Visibility Enhancement

: Please view www.gloglov.com. I have no confirmed data to prove these
: visibility enhncements do what is purported. They are cheap
: considering the advantage one may gain and easily incorporated in
: cycling attire. I believe that when I signal a turn in traffic, my
: hand will more realiably be seen. It seems obvious that a bear hand
: or one covered with a glove will not be as visible as when wearing
: this product.
: Other than being a customer, I have no connection with this product or
: company.
: Jim

Hey, just a bear riding a bicycle would be enough to get attention in
Dallas!

Pat in TX

: Please view www.gloglov.com. I have no confirmed data to prove these
: visibility enhncements do what is purported. They are cheap
: considering the advantage one may gain and easily incorporated in
: cycling attire. I believe that when I signal a turn in traffic, my
: hand will more realiably be seen. It seems obvious that a bear hand
: or one covered with a glove will not be as visible as when wearing
: this product.
: Other than being a customer, I have no connection with this product or
: company.
: Jim

Hey, just a bear riding a bicycle would be enough to get attention in
Dallas!

Pat in TX

They are just reflective tape sewn onto gloves - and lots of photography
tricks and hype:

"Visible up to 4 miles away with night vision goggles" I can se you take a
puff off a cigarette 4 miles away with NVGs.

"Jim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Please view www.gloglov.com. I have no confirmed data to prove these
visibility enhncements do what is purported. They are cheap
considering the advantage one may gain and easily incorporated in
cycling attire. I believe that when I signal a turn in traffic, my
hand will more realiably be seen. It seems obvious that a bear hand
or one covered with a glove will not be as visible as when wearing
this product.
Other than being a customer, I have no connection with this product or
company.
Jim

On 5 Dec 2004 07:06:01 -0800

(Jim) said:

Please view www.gloglov.com. I have no confirmed data to prove these
visibility enhncements do what is purported. They are cheap
considering the advantage one may gain and easily incorporated in
cycling attire. I believe that when I signal a turn in traffic, my
hand will more realiably be seen. It seems obvious that a bear hand
or one covered with a glove will not be as visible as when wearing
this product.

I considered modifying one of my own pairs of gloves, and then realized
that if they don't see the 18 blinking red LEDs on my taillight, they won't
see my glowing hand. One of these days some soccer mom is going to take my
left arm off.

: I considered modifying one of my own pairs of gloves, and then realized
: that if they don't see the 18 blinking red LEDs on my taillight, they
won't
: see my glowing hand. One of these days some soccer mom is going to take my
: left arm off.

Come to Texas and it'll be a yahoo driving a pickum up truck.

Pat in TX
:

"Eric Jorgensen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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One of these days some soccer mom is going to take my
left arm off.

You left out the SUV part. Soccer moms always drive SUVs. And they're
always a big SUV's. And you forgot the cell phone part. Soccer moms always
talk on cell phones while they drive. This is true. Just ask anybody.

Cycling would be safe again if we could get a law passed to make kid's
soccer illegal. Start a petition in your neighborhood. Do your part.
Let's get the soccer mom off the road and back in the kitchen where she
belongs.

skip

Sorry, Skip, but you make the premise that if there were no more soccer,
Moms would stop talking... take it from me, that just isn't true... they
would talk even more decrying the demise of soccer and how their kids are
now mentally malnourished.. And, who on the school board or who at the town
hall they should call to get soccer back.

I am of the opinion that most of those conversations while driving are of
the "yup, I'm almost at your house now, just getting ready to pull into your
driveway type".... and "when I get there, we can have a nice chat"...

Women just seem to have a 'need-to-talk' gene.... guys seem to have a
'need-to-watch-football' gene.
..
Arne, USA
..
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Quoted message said:

Cycling would be safe again if we could get a law passed to make kid's
soccer illegal. Start a petition in your neighborhood. Do your part.
Let's get the soccer mom off the road and back in the kitchen where she
belongs.

skip

"Arne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Sorry, Skip, but you make the premise that if there were no more soccer,
Moms would stop talking... take it from me, that just isn't true... they
would talk even more decrying the demise of soccer and how their kids are
now mentally malnourished.. And, who on the school board or who at the
town hall they should call to get soccer back.

I am of the opinion that most of those conversations while driving are of
the "yup, I'm almost at your house now, just getting ready to pull into
your driveway type".... and "when I get there, we can have a nice chat"...

Women just seem to have a 'need-to-talk' gene.... guys seem to have a
'need-to-watch-football' gene.
.
Arne, USA
.
.

Oh I know there's great truth to what you say Arne, but from reading ARBR it
is clear that it's the soccer moms who are the real troublemakers. Oh sure,
every now and again there is a little old blue haired lady down in Florida
who can barely see over the steering wheel of her 80's Cadillac or one of
them mullet haired trailer trash beer drinkin wife beatin 'necks in a Texas
pickup who will run a cyclist or two off the road here and there. But all
of us here at ARBR know soccer moms are the real menace and we simply must
join together to ban kid's soccer and get these women off the road.

Don't you agree?

skip

skip said:

You left out the SUV part. Soccer moms always drive SUVs. And they're
always a big SUV's. And you forgot the cell phone part. Soccer moms always
talk on cell phones while they drive. This is true. Just ask anybody.

Cycling would be safe again if we could get a law passed to make kid's
soccer illegal. Start a petition in your neighborhood. Do your part.
Let's get the soccer mom off the road and back in the kitchen where she
belongs.

skip

Well, THAT made me chuckle. Unfortunately, those soccer moms aren't just taking their kids to soccer. Each of their 2.2 kids, and often a few neighbor kids, are enrolled in several activities, meaning that the poor soccer mom has to cart kids to several practices a day, sometimes literally taking one kid from one practice to the next, then carting another kid between two different activities before picking up the first one. It goes without saying that the activities could not possibly be scheduled for the same location, the kids could not play on the same teams with each other, nor could the kids walk or ride their bikes. No, the pickup service is scheduled like a train, and heaven forbid that anything should cause a late arrival.

So the bottom line is, you have to outlaw soccer, softball, football, music lessons, swimming classes, etc. Yeah, that's the ticket! 😉

Here is the scene:

I'm driving down a state route 2 lane road. speed limit 45 mph.

Guy in a miata pulls out in front of me and does not accelerate, but goes
about 10 miles per hour.

I get on his rear bumper by virtue of my speed and thinking he is going to
accelerate (bad assumption on my part).

I blow horn and yell at him.

He leans over to look in his side view mirror... I can see he is talking on
cell phone....

Police car goes by in other direction....... Miata pulls off to side and
into convenient driveway.

Fast forward 2 minutes:

Police car did a 180, and pulls me over a couple of miles down the road. As
he is explaining to me talking on a cell phone is legal and the fellow was
probably just calling for directions and pulled into driveway of a
friend...... the Miata goes by..

I get a verbal warning. The a$$hole in the Miata dupes the cop and goes
merrily on his way....

So, the only thing I have against soccer in our growing community is all the
community fields are marked off with lime, the parents are saying we need
more fields "WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR THE KIDS!!" How sick of that one I am...

So, it's the phones, not the soccer........ my feeling is, if someone is
caught talking on a cell phone while driving, they are stopped and it is
destroyed on the spot, with a federally approved cell phone destruction
device (i.e., a hammer).... that would cut down on a lot of problems.......

Today, no kidding, a guy was weaving down the interstate.... why? He was
reading..........
..
Arne, USA
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"skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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But all

Quoted message said:

of us here at ARBR know soccer moms are the real menace and we simply must
join together to ban kid's soccer and get these women off the road.

Don't you agree?

skip

Quoted message said:

I get a verbal warning.

What the hell was the verbal warning for?

The Miata guy could have easily pulled into a driveway and THEN called for
directions on his cell-phone, instead of obstructing traffic.

Of course, the police officer could have cited the Miata driver for aggravated
obstruction of a highway of commerce, or failure to maintain reasonable
vigilance...there are *many* traffic enforcement laws on the books <g>.

What were you being "warned" for?

James S. Prine
http://hometown.aol.com/jsprine/

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:39:29 -0500

Arne said:

So, it's the phones, not the soccer........ my feeling is, if someone is
caught talking on a cell phone while driving, they are stopped and it is
destroyed on the spot, with a federally approved cell phone destruction
device (i.e., a hammer).... that would cut down on a lot of
problems.......

Here's my favorite.

My commute home from work used to have me turning right onto a busy two
lane+ left turn lane road where it intersects with the main drag. At
end-of-day rush the heavy traffic is going the opposite direction i am.

I then turn left about 100 yards down, onto a side street that passes
right by my block. This street terminates here, doesn't continue on the
other side. Traffic frequently backs up illegally across this intersection
under the perception that nobody needs to go down that road, or something.

So, I'm driving home one day, hang a right, pull into the left turn
lane, and, meet a soccer mom in her Escalade nose to nose in the left turn
lane. She's crossing the intersection /in the left turn lane/.

I sat there and stared at her for a good 10 minutes or so before she
figured out that i wasn't going to get out of my lane so that she could
illegally proceed through it. It was a while before anybody let her back
into her lane.

Sure, I was inconvenienced, but I'm way more patient than the average
soccer mom, and was more amused than annoyed. She was visibly enraged and
perplexed. How dare i block the path of royalty with my meager VW?

A month later the city finally installed a large island on this
intersection, protecting the west->south left turn lane. There were many
skid marks from truck tires across the top of it shortly.

Quoted message said:

Today, no kidding, a guy was weaving down the interstate.... why? He was
reading..........

Cops say that happens all the time. People try to deny it when they get
pulled over but the corners of the newspaper curled over the steering wheel
is a dead giveaway.

Don't even ask what some bored truckers do to pass the time.

Quoted message said:

Cops say that happens all the time. People try to deny it when they get
pulled over but the corners of the newspaper curled over the steering wheel
is a dead giveaway.

The ones playing video games or watching DVDs while driving are even more
amusing, particularly when they start lying.

I had one guy protest, stating that his LCD display was for his GPS system, so
I asked him to eject the map CD or cartridge so I could examine it. Sure
enough, out comes the CD-ROM for "Road Rage 2" or something like that...even
the guy laughed.

James S. Prine
http://hometown.aol.com/jsprine/

I was warned for following too closely. Given the snapshot the officer saw,
I didn't say much about it being caused by the jerk in the Miata, as verbal
warnings don't count against me..... I relate my side of the story and did
point out that the Miata had just gone by and he had goofed on the cop, but
not matter...... one of those things that worked out ok, just not as I would
have liked it to.....

But, coming the other way, all the cop really saw was me on his bumper
yelling and blowing my horn.
..
Arne, USA
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I get a verbal warning.

What the hell was the verbal warning for?

Quoted message said:

But, coming the other way, all the cop really saw was me on his bumper
yelling and blowing my horn.

Ah, ok. Understood.

James S. Prine
http://hometown.aol.com/jsprine/

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Quoted message said:

One of these days some soccer mom is going to take my
left arm off.

You left out the SUV part. Soccer moms always drive SUVs. And they're
always a big SUV's. And you forgot the cell phone part. Soccer moms

always

Quoted message said:

talk on cell phones while they drive. This is true. Just ask anybody.

Cycling would be safe again if we could get a law passed to make kid's
soccer illegal. Start a petition in your neighborhood. Do your part.
Let's get the soccer mom off the road and back in the kitchen where she
belongs.

skip

Won't work, then they'd sign the kids up for football, baseball and later
Rugby

Oddly enough around here Lacrosse is getting bug, no idea why

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"Eric Jorgensen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

One of these days some soccer mom is going to take my
left arm off.

You left out the SUV part. Soccer moms always drive SUVs. And they're
always a big SUV's. And you forgot the cell phone part. Soccer moms

always

Quoted message said:

talk on cell phones while they drive. This is true. Just ask anybody.

Cycling would be safe again if we could get a law passed to make kid's
soccer illegal. Start a petition in your neighborhood. Do your part.
Let's get the soccer mom off the road and back in the kitchen where she
belongs.

skip

Won't work, then they'd sign the kids up for football, baseball and later
Rugby

Oddly enough around here Lacrosse is getting bug, no idea why

Well, I've never heard a cyclist, not a single one, complain about football
moms, baseball moms, or rugby moms, much less lacrosse moms - it's the
soccer moms that are causing us all this trouble. Get the soccer moms off
the road and back in the kitchen where they belong and the problem is
sol-ved, as Peter Sellers used to say.

skip

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Quoted message said:

Won't work, then they'd sign the kids up for football, baseball and

later

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Rugby

Oddly enough around here Lacrosse is getting bug, no idea why

Well, I've never heard a cyclist, not a single one, complain about

football

Quoted message said:

moms, baseball moms, or rugby moms, much less lacrosse moms - it's the
soccer moms that are causing us all this trouble. Get the soccer moms off
the road and back in the kitchen where they belong and the problem is
sol-ved, as Peter Sellers used to say.

skip

But thats the point, those former soccer moms looking for something legal
will migrate to other sports and instead of complaining about said soccer
moms many here will then be complaining about football, baseball, or
lacrosse moms

Then of course if those other sports are banned they will create another
sport and the cycle continues. The real solution appears to simply be ban
moms

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"skip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Won't work, then they'd sign the kids up for football, baseball and

later

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Rugby

Oddly enough around here Lacrosse is getting bug, no idea why

Well, I've never heard a cyclist, not a single one, complain about

football

Quoted message said:

moms, baseball moms, or rugby moms, much less lacrosse moms - it's the
soccer moms that are causing us all this trouble. Get the soccer moms
off
the road and back in the kitchen where they belong and the problem is
sol-ved, as Peter Sellers used to say.

skip

But thats the point, those former soccer moms looking for something legal
will migrate to other sports and instead of complaining about said soccer
moms many here will then be complaining about football, baseball, or
lacrosse moms

Then of course if those other sports are banned they will create another
sport and the cycle continues. The real solution appears to simply be ban
moms

Mark, those other moms have been around forever without causing problems to
cyclists. They are as pure as the driven snow. Google them all and see for
yourself. Soccer moms are sole problem. Maybe house arrest and confinement
to the kitchen during kid soccer hours would work. Maybe in conjunction
with some form of rehabilitation. We shouldn't just sit back and say
there's nothing we can do while these women continue to prey on the cycling
world. It was only yesterday one of our cyclists said he was afraid one of
these women was going to take his left arm off.

If ARBR gets widespread complaints on football moms or other sports moms
we'll just have to deal with them on an individual group basis when the time
comes.

skip