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Better grip than schwalbe marathon slick?

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  1. Hello there

    I've got a folding bike kitted out with a Heinzmann electric system. The tyres it came with, Schwalbe Marathon Slicks (35-406) are absolutely lethal in wet weather, as they have no side grip at all, so cornering is terrifying. With 20" wheels, there's less tyre on the road anyway, and with the extra weight distribution on the bike (I'm a tall man, so me and the bike together weigh about 100Kg!) I desperately want to fit some tyres that give more grip in the wet, and more grip generally.

    There isn't much to choose from at 20", but does anyone have suggestions for tyres of that size with better grip? The ones I've found so far are:
    Schwalbe Marathon
    Schwalbe Marathon Slick
    Schwalbe Stelvio
    Schwalbe City Jet
    Continental Grand Prix
    Continental Top Touring 2000

    Thanks in advance for your time...

    - yoxi

  2. "yoxi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Hello there

    I've got a folding bike kitted out with a Heinzmann electric system.
    The tyres it came with, Schwalbe Marathon Slicks (35-406) are
    absolutely lethal in wet weather, as they have no side grip at all, so
    cornering is terrifying. With 20" wheels, there's less tyre on the road
    anyway, and with the extra weight distribution on the bike (I'm a tall
    man, so me and the bike together weigh about 100Kg!) I desperately want
    to fit some tyres that give more grip in the wet, and more grip
    generally.

    There isn't much to choose from at 20", but does anyone have
    suggestions for tyres of that size with better grip? The ones I've
    found so far are:
    Schwalbe Marathon
    Schwalbe Marathon Slick
    Schwalbe Stelvio
    Schwalbe City Jet
    Continental Grand Prix
    Continental Top Touring 2000


    Check out Avocet Fasgrip, Sheldon Brown has them:

    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/406.html

  3. bfd said:

    "yoxi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Hello there

    I've got a folding bike kitted out with a Heinzmann electric


    system.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The tyres it came with, Schwalbe Marathon Slicks (35-406) are
    absolutely lethal in wet weather, as they have no side grip at all,


    so

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cornering is terrifying. With 20" wheels, there's less tyre on the


    road

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anyway, and with the extra weight distribution on the bike (I'm a


    tall

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    man, so me and the bike together weigh about 100Kg!) I desperately


    want

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to fit some tyres that give more grip in the wet, and more grip
    generally.

    There isn't much to choose from at 20", but does anyone have
    suggestions for tyres of that size with better grip? The ones I've
    found so far are:
    Schwalbe Marathon
    Schwalbe Marathon Slick
    Schwalbe Stelvio
    Schwalbe City Jet
    Continental Grand Prix
    Continental Top Touring 2000


    Check out Avocet Fasgrip, Sheldon Brown has them:

    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/406.html

    Further, although I have no experience with Schwalbe tires, just
    because its a "slick" does not mean it has less traction:
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/slicks.html

  4. yoxi said:

    Hello there

    I've got a folding bike kitted out with a Heinzmann electric system.
    The tyres it came with, Schwalbe Marathon Slicks (35-406) are
    absolutely lethal in wet weather, as they have no side grip at all, so
    cornering is terrifying. With 20" wheels, there's less tyre on the road
    anyway, and with the extra weight distribution on the bike (I'm a tall
    man, so me and the bike together weigh about 100Kg!) I desperately want
    to fit some tyres that give more grip in the wet, and more grip
    generally.

    There isn't much to choose from at 20", but does anyone have
    suggestions for tyres of that size with better grip? The ones I've
    found so far are:
    Schwalbe Marathon
    Schwalbe Marathon Slick
    Schwalbe Stelvio
    Schwalbe City Jet
    Continental Grand Prix
    Continental Top Touring 2000

    You need Vredestein S-Licks. No tread to speak of (it's useless on
    asphalt anyway) but the soft rubber compound gives superb grip. And
    yes, they come in 20".

  5. yoxi said:

    with the extra weight distribution on the bike (I'm a tall
    man, so me and the bike together weigh about 100Kg!) I
    desperately want to fit some tyres that give more grip in
    the wet, and more grip generally.

    I weigh over 100kg sans bike, and I like the 20-inch Schwalbe tyres on
    my folding bike: Spezial [like City Jet] front, Big Apple rear.

    --
    "Bicycling is a healthy and manly pursuit with much
    to recommend it, and, unlike other foolish crazes,
    it has not died out." -- The Daily Telegraph (1877)

  6. Zog The Undeniable said:
    yoxi said:

    Hello there

    I've got a folding bike kitted out with a Heinzmann electric


    system.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The tyres it came with, Schwalbe Marathon Slicks (35-406) are
    absolutely lethal in wet weather, as they have no side grip at all,


    so

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cornering is terrifying. With 20" wheels, there's less tyre on the


    road

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anyway, and with the extra weight distribution on the bike (I'm a


    tall

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    man, so me and the bike together weigh about 100Kg!) I desperately


    want

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to fit some tyres that give more grip in the wet, and more grip
    generally.

    There isn't much to choose from at 20", but does anyone have
    suggestions for tyres of that size with better grip? The ones I've
    found so far are:
    Schwalbe Marathon
    Schwalbe Marathon Slick
    Schwalbe Stelvio
    Schwalbe City Jet
    Continental Grand Prix
    Continental Top Touring 2000

    You need Vredestein S-Licks. No tread to speak of (it's useless on
    asphalt anyway) but the soft rubber compound gives superb grip. And
    yes, they come in 20".

    Interesting, according to the following the Vredestein S-Licks has a
    tread (Gaerlan calls it grooves):

    http://www.gaerlan.com/bikeparts/parts/406wheel/wheelbmx.html

    In comparison, only the Avocet and Tioga appear to offer *true* slick
    tires with no tread or grooves.

  7. bfd said:

    ...
    Check out Avocet Fasgrip, Sheldon Brown has them:

    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/406.html

    The 44-406 Avocets have the best wet traction of any ISO 406 tire I have
    tried (with the 37-406 Primo Comet being one of the poorest wet traction
    tires). The Avocets also have a round cross-section that provides better
    handling during hard cornering than the Tioga Comp Pool which has a
    sharp shoulder molded into the tread.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
    Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.

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