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  1. I was riding home from work today on the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan bike path
    when I stopped at the traffic lights at the intersection of Newcastle
    Street and Canberra Ave. When the lights changed, I crossed and waited
    on the traffic island for vehicles turning left on the slip lane fron
    Newcastle Street. A driver in a Toyota Avalon, rego DQ1111 stopped,
    flashed his lights and motioned me to cross. He didn't have to do that,
    as I was prepared to wait, but I gave a thank-you wave and crossed over
    onto the bike path.

    A lot of Canberra drivers are very aggressive with cyclists, which is
    the main reason why I use the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan path instead of the
    Monaro Hwy and Lanyon Drive. It was a refreshing change to encounter
    one who stopped when he didn't have to - maybe it was because he was
    from Queanbeyan ;-)

  2. Craig,

    That guy must have been one in a million.

    I get more abuse from drivers when i am riding home in Queanbeyan including
    (which is about 5 percent of my ride time) compared to when i am riding my
    bike in the ACT (the other 95 percent).

    "Craig Wilkes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was riding home from work today on the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan bike path when
    I stopped at the traffic lights at the intersection of Newcastle Street and
    Canberra Ave. When the lights changed, I crossed and waited on the traffic
    island for vehicles turning left on the slip lane fron Newcastle Street. A
    driver in a Toyota Avalon, rego DQ1111 stopped, flashed his lights and
    motioned me to cross. He didn't have to do that, as I was prepared to
    wait, but I gave a thank-you wave and crossed over onto the bike path.

    A lot of Canberra drivers are very aggressive with cyclists, which is the
    main reason why I use the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan path instead of the Monaro
    Hwy and Lanyon Drive. It was a refreshing change to encounter one who
    stopped when he didn't have to - maybe it was because he was from
    Queanbeyan ;-)

  3. Craig Wilkes said:


    I was riding home from work today on the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan bike path
    when I stopped at the traffic lights at the intersection of Newcastle
    Street and Canberra Ave. When the lights changed, I crossed and waited
    on the traffic island for vehicles turning left on the slip lane fron
    Newcastle Street. A driver in a Toyota Avalon, rego DQ1111 stopped,
    flashed his lights and motioned me to cross. He didn't have to do that,
    as I was prepared to wait, but I gave a thank-you wave and crossed over
    onto the bike path.

    A lot of Canberra drivers are very aggressive with cyclists, which is
    the main reason why I use the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan path instead of the
    Monaro Hwy and Lanyon Drive. It was a refreshing change to encounter
    one who stopped when he didn't have to - maybe it was because he was
    from Queanbeyan ;-)

    My mate Shaz told me the other day a very cute story from when she was
    in Mackay... riding along she came to the train tracks and a train was
    coming along so she slowed and waited. He braked, waved her through and
    yelled out the window "Go on love, you go, that's harder work than
    driving this thing."

    T

  4. Tamyka Bell said:
    Craig Wilkes said:


    I was riding home from work today on the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan bike
    path when I stopped at the traffic lights at the intersection of
    Newcastle Street and Canberra Ave. When the lights changed, I
    crossed and waited on the traffic island for vehicles turning left
    on the slip lane fron Newcastle Street. A driver in a Toyota
    Avalon, rego DQ1111 stopped, flashed his lights and motioned me to
    cross. He didn't have to do that, as I was prepared to wait, but I
    gave a thank-you wave and crossed over onto the bike path.

    A lot of Canberra drivers are very aggressive with cyclists, which
    is the main reason why I use the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan path instead
    of the Monaro Hwy and Lanyon Drive. It was a refreshing change to
    encounter one who stopped when he didn't have to - maybe it was
    because he was from Queanbeyan ;-)

    My mate Shaz told me the other day a very cute story from when she was
    in Mackay... riding along she came to the train tracks and a train was
    coming along so she slowed and waited. He braked, waved her through
    and yelled out the window "Go on love, you go, that's harder work than
    driving this thing."

    T

    I had one the other day. I was waiting at an intersection (multiple
    lanes both ways) to do a right turn.
    A bogan with a car load of long haired, tattooed passengers yells out
    to me.
    Expecting the normal [censored] he says "Mate, can you press the pedestrian
    crossing?"
    After saying thanks but no, he said "But I'm being nice & you're so
    used to getting [censored] from us cars".
    So I had to say "Fair enough", rode over & pressed the pedestrian
    button.
    The lights promptly changed and off we all went happy as larry.

  5. "Craig Wilkes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was riding home from work today on the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan bike path when
    I stopped at the traffic lights at the intersection of Newcastle Street and
    Canberra Ave. When the lights changed, I crossed and waited on the traffic
    island for vehicles turning left on the slip lane fron Newcastle Street. A
    driver in a Toyota Avalon, rego DQ1111 stopped, flashed his lights and
    motioned me to cross. He didn't have to do that, as I was prepared to
    wait, but I gave a thank-you wave and crossed over onto the bike path.

    A lot of Canberra drivers are very aggressive with cyclists, which is the
    main reason why I use the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan path instead of the Monaro
    Hwy and Lanyon Drive. It was a refreshing change to encounter one who
    stopped when he didn't have to - maybe it was because he was from
    Queanbeyan ;-)

    Theres quite a high possibility that the considerate motorists mentioned
    above,with the exception of the long haired bogun mentioned in a another
    reply, could be enthusiastic cyclists......even in our cars, we gotta help
    each other out!!

    DJ

  6. DJ said:

    "Craig Wilkes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was riding home from work today on the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan bike path when
    I stopped at the traffic lights at the intersection of Newcastle Street and
    Canberra Ave. When the lights changed, I crossed and waited on the traffic
    island for vehicles turning left on the slip lane fron Newcastle Street. A
    driver in a Toyota Avalon, rego DQ1111 stopped, flashed his lights and
    motioned me to cross. He didn't have to do that, as I was prepared to
    wait, but I gave a thank-you wave and crossed over onto the bike path.

    A lot of Canberra drivers are very aggressive with cyclists, which is the
    main reason why I use the Fyshwick-Queanbeyan path instead of the Monaro
    Hwy and Lanyon Drive. It was a refreshing change to encounter one who
    stopped when he didn't have to - maybe it was because he was from
    Queanbeyan ;-)

    Theres quite a high possibility that the considerate motorists mentioned
    above,with the exception of the long haired bogun mentioned in a another
    reply, could be enthusiastic cyclists......even in our cars, we gotta help
    each other out!!

    DJ


    Right on! There is a distressing tendency in this forum to see motorists as evil , although most of our SO's, siblings, parents , children and friends, and indeed we ourselves, are also that.

  7. p_b_floyd said:

    Right on! There is a distressing tendency in this forum to see
    motorists as evil , although most of our SO's, siblings, parents ,
    children and friends, and indeed we ourselves, are also that.

    Motorists really seem to appreciate it when I wave them on to turn
    left, as I'm riding behind and to the left of them up a hill. Doesn't
    hurt to be nice :-)

  8. What side of the road do you guys keep to, anyway? Please excuse my ignorance.

  9. Vcubed said:

    What side of the road do you guys keep to, anyway? Please excuse my ignorance.

    We're on the left side of the road in Oz. Britain and Japan understand the wisdom of this, but the rest of the world has yet to catch on 🙂

  10. Resound said:


    Vcubed said:

    What side of the road do you guys keep to, anyway? Please excuse my
    ignorance.

    We're on the left side of the road in Oz. Britain and Japan understand
    the wisdom of this, but the rest of the world has yet to catch on 🙂

    The way I understand it is that travelling on the left side made sense, as
    the right arm was then free to wield the sword and defend oneself against
    highwaymen. This "keep left" continued when the first vehicles appeared
    in Britain. (Does anyone know what side the Romans travelled on?)
    So, Keep Left was the original and logical system, and the French and
    Americans switched to Keep Right because, basically, they hated the
    English.

    Peter.

    --
    If you are careful enough in life, nothing bad -- or
    good -- will ever happen to you.

  11. Vcubed said:

    What side of the road do you guys keep to, anyway? Please excuse my
    ignorance.

    The left side is the right side. The right side is the wrong side. One
    of these days, the Left-Side-Driving countries (Australia, the UK,
    Japan, and probably others that I don't know offhand) will unite and
    convert the rest of the world, who so heinously ignore the One True Side
    Of The Road. By the sword, if necessary.

    Or maybe not. 🙂

    Excuse me, I really must be going.

    --
    My Usenet From: address now expires after two weeks. If you email me, and
    the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@ to usenet".

  12. Stuart Lamble said:


    The left side is the right side. The right side is the wrong side. One
    of these days, the Left-Side-Driving countries (Australia, the UK,
    Japan, and probably others that I don't know offhand) will unite and
    convert the rest of the world, who so heinously ignore the One True Side
    Of The Road. By the sword, if necessary.

    The Swedes, once left side drivers decided to become right side
    drivers in the 60s if I remember correctly or was it the 50s?. Being
    Swedish they did it in an orderly fashion. Bicycles on day one, cars
    day two and trucks day three. So sensible.

    Regards
    Bruce

  13. Beefheart Too said:

    The Swedes, once left side drivers decided to become right side
    drivers in the 60s if I remember correctly or was it the 50s?. Being
    Swedish they did it in an orderly fashion. Bicycles on day one, cars
    day two and trucks day three. So sensible.

    1967. They didn't change their trains though. They still have a lefty rail
    system.

    Theo

  14. Theo Bekkers said:
    Beefheart Too said:

    The Swedes, once left side drivers decided to become right side
    drivers in the 60s if I remember correctly or was it the 50s?. Being
    Swedish they did it in an orderly fashion. Bicycles on day one, cars
    day two and trucks day three. So sensible.

    1967. They didn't change their trains though. They still have a lefty rail
    system.

    On a serious note -- the reason for the change was the sheer amount of
    hassle and confusion when Swedes drove out of their country and into
    another that had a right-hand-side drive system. So they made the
    changeover to match the countries around them. Since trains run on
    rails, and hence aren't as subject to confusion (just follow the
    signals, and everything will be all right), there would have been no
    need, and no impetus, to change them. Probably. 🙂

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    the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@ to usenet".

  15. Stuart Lamble said:

    Theo Bekkers wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1967. They didn't change their trains though. They still have a
    lefty rail system.

    Quoted message said:

    On a serious note -- the reason for the change was the sheer amount of
    hassle and confusion when Swedes drove out of their country and into
    another that had a right-hand-side drive system. So they made the
    changeover to match the countries around them. Since trains run on
    rails, and hence aren't as subject to confusion (just follow the
    signals, and everything will be all right), there would have been no
    need, and no impetus, to change them. Probably. 🙂

    And that most of their cars were left-hand drive. OTOH, their only land
    border is with Norway, a country of about 3 million people. I doubt they go
    to mainland Europe by driving through Finland. They would car-ferry from
    Stockholm or near there. The trains were not a major thing and would have
    required changing every set of points in the country. I only mentioned the
    trains as a point of interest. most people never think of rail systems as
    right or left handed.

    Theo

  16. "Theo Bekkers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Stuart Lamble said:

    Theo Bekkers wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1967. They didn't change their trains though. They still have a
    lefty rail system.

    Quoted message said:

    On a serious note -- the reason for the change was the sheer amount of
    hassle and confusion when Swedes drove out of their country and into
    another that had a right-hand-side drive system. So they made the
    changeover to match the countries around them. Since trains run on
    rails, and hence aren't as subject to confusion (just follow the
    signals, and everything will be all right), there would have been no
    need, and no impetus, to change them. Probably. 🙂

    And that most of their cars were left-hand drive. OTOH, their only land
    border is with Norway, a country of about 3 million people. I doubt they
    go to mainland Europe by driving through Finland. They would car-ferry
    from Stockholm or near there. The trains were not a major thing and would
    have required changing every set of points in the country. I only
    mentioned the trains as a point of interest. most people never think of
    rail systems as right or left handed.

    Theo

    Not only that, but all locomotives and city electrics in Australia are
    standard Left Hand drive and the only reason the drivers of freight trains
    need mirrors, is to see if the carriages/freight wagons are still on the
    rails(derailments) or in the case of shunting, to make sure no-one is
    walking around near the train before moving, such as brake examiners or
    guards etc.

    DJ

    Quoted message said:
  17. DJ said:

    Not only that, but all locomotives and city electrics in Australia
    are standard Left Hand drive

    Hmmm. In Perth the electric rail-car drivers sit smack in the middle.
    Freight stuff is LHD.

    Theo

  18. Theo Bekkers said:
    DJ said:

    Not only that, but all locomotives and city electrics in Australia
    are standard Left Hand drive

    Hmmm. In Perth the electric rail-car drivers sit smack in the middle.
    Freight stuff is LHD.

    Theo


    At the risk of sounding as though I wear an anorak:

    Generally in Australia the trains run on the left, just like the cars.
    However the driver sits on the left because that is the side the signals
    are on.

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    Remove norubbish to reply direct

    Jack Russell

  19. "Jack Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Generally in Australia the trains run on the left, just like the cars.
    However the driver sits on the left because that is the side the signals
    are on.

    Generally?? I'd be a bit worried about the exceptions to this rule. :-)

    Cheers
    Peter
    - who always makes sure to sit with his back to the engine.

  20. quote='Jack Russell'Theo Bekkers said:
    DJ said:

    Not only that, but all locomotives and city electrics in Australia
    are standard Left Hand drive

    Hmmm. In Perth the electric rail-car drivers sit smack in the middle.
    Freight stuff is LHD.

    Theo


    At the risk of sounding as though I wear an anorak:

    Generally in Australia the trains run on the left, just like the cars.
    However the driver sits on the left because that is the side the signals
    are on.

    --
    Remove norubbish to reply direct

    Jack Russell[/QUOTE]

    More importantly, it's because that is the side the controls are on. 😄

    Ritch

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