyway!!

Unfortunately, I can't answer for those Bus drivers/truck drivers etc who do
stupid things just as you can't answer for every stupid cyclist etc, but I
know there are many responsible ppl out there driving the public around or
commutting on bikes.

Dutchie, if I want to raise a debate, or discuss something or even question
someone's comments, at least I don't go and get real personal and berate and
name calling for anyone's opinion, name calling is for children. Why do you
feel it's neccesary???

Kindest regards

DJ

DJ said:

Dutchie, if I want to raise a debate, or discuss something or even question
someone's comments, at least I don't go and get real personal and berate and name calling for anyone's opinion, name calling is for children. Why do you feel it's neccesary???

Kindest regards

DJ

no names called as far as i can tell DJ. just getting a tad bored with the amount of stereotypes littering the thread. And as far as i can tell cyclists dont ride skateboards...

F-'who-used-to-ride-skateboards-but found-they-dont-go-uphill-so-fast'-D

I wouldn't have your job if they offered me all the gold in fort knox DJ. I can appreciate that it's not an easy task. I appologise for the generalisation.
I can relate an incident which happened to me about two years ago but I won't add anymore fuel to the fire.

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"Bikelux" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You get a bus license with every can of coke.
Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near
misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law
unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.

What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think
the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.

--
Bikelux

Dear bikelux.....................
I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come and
have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you get
through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when

applicants

Quoted message said:

realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers in STA
alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are many

good

Quoted message said:

drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test, another
2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
thought!!
Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially in
Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see what
some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't been
more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is

invincible.

Quoted message said:

The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops
along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike, i
just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called

defensive

Quoted message said:

riding.

I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central station,
he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into

the

Quoted message said:

bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St and
into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the

teenager

Quoted message said:

was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his skateboard
and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the bus, then

to

Quoted message said:

my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands in the air,

and

Quoted message said:

picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a fatality and I
was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky the driver seen
him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside on the floor

just

Quoted message said:

because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame the BUS driver

isn't

Quoted message said:

it?
So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask

you

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again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope I'll
be your trainer!!

Regards
DJ

You've publicly admitted to driving a bus for a living? Have you no shame?

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You get a bus license with every can of coke.
Only last year a cyclist was killed by a bus and I've seen so many near
misses it's scary. Exercise extreme caution near buses. They're a law
unto themselves , all backed up by the authorities.

What happened with that fatal incident in Sydney? I don't even think
the bus driver got a slap on the wrist.

--
Bikelux

Dear bikelux.....................
I can send you an application to apply for Sydney Buses bikelux, come and
have a go and get your BUS licence, I garantee that by the time you get
through the training, your head will be spinning, it's then when

applicants

Quoted message said:

realise it's not as easy as it looks. Yes, out of 3,800 drivers in STA
alone, you get some nongs that shouldn't be there, but there are many

good

Quoted message said:

drivers as well trying to do a very demanding job.
Out of every 10 people who join us, 3 won't make the driving test,
another
2-3 will probably leave within the first 12 months. Harder than they
thought!!
Unfortunately there has been a death or two with bikeriders, especially
in
Sydney, but (and I'm not making excuses for anyone here) If you see what
some clowns on bikes and skateboards do, I'm surprised there hasn't been
more fatalities, it's hard enough trying to dodge rampant pedestrians
jaywalking around the city let alone a cyclist who thinks he is

invincible.

Quoted message said:

The thing is, everyone knows that buses have to pull in and out of stops
along busy areas, so those who know they might be harder to see should
realise to take extra precautions, I know i do when i'm out on my bike, i
just hang back to see or predict what my happen next, it's called

defensive

Quoted message said:

riding.

I seen a teenager in George St Syd the other morning from Central
station,
he was flying down the footpath on his skateboard, jumped the kurb into

the

Quoted message said:

bus lane as a bus was trying to turn from Rawson Place into George St and
into the Bus lane, there was no-way for the driver to see what the

teenager

Quoted message said:

was doing as he was going so quick, the kid then jumped off his
skateboard
and back onto the kurb sending his skateboard flying under the bus, then

to

Quoted message said:

my amazement , the kid ran infront of the bus with his hands in the air,

and

Quoted message said:

picked up his skateboard and ran off, that could've been a fatality and I
was holding my breath waiting for the blood to flow, lucky the driver
seen
him in time, slammed on the brakes and sent people inside on the floor

just

Quoted message said:

because of this kid's stupidity, so, It's easy to blame the BUS driver

isn't

Quoted message said:

it?
So come on bikelux, come and join the buses, if you pass, then i'll ask

you

Quoted message said:

again about your comment on bus licences with coke.............I hope
I'll
be your trainer!!

Regards
DJ

You've publicly admitted to driving a bus for a living? Have you no shame?

Yeah, so? what's wrong with that? hell of a lot better than driving
garbage trucks, although both have many similarities!!

I'm proud of what I do mate, It's a good honest job mate, I'm no dole
bludger and I make a hell of a lot more money than many office jocks(no
offence to office jocks intended), ave 50 - 65 k pa , best of all, free
public transport around Sydney mate 24/7, very handy to join different bike
rides aound the place and for a cheap night out, oh yes, free uniforms
mate...only have to supply the jocks, oh yes and theres more!! 2 x free
holiday passes a year on bus , train and ferry mate and interstate as
well.......we at least keep many other cars off the road, not like the rail
lately which are driving people back on the road....buses can go
anywhere....that's why the government likes us so much. We get in there and
move people around mate, emergency rail hirings, special events and remember
the 2000 Olympics? Only for us, we saved what was almost a transport
disaster when all the private buses got lost as most the guys were from out
of town.

No shame here mate...absolutely none at all!! So, while we are on the
subject, are you game to say what you do?

Regards

DJ

DJ said:

No shame here mate...absolutely none at all!! So, while we are on the
subject, are you game to say what you do?

Regards

DJ

sorry. could you repeat the question, mate? couldnt hear what you were sayin cos some guy kept saying 'mate' all the time. sorry DJ, couldnt resist.
Can we take it as given that you instruct Busdriver's about how to drive when in the presence of cyclists? cheers FD

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DJ said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You've publicly admitted to driving a bus for a living? Have you no shame?

Yeah, so? what's wrong with that? hell of a lot better than driving
garbage trucks, although both have many similarities!!

I'm proud of what I do mate, It's a good honest job mate, I'm no dole
bludger and I make a hell of a lot more money than many office jocks(no
offence to office jocks intended), ave 50 - 65 k pa , best of all, free
public transport around Sydney mate 24/7, very handy to join different bike
rides aound the place and for a cheap night out, oh yes, free uniforms
mate...only have to supply the jocks, oh yes and theres more!! 2 x free
holiday passes a year on bus , train and ferry mate and interstate as
well.......we at least keep many other cars off the road, not like the rail
lately which are driving people back on the road....buses can go
anywhere....that's why the government likes us so much. We get in there and
move people around mate, emergency rail hirings, special events and remember
the 2000 Olympics? Only for us, we saved what was almost a transport
disaster when all the private buses got lost as most the guys were from out
of town.

No shame here mate...absolutely none at all!! So, while we are on the
subject, are you game to say what you do?

Regards

DJ

No accusations of shame from me... putting aside all the fringe benefits you outlined (mate), a full time job driving around Sydney would have to be one of the most frustrating jobs - respect!

Ritch (works in finance)

OK OK...........I think I've said too much
already........MATE!!.........rolleyes🙂

DJ couldn't resist one more 'mate' either 🙂

Well I've hung up the cashtray & tickets for a week from now and going on a
hard earned break( I think I need it after this thread ) hahahaha

Well, whatever we do, I'm glad we do it well and keep Australia, the best
country on earth going.

Keep well fellas, cyas in the new year and I hope 2005 is great for one and
all...take care!!

I'll be thinkin' of you all while i'm danglin my line and sipping a coldie
on the mighty Clarence river.

Best regards

DJ

DJ said:

OK OK...........I think I've said too much
already........MATE!!.........rolleyes🙂

DJ couldn't resist one more 'mate' either 🙂

Well I've hung up the cashtray & tickets for a week from now and going on a
hard earned break( I think I need it after this thread ) hahahaha

Well, whatever we do, I'm glad we do it well and keep Australia, the best
country on earth going.

Keep well fellas, cyas in the new year and I hope 2005 is great for one and
all...take care!!

I'll be thinkin' of you all while i'm danglin my line and sipping a coldie
on the mighty Clarence river.

Best regards

DJ

Well all this seems to confirm my suspicions. There is one considerate bus driver in Sydney. As for the rest of the country, we're all irrelevant as far as bus drivers are concerned.

Next time I'll be seen occupying the middle of the lane so there is no room at all to squeeze past on the right. If you can't join 'em, beat 'em.

Who's up for a ride on Christmas morning? No busses on the road and burn up some energy before getting stuck into Christmas lunch. I'll be doing the Granton, Tea Tree, Richmond circuit, you're welcome to join me.

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 at 05:00 GMT, Spider1977 (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Well all this seems to confirm my suspicions. There is one considerate
bus driver in Sydney. As for the rest of the country, we're all
irrelevant as far as bus drivers are concerned.

I took the bus up to Coonabarabran (central NSW) a few days ago, and
everyone was chatting at Echuca (close to midnight). We started
talking about bad drivers, and the bus driver started complaining
about cyclists - you know -- standard red-light running and stuff like
that. Couldn't convince him that not all cyclists were like that.

He made the comment that he would like to wear one as a hood ornament.

That ticked me off a little bit.

That, and the cost of the ticket, the sardine can nature of the bus,
and the length of the trip. Oh, and the fact that the bus to Melbourne
had broken down the night before, so was parked and repaired at some
remote NSW town overnight, and we were driven in a hire bus that had
to be back in Melbourne a few hours later. The drivers switched over
when we arrived at the town with the "repaired" bus, but the new
driver wasn't told that he was now driving a bus that had just broken
down. So when he tried to start it, and it failed to start (new
problem - dead battery), he spent half an hour (at 1:30am) trying to
work out what was wrong, then an hour trying to jump start it. It is
amusing watching 15 men grabbing onto a bus bull-bar, and trying to
push start a bus. Didn't move a centimeter. The ute didn't have enough
power in its batteries to start the bus, and it was only when another
bus was brought around that we got the batteries charged.

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