Answering trolls

If you have time to waste, check out alt.troll and you will see who the trolls
are.

In article <[email hidden]>,

nck said:

Don't answer these people, PLEASE. We have recently had posts from people
who appear to be using cross-posting to the support groups to get away with
filthy and offensive language and imagery. They are NOT asking for help or
support or sympathy, they are sick bullies who use newsgroups to do and say
things that would get them thrown out anywhere else.
We can make filters for these people, but, when you answer them, then the
thread gets stuck up there, anyway.
Just a thought

The most important thing is EVERYONE NEEDS TO TRIM THE NEWSGROUP
LINES. (Yes, it's worth shouting.) People may put the other groups
back in, and we need to take them back out, every single post.
Real trolls would like nothing better than to have us all at each
others' throats instead of happily living our own lives. If well
intentioned people want to discuss factual issues of interest to all
groups, in all groups, they can put the effort into checking out separate
threads on separate groups. Challenging the goals we all have individually
decided on is especially unconscionable in all these groups with "support"
right in our names.

From soc.support.fat-acceptance,
Bernadette Bosky
--
Bernadette L. Bosky | [email hidden]
"Let the river run,/let all the dreamers/
wake the nation./Come, the New Jerusalem."
--Carly Simon

David Cohen said:

Killing turkeys causes winter.

Good women and good men should be more about justice for all, and
remember justice includes compassion...for the least of society...!!

Roger That said:

David Cohen said:

Killing turkeys causes winter.

Good women and good men should be more about justice for all, and
remember justice includes compassion...for the least of society...!!

Do you really consider turkeys to be part of society? And if so, would
it be accurate to describe them as "the least of society," when there
are plenty of other animals most people would never /dream/ of eating?

-Adam

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:32:41 GMT, Adam Fahy <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Roger That said:

David Cohen said:

Killing turkeys causes winter.

Good women and good men should be more about justice for all, and
remember justice includes compassion...for the least of society...!!

Do you really consider turkeys to be part of society? And if so, would
it be accurate to describe them as "the least of society," when there
are plenty of other animals most people would never /dream/ of eating?

Turkeys are an integral part of any eating societies' culture and as
such deserve respect.

Even as we speak, and despite the American 'Thanksgiving', millions of
turkeys worldwide are gearing up for Christmas, prepared to give their
all in the interests of gastronomy!!

I salute all turkeys and exalt in their 'fowlness'!! ;o)

John HUDSON said:

I salute all turkeys and exalt in their 'fowlness'!! ;o)

Hear hear. For was it not Ralph Waldo Emerson who said: "Nothing great
was ever achieved without turkeys."

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 14:57:15 -0500, Roger That <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

John HUDSON said:

I salute all turkeys and exalt in their 'fowlness'!! ;o)

Hear hear. For was it not Ralph Waldo Emerson who said: "Nothing great
was ever achieved without turkeys."

Very correct. And do not forget Thomas Paine's favorite maxim "Those
that yearn to taste freedom have never eaten turkey."

Jade

Is that where you hang out?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Xray586" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

If you have time to waste, check out alt.troll and you will see who the
trolls
are.

<< Is that where you hang out?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Xray586" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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If you have time to waste, check out alt.troll and you will see who the
trolls
are. >><BR><BR>

He, he, I wondered who would ask. No, it's just where I go to look for you.

Go and keep looking.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Xray586" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

<< Is that where you hang out?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Xray586" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

If you have time to waste, check out alt.troll and you will see who the
trolls
are. >><BR><BR>

He, he, I wondered who would ask. No, it's just where I go to look for
you.

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 07:57:55 -0600, nck <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Don't answer these people, PLEASE. We have recently had posts from people
who appear to be using cross-posting to the support groups to get away with
filthy and offensive language and imagery. They are NOT asking for help or
support or sympathy, they are sick bullies who use newsgroups to do and say
things that would get them thrown out anywhere else.
We can make filters for these people, but, when you answer them, then the
thread gets stuck up there, anyway.
Just a thought

<bring hand to temple>

nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah

<assuming different posture>

did did did did did did did did did did did did did

with
Bobby staring a hole through you.

By 1963, after the Bay of Pigs, the Missile Crisis and the cries
for escalation in Vietnam, Kennedy was moving toward the Sorenson-
Schlesinger side of the White House. By 1968, RFK was further to
the left than that, being hooked up with labor leaders like
Walter Reuther and Cesar Chavez. As Otis Chandler, a firm member
of the establishment, said after Bobby's death: "I guess there's
no one to stand up for the weak and the poor now." That memory is
now being replaced by those of RFK cavorting with Monroe on the
beach; of JFK drinking martinis with Monroe's buddy Giancana; and
the Kennedys trying to take her life as they tried with Castro.

In the Anson piece, Hersh talks about changing the way people
think about the Kennedys. Talk about reversing the Church
Committee. That was just the beginning. These people could teach
Orwell something.

What will the future bring? Will Exner, still dying of cancer,
demand a DNA sample from John Kennedy Jr. to prove Jackie was
really his mother? Will Summers file a lawsuit demanding the
government turn over RFK's private snuff film of Monroe's murder?
Will Hersh now say that he was duped on the Monroe docs but now
he has the real McCoy: it was Jayne Mansfield all along. With Liz
Smith as the moderator, satire is impossible in this field.

But down deep, submerged but still present, there is a resistance
to all this. The public knows something is wrong. Two years ago,
CBS and the New York Times conducted a poll which asked the
respondents: If you could pick a President, any President, which
one would you choose to run the country today? The winner, in a
landslide, was John F. Kennedy who doubled the tally of the
second place finisher. In 198

criminal.9 According to his
own public estimate and boast before the American Enterprise Institute,
President Bush Jr. hired about 20 Straussians to occupy key positions in
his administration, intentionally taking offices where they could push
American foreign policy in favor of Israel and against its chosen
enemies such as Iraq, Iran, Syria, and the Palestinians.10 Most of the
Straussian Neo-Cons in the Bush Jr. administration and elsewhere are
Israel-firsters: What is "good" for Israel is by definition "good" for
the United States. Dual loyalties indeed.11

In addition, it was the Chicago Straussian cabal of pro-Israeli Neo-Cons
who set up a special "intelligence" unit within the Pentagon that was
responsible for manufacturing many of the bald-faced lies, deceptions,
half-truths, and sheer propaganda that the Bush Jr. administration then
disseminated to the lap-dog U.S. news media12 in order to generate
public support for a war of aggression against Iraq for the benefit of
Israel and in order to steal Iraq's oil.13 To paraphrase advice
Machiavelli once rendered to his Prince in Chapter XVIII of that book:
Those who want to deceive will always find those willing to be
deceived.14 As I can attest from my personal experience as an alumnus of
the University of Chicago Department of Political Science, the Bible of
Chicago's Neo-Con Straussian cabal is Machiavelli's The Prince. We
students had to know our Machiavelli by heart and rote at the Universi

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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 07:57:55 -0600, nck <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Don't answer these people, PLEASE. We have recently had posts from
people who appear to be using cross-posting to the support groups to
get away with filthy and offensive language and imagery. They are
NOT asking for help or support or sympathy, they are sick bullies
who use newsgroups to do and say things that would get them thrown
out anywhere else.
We can make filters for these people, but, when you answer them,
then the thread gets stuck up there, anyway.
Just a thought

Been there done that and it doesn't work. We have filters for this
morons and they morph.

Lurk and learn.

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"Be who you are and say what
you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."

- --Unknown
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"Lady Veteran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 07:57:55 -0600, nck <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Don't answer these people, PLEASE. We have recently had posts from
people who appear to be using cross-posting to the support groups to
get away with filthy and offensive language and imagery. They are
NOT asking for help or support or sympathy, they are sick bullies
who use newsgroups to do and say things that would get them thrown
out anywhere else.
We can make filters for these people, but, when you answer them,
then the thread gets stuck up there, anyway.
Just a thought

Been there done that and it doesn't work. We have filters for this
morons and they morph.

Lurk and learn.

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"Be who you are and say what
you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."

- --Unknown
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:20:46 -0500, "Jim" <[email hidden]>

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"Lady Veteran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 07:57:55 -0600, nck <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Don't answer these people, PLEASE. We have recently had posts
from people who appear to be using cross-posting to the support
groups to get away with filthy and offensive language and imagery.
They are NOT asking for help or support or sympathy, they are
sick bullies who use newsgroups to do and say things that would
get them thrown out anywhere else.
We can make filters for these people, but, when you answer them,
then the thread gets stuck up there, anyway.
Just a thought

Been there done that and it doesn't work. We have filters for this
morons and they morph.

Lurk and learn.

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"Be who you are and say what
you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."

- --Unknown
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Begin and end PGP..somehow this makes me seem smart and important.

Jim

Well if yo aren't sure if yo are smart or important, hide until you
find out.

LV

Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"Be who you are and say what
you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."

- --Unknown
- -------------------------------

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"Lucas Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

nck said:

Don't answer these people, PLEASE. We have recently had posts from people
who appear to be using cross-posting to the support groups to get away
with
filthy and offensive language and imagery. They are NOT asking for help
or
support or sympathy, they are sick bullies who use newsgroups to do and
say
things that would get them thrown out anywhere else.
We can make filters for these people, but, when you answer them, then the
thread gets stuck up there, anyway.
Just a thought

The [censored] known as "ATP" crossposts this stuff just to pick juvenile
fights.

If you are not a juvenile, then killfile him and ignore any such posts.
Problem solved.

Killfile me to while you are at it. Most regulars already have but alot of
newbies have to sift through my garbage.
Best to just get it done.

Jim

Lucas Buck <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:1102890493.119129bad5541ce6c76dca75a35ac5ba@teranews:

Quoted message said:

The [censored] known as "ATP" crossposts this stuff just to pick juvenile
fights.

If you are not a juvenile, then killfile him and ignore any such
posts. Problem solved.

Killfiles can solve the problem for an individual but not for a newsgroup.
The people in alt.troll who play these games "for score and the support of
real life" are actually aided by fillfiles.

More damage is done to them if you can figure out which "owned" group they
are residing in, including in allof their crossposts, so they can "manage"
their many trollings from one location. Deleting such groups from the
crossposts help.

Gandalf Parker

Jim said:

"Lucas Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1102890493.119129bad5541ce6c76dca75a35ac5ba@teranews...

Quoted message said:

nck said:

Don't answer these people, PLEASE. We have recently had posts from people
who appear to be using cross-posting to the support groups to get away
with
filthy and offensive language and imagery. They are NOT asking for help
or
support or sympathy, they are sick bullies who use newsgroups to do and
say
things that would get them thrown out anywhere else.
We can make filters for these people, but, when you answer them, then the
thread gets stuck up there, anyway.
Just a thought

The [censored] known as "ATP" crossposts this stuff just to pick juvenile
fights.

If you are not a juvenile, then killfile him and ignore any such posts.
Problem solved.

Killfile me to while you are at it. Most regulars already have but alot of
newbies have to sift through my garbage.
Best to just get it done.

Who you callin' irregular ?

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