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  1. See

    http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/daily-news/article.php?id=4999

    "Note to the Highways Agency: bicycles are vehicles too
    In a press release announcing this winter's gritting programme and a hi-tech
    approach to where black-ice may develop, the Highways Agency mentions this to
    be of benefit to motorists only. What, so cyclists don't also use Britain's
    road network in the winter months?
    "At the first sign of snow and ice, gritters are mobilised to pre-salt the
    country's strategic road network, to keep traffic flowing on these roads which
    are essential to the country's economy," says the Highways Agency press
    release.

    All well and good. Cyclists are 'traffic' too and, in law, bicycles are
    classified as 'vehicles'.

    But then the release starts slipping and sliding on its own patches of
    auto-centric black-ice:

    "As the Highways Agency gears up for the worst of this winter's weather,
    motorists are also being asked to ensure they and their vehicle are ready if
    they get caught up in wintry conditions."

    Why only motorists?

    "The agency has enlisted the advice of a team of dedicated meteorologists, who
    can advise on the effects of the winter weather on the roads, allowing more
    informed decisions to be made. A high-tech approach has also been utilised,
    with thermal mapping on the road network, which can identify frost pockets,
    while gritters are fitted with global positioning systems."

    Excellent. Bicycles slip on black ice, too.

    "Drivers are warned to be careful in the potentially hazardous winter
    conditions."

    Again, why only motorists?

    Highways Agency area manager Roy Wood said:

    "We can have some of the most varied and most unpredictable winter weather
    conditions that can make driving especially hazardous."

    Wood then comes out with some advice for motorists: "when severe weather bites,
    the best advice is to stay off the road."

    Excellent! If such that'll-be-the-day advice was heeded there would be more
    room for cyclists...

    http://www.highways.gov.uk/news/articles/7219089.htm

    Want to remind the Highways Agency, part of the Department of Transport, that
    cyclists are 'traffic' too?

    Here's the email address to use:
    [email hidden] "

    Cheers, helen s

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  2. Quoted message said:


    Highways Agency area manager Roy Wood said:

    "I wish it could be Christmas every day"

    sorry I couldn't resist it.

  3. MSeries said:


    Quoted message said:


    Highways Agency area manager Roy Wood said:

    "I wish it could be Christmas every day"

    sorry I couldn't resist it.

    :-)

    However, I bet this is the one Roy Wood who doesn't wish it!

    Colin

  4. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

    http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/daily-news/article.php?id=4999
    Again, why only motorists?

    <inserts advocaat firmly into devil and tongue firmly into cheek>

    "Dear Cyclist,

    Cyclists are advised to avoid cycling in the winter. It's far too
    dangerous - if you slip on a patch of black ice, you might hold up one
    of our gritters. If your journey is absolutely essential, wear a helmet
    and push your bike all the way."

    R.

  5. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

    http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/daily-news/article.php?id=4999

    Perhaps they're assuming cyclists will be using the exceptionally
    well-gritted cycle paths? Perhaps not.

  6. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

    See

    http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/daily-news/article.php?id=4999


    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Again, why only motorists?

    Because they are the ones who are going to get stuck in the snow when it
    comes and the gritters get caught out. The cyclists can just cruise past
    (carefully)

    Colin

  7. On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:06:41 +0000, MSeries <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Highways Agency area manager Roy Wood said:

    "I wish it could be Christmas every day"

    sorry I couldn't resist it.

    I think you now owe the other Mr Wood 40p.

    --

    Call me "Bob"

    "More oneness, less categories,
    Open hearts, no strategies"

    Email address is spam trapped, to reply directly remove the beverage.

  8. Colin Blackburn said:

    Because they are the ones who are going to get stuck in the snow when
    it comes and the gritters get caught out. The cyclists can just
    cruise past (carefully)

    There are questions in corners of my mind that lurk
    Like "How do the road gritters get to work?"
    Answer me that and you could win a cruise
    Here's Judie Tzuke to take us up to the news

    HMHB - "When The Evening Sun Goes Down"

    --

    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
    World Domination?
    Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
    floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

  9. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

    See

    http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/daily-news/article.php?id=4999

    "Note to the Highways Agency: bicycles are vehicles too
    In a press release announcing this winter's gritting programme and a hi-tech
    approach to where black-ice may develop, the Highways Agency mentions this to
    be of benefit to motorists only. What, so cyclists don't also use Britain's
    road network in the winter months?
    "At the first sign of snow and ice, gritters are mobilised to pre-salt the
    country's strategic road network, to keep traffic flowing on these roads which
    are essential to the country's economy," says the Highways Agency press
    release.

    All well and good. Cyclists are 'traffic' too and, in law, bicycles are
    classified as 'vehicles'.

    But then the release starts slipping and sliding on its own patches of
    auto-centric black-ice:

    [etc ...]

    Probably for the very simple reason that the overwhelming majority of
    miles traveled on the roads is done in motor vehicles? Because like it
    or lump it we have the road system we have because of the requirements
    of motor transport, irrespective of how justifiable that might be?

    There are indeed plenty of reasons to be irritated by the
    marginalisation (sp???) of cyclists on the road network, but failure by
    the highways agency to mention them in a press release about winter
    gritting seems a little on the picky side.

    --
    Trevor Barton

  10. Dave Larrington said:
    Colin Blackburn said:

    Because they are the ones who are going to get stuck in the snow when
    it comes and the gritters get caught out. The cyclists can just
    cruise past (carefully)

    There are questions in corners of my mind that lurk
    Like "How do the road gritters get to work?"

    Normal gritting is usually very early in the morning or overnight when
    they have clear roads---it's not the snow that stops them but the
    traffic stopped by the snow. Also, they position them in advance
    depending on the time of day and weather forecast. Last year one problem
    Durham had was that snow was forecast for the hills and so the gritters
    and ploughs moved out of the city. The snow then fell in the city and
    the ploughs couldn't get back in once the traffic jammed.

    Colin

  11. Trevor Barton said:

    failure
    by the highways agency to mention them in a press release about winter
    gritting seems a little on the picky side.

    Hey! They don't mention motorcyclists either!

  12. Simonb said:
    Trevor Barton said:

    failure
    by the highways agency to mention them in a press release about winter
    gritting seems a little on the picky side.

    Hey! They don't mention motorcyclists either!

    TV weather forecasts do this too, wittering about driving conditions.
    It would be so easy to substitute road conditions, and I once told
    them so. No result, of course.

    Colin McKenzie

    --
    The great advantage of not trusting statistics is that
    it leaves you free to believe the damned lies instead!


  13. Quoted message said:

    Hey! They don't mention motorcyclists either!

    No one ever mentions motorcycles, ever. Unless it's to [censored] about the
    clowns doing 150mph on every straight longer than 300yds, or else to
    [censored] about kids on stolen bikes. Or trailriders...

    But never, ever will you see people mention motorcycles as though they
    were reasonable, valid methods of transport.

    bfn,

    Tony B

  14. Dave Larrington popped their head over the parapet saw what was going
    on and said

    Quoted message said:

    There are questions in corners of my mind that lurk
    Like "How do the road gritters get to work?"
    Answer me that and you could win a cruise
    Here's Judie Tzuke to take us up to the news

    Quoted message said:

    HMHB - "When The Evening Sun Goes Down"

    When I was in the TA, one of the chaps there was a council
    worker, during the winter he was a gritter driver . At the end
    of a lecture there was the usual "any questions" which of course
    solicited the replies "why is orange jam called marmalade ?"
    and "how does the guy who drives the snow plough get to his
    work?" to which this chap supplied the very boring answer
    "actually I get a lift".

    --
    yours S

    Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione

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