Frustrating

Doug said:

Haven't been able to ride lately. I lost one half of a SRAM quick link while
cleaning the bike.

You don't have a chain tool? Just pop out one of the links and run a
short chain for a few days. Avoid the big-big combination, and
you'll be fine. Or just buy a new SRAM chain and keep it as a spare,
chains are consumables after all.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

Terry Morse said:

Doug said:

Haven't been able to ride lately. I lost one half of a SRAM quick
link while cleaning the bike.

You don't have a chain tool? Just pop out one of the links and run a
short chain for a few days. Avoid the big-big combination, and
you'll be fine. Or just buy a new SRAM chain and keep it as a spare,
chains are consumables after all.

That's what I'd do, too -- but aren't the new chains "un-re-poppable"
nowadays? (Don't they warn against replacing pins like in the good ol'
days?)

Bill "no clue how the Shimano pins work" S.

B i l l S o r n s o n said:

That's what I'd do, too -- but aren't the new chains "un-re-poppable"
nowadays? (Don't they warn against replacing pins like in the good ol'
days?)

The SRAM chains are re-poppable. I avoid the Shimano chains, with
their odd mushroom shaped pins.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

In article <YfRrd.9775$%R1.6447@trndny03>, "Doug" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Haven't been able to ride lately. I lost one half of a SRAM quick link while
cleaning the bike. LBS doesn't stock them! So I order a few from Nashbar,
along with some cables. Requested 2nd day shipping last week and still
haven't seen them!

KMC quick links work on SRAM chains. I've been told they work on Shimano also.
Surely the LBS stocks some kind of quick links. Like others here post, you
should keep a backup chain anyway.
Bill

Terry Morse said:

B i l l S o r n s o n said:

That's what I'd do, too -- but aren't the new chains "un-re-poppable"
nowadays? (Don't they warn against replacing pins like in the good ol'
days?)

The SRAM chains are re-poppable. I avoid the Shimano chains, with
their odd mushroom shaped pins.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

Yeah, and I have a chain link splitter that just plain won't work with
the older and wider chains so if a kid breaks a chain I can't help him
except for some determinatin/luck/ and a vice grips.

--
Bill (?) Baka

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Terry Morse said:

B i l l S o r n s o n said:

That's what I'd do, too -- but aren't the new chains "un-re-poppable"
nowadays? (Don't they warn against replacing pins like in the good ol'
days?)

The SRAM chains are re-poppable. I avoid the Shimano chains, with
their odd mushroom shaped pins.

_ I'm pretty sure SRAM will tell you that this is a bad idea.
There is a risk of damaging the chain such that it snaps under
stress.

http://tinyurl.com/5xx45

http://tinyurl.com/5vu93

_ Booker C. Bense

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Booker C. Bense said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Terry Morse said:

B i l l S o r n s o n said:

That's what I'd do, too -- but aren't the new chains "un-re-poppable"
nowadays? (Don't they warn against replacing pins like in the good ol'
days?)

The SRAM chains are re-poppable. I avoid the Shimano chains, with
their odd mushroom shaped pins.

_ I'm pretty sure SRAM will tell you that this is a bad idea.
There is a risk of damaging the chain such that it snaps under
stress.

I know sort of about this since I have a chain popper tool that won't fit
the old school chains that are too wide. Does me a whole hell of a lot of
good since I am fixing kids bikes most of the time. Even my 7 speed chain
won't fit. I just carry a whole chain in my back pack abd hope I don't
have to find out unless I am way uphill and can coast down to a store.
Bill Baka

Quoted message said:

http://tinyurl.com/5xx45

http://tinyurl.com/5vu93

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Bill (?) Baka

Ha! how foolish do I feel for not thinking of that! I did have to remove a
few links when I bought the chain, so they are removable. I think I know
what I'm doing tonight.

Live & Learn!

Foolishly,
Doug

"Terry Morse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Doug said:

Haven't been able to ride lately. I lost one half of a SRAM quick link
while
cleaning the bike.

You don't have a chain tool? Just pop out one of the links and run a
short chain for a few days. Avoid the big-big combination, and
you'll be fine. Or just buy a new SRAM chain and keep it as a spare,
chains are consumables after all.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

Bill Baka said:

Booker C. Bense said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Terry Morse said:

"B i l l S o r n s o n" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> That's what I'd do, too -- but aren't the new chains "un-re-poppable"
> nowadays? (Don't they warn against replacing pins like in the good ol'
> days?)

The SRAM chains are re-poppable. I avoid the Shimano chains, with
their odd mushroom shaped pins.

_ I'm pretty sure SRAM will tell you that this is a bad idea.
There is a risk of damaging the chain such that it snaps under
stress.

I know sort of about this since I have a chain popper tool that won't fit
the old school chains that are too wide. Does me a whole hell of a lot of
good since I am fixing kids bikes most of the time. Even my 7 speed chain
won't fit. I just carry a whole chain in my back pack abd hope I don't
have to find out unless I am way uphill and can coast down to a store.

I don't want to muscle in on Carl's beat, consumer reporting at Walmart, but
they sell a chain tool for under $2 that works as well as any of the cheapos.

Ron

Booker C. Bense said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Terry Morse said:

B i l l S o r n s o n said:

That's what I'd do, too -- but aren't the new chains "un-re-poppable"
nowadays? (Don't they warn against replacing pins like in the good ol'
days?)

The SRAM chains are re-poppable. I avoid the Shimano chains, with
their odd mushroom shaped pins.

_ I'm pretty sure SRAM will tell you that this is a bad idea.
There is a risk of damaging the chain such that it snaps under
stress.

http://tinyurl.com/5xx45

http://tinyurl.com/5vu93

Actually, if you go to the SRAM site and read the PowerLink FAQ
(http://tinyurl.com/5vu93) that your comment applies to certain chains
from certain years, only. The requirement that a PowerLink, only, be
used to connect a chain is only true for the PC-68 and PC-99 at this
time. The rest of the SRAM line can be reconnected just like in the
good old days.

- rick

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 13:43:57 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Bill Baka said:

Booker C. Bense said:

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In article <[email hidden]>,
Terry Morse <[email hidden]> wrote:
> "B i l l S o r n s o n" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> That's what I'd do, too -- but aren't the new chains "un-re-poppable"
>> nowadays? (Don't they warn against replacing pins like in the good
>> ol'
>> days?)
>
> The SRAM chains are re-poppable. I avoid the Shimano chains, with
> their odd mushroom shaped pins.

_ I'm pretty sure SRAM will tell you that this is a bad idea.
There is a risk of damaging the chain such that it snaps under
stress.

I know sort of about this since I have a chain popper tool that won't
fit
the old school chains that are too wide. Does me a whole hell of a lot
of
good since I am fixing kids bikes most of the time. Even my 7 speed
chain
won't fit. I just carry a whole chain in my back pack abd hope I don't
have to find out unless I am way uphill and can coast down to a store.

I don't want to muscle in on Carl's beat, consumer reporting at Walmart,
but
they sell a chain tool for under $2 that works as well as any of the
cheapos.

Ron

I think that is the tool I have. Kind of an odd gizmo with 3 slots,
apparently for different chains, and a turn screw to push things out
or in, but the old wide chains won't fit. It looks like you have to
have a newer skinny chain for it to be much use.
My 2 cents.

--
Bill (?) Baka

Bill Baka said:

I think that is the tool I have. Kind of an odd gizmo with

3 slots,

Quoted message said:

apparently for different chains, and a turn screw to push

things out

Quoted message said:

or in, but the old wide chains won't fit. It looks like

you have to

Quoted message said:

have a newer skinny chain for it to be much use.

That sounds doubtful, but I can see neither your tool nor
your chain.
These things can be a bit tricky to use until you get used
to them, and the instructions with the cheapies are
typically poorly translated.
There are very detailed instructions on the Park Tool site,
which might help.
http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQchnRe.shtml

--
Mike Kruger
Too many people spend money they haven't earned
to buy things they don’t want
to impress people they don’t like. -Will Rogers

Mike Kruger said:

Bill Baka said:

I think that is the tool I have. Kind of an odd gizmo with

3 slots,

Quoted message said:

apparently for different chains, and a turn screw to push

things out

Quoted message said:

or in, but the old wide chains won't fit. It looks like

you have to

Quoted message said:

have a newer skinny chain for it to be much use.

That sounds doubtful, but I can see neither your tool nor
your chain.
These things can be a bit tricky to use until you get used
to them, and the instructions with the cheapies are
typically poorly translated.
There are very detailed instructions on the Park Tool site,
which might help.
http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQchnRe.shtml

OK, my tool is a Wal-Mart special made in China like everything
else these days. I don't think a scan is in order though.
My scanner is under a pile of computer boards right now.
I am building a few 386/486 specials for the kids that have none.
What instructions?? It wasn't a Park, though.

--
Bill (?) Baka

Bill Baka said:

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 17:37:21 -0600, Mike Kruger

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bill Baka said:

I think that is the tool I have. Kind of an odd gizmo

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

3 slots,

Quoted message said:

apparently for different chains, and a turn screw to

push

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

things out

Quoted message said:

or in, but the old wide chains won't fit. It looks like

you have to

Quoted message said:

have a newer skinny chain for it to be much use.

That sounds doubtful, but I can see neither your tool nor
your chain.
These things can be a bit tricky to use until you get

used

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to them, and the instructions with the cheapies are
typically poorly translated.
There are very detailed instructions on the Park Tool

site,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

which might help.
http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQchnRe.shtml

OK, my tool is a Wal-Mart special made in China like

everything

Quoted message said:

else these days. I don't think a scan is in order though.
My scanner is under a pile of computer boards right now.
I am building a few 386/486 specials for the kids that

have none.

Quoted message said:

What instructions?? It wasn't a Park, though.

No, I wasn't asking to see the tool; no need to scan it.

Your tool probably looks a lot like one of the Park tool
models. You might take a look at their various models and
see if one of them looks like your cheapie.

I thought this information might help you figure out the
tool, which you note came with no instructions.

Mike Kruger said:

Bill Baka said:

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 17:37:21 -0600, Mike Kruger

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bill Baka wrote:
>
> I think that is the tool I have. Kind of an odd gizmo

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

3 slots,
> apparently for different chains, and a turn screw to

push

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

things out
> or in, but the old wide chains won't fit. It looks like
you have to
> have a newer skinny chain for it to be much use.

That sounds doubtful, but I can see neither your tool nor
your chain.
These things can be a bit tricky to use until you get

used

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to them, and the instructions with the cheapies are
typically poorly translated.
There are very detailed instructions on the Park Tool

site,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

which might help.
http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQchnRe.shtml

OK, my tool is a Wal-Mart special made in China like

everything

Quoted message said:

else these days. I don't think a scan is in order though.
My scanner is under a pile of computer boards right now.
I am building a few 386/486 specials for the kids that

have none.

Quoted message said:

What instructions?? It wasn't a Park, though.

No, I wasn't asking to see the tool; no need to scan it.

Your tool probably looks a lot like one of the Park tool
models. You might take a look at their various models and
see if one of them looks like your cheapie.

I thought this information might help you figure out the
tool, which you note came with no instructions.

I do have a really big hammer though, but it won't fit my back pack.

--
Bill (?) Baka