Cold weather question

"Neil Cherry" wrote...

Quoted message said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day. Basically, after I've
riden out in the cold (usually the 20's but also the 30's in the winds
of February) I come home and for the rest of the day I'm cold. Hot
showers don't work. Hot food and drink don't help. How can I stop that
from happening? I'm already wearing a wind vest, I have to starting at
round 45F. I already dress warmly and if I dress any warmer I sweat
and that makes things worse.

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Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry

Are you wearing a balaclava? Mine seems to keep a pocket of warm air around
my face, mouth and nose, preventing me from inhaling too much cold air.
Covering my neck/throat as well as head seems to keep the blood vessels in
that area from getting chilled and keeping my body core from getting chilled
like you describe.
HTH,
--
mark

mark said:

"Neil Cherry" wrote...

Quoted message said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day. Basically, after I've
riden out in the cold (usually the 20's but also the 30's in the winds
of February) I come home and for the rest of the day I'm cold. Hot
showers don't work. Hot food and drink don't help. How can I stop that
from happening? I'm already wearing a wind vest, I have to starting at
round 45F. I already dress warmly and if I dress any warmer I sweat
and that makes things worse.

--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry

Are you wearing a balaclava? Mine seems to keep a pocket of warm air around
my face, mouth and nose, preventing me from inhaling too much cold air.
Covering my neck/throat as well as head seems to keep the blood vessels in
that area from getting chilled and keeping my body core from getting chilled
like you describe.

I have a jacket which has a hood and zips up under my chin, so it
looks like a balaclava. Sorry I forgot that detail.

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Neil Cherry says...

Quoted message said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day. Basically, after I've
riden out in the cold (usually the 20's but also the 30's in the winds
of February) I come home and for the rest of the day I'm cold. Hot
showers don't work. Hot food and drink don't help. How can I stop that
from happening? I'm already wearing a wind vest, I have to starting at
round 45F. I already dress warmly and if I dress any warmer I sweat
and that makes things worse.

I get a little of that too, but it doesn't last all day. What I do is
take off all my riding clothes and put on sweats or something equally
warm. It takes an hour or two to get back to normal. Parts of my arms
and hands go numb after the ride too. But I really don't find it all too
bothersome. If you need to, crank up the heat and wrap up in a blanket.

Would a nice, long, hot bath help dispel that cold-core feeling? When
i ride during the really cold winter months--in the teens, say--I get
chilled in a way that feels different from just being cold, if that
makes sense, and it takes some greater effort to warm up again. --Roy
Zipris

Neil Cherry said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day. Basically, after I've
riden out in the cold (usually the 20's but also the 30's in the winds
of February) I come home and for the rest of the day I'm cold. Hot
showers don't work. Hot food and drink don't help. How can I stop that
from happening? I'm already wearing a wind vest, I have to starting at
round 45F. I already dress warmly and if I dress any warmer I sweat
and that makes things worse.

You didn't say how much you eat, so if you're a diet-conscious person,
don't forget that your body may need some extra fuel simply to heat up
after a long ride, and you'll have to adjust your caloric intake
accordingly.

Neil Cherry said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day.

Don't wait to get home to and drink hot drinks. Substitue a vacuum flask
of hot chocolate, tea, or coffee for your water bottle, and take
frequent swigs. Since you're asthmatic, coffee is probably the best,
since it helps control asthma. Do a google search for "bicycle coffee,"
and see the first result. The JMW-500 is your best bet at this juncture.

A hot tub and sauna would be good if you have a health club in your area
that has these.

Steve
http://www.bicyclecoffeesystems.com

Neil Cherry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day. Basically, after I've
riden out in the cold (usually the 20's but also the 30's in the winds
of February) I come home and for the rest of the day I'm cold. Hot
showers don't work. Hot food and drink don't help. How can I stop that
from happening? I'm already wearing a wind vest, I have to starting at
round 45F. I already dress warmly and if I dress any warmer I sweat
and that makes things worse.

What do you eat after a ride?

When I'm out backpacking in the winter I eat foods rich in fat and
protien. When I get to camp I'll open up the pepperoni, cheese and
triscuits. About 30 minutes after chowing down I'm stripping off
clothes.

I've only experienced the chill you describe once or twice. And then
hopping into a hot shower gets me back to room temperature. Having a
meal full of carbohydrates doesn't get the fire lit for me.

Hope this helps,
Andy

Super Slinky said:

Neil Cherry says...

Quoted message said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day.

Quoted message said:

I get a little of that too, but it doesn't last all day. What I do is
take off all my riding clothes and put on sweats or something equally
warm. It takes an hour or two to get back to normal. Parts of my arms
and hands go numb after the ride too. But I really don't find it all too
bothersome. If you need to, crank up the heat and wrap up in a blanket.

I usually come home and wrap myself in a couple of blankets. It takes
all day to get rid of the cold feeling. My hands and feet usually warm
up in a few minutes after I get home but they never go numb.

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Roy Zipris said:

Would a nice, long, hot bath help dispel that cold-core feeling? When
i ride during the really cold winter months--in the teens, say--I get
chilled in a way that feels different from just being cold, if that
makes sense, and it takes some greater effort to warm up again.

Make perfect sense to me, it's not being cold as that more of a hand
and feet kind of thing. This is more of my stomach, my lungs, my
backbone kind of a feeling. It just takes me all day to regain the
warmth.

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Collin said:

Neil Cherry said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day.

Quoted message said:

You didn't say how much you eat, so if you're a diet-conscious person,
don't forget that your body may need some extra fuel simply to heat up
after a long ride, and you'll have to adjust your caloric intake
accordingly.

I'm not realy sure what I eat, usually it's whatever is there. I worry
a bit about diet. I tend to carry about 20lbs just around the
middle. I call it the fat, skinny, Irishman look.

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Steven M. Scharf said:

Neil Cherry said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day.

Don't wait to get home to and drink hot drinks. Substitue a vacuum flask
of hot chocolate, tea, or coffee for your water bottle, and take
frequent swigs. Since you're asthmatic, coffee is probably the best,
since it helps control asthma. Do a google search for "bicycle coffee,"
and see the first result. The JMW-500 is your best bet at this juncture.

I hate coffee, I'm a tea fiend. But I'll look into the flask of tea or
chocolate. I alway carry a camelback, during the winter I fill it with
warm water and Gatorade (%50 solution).

--
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amh said:

Neil Cherry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

OK, I donn't mind riding in cold weather and I have a system for what
clothing I need. 2 things cause me problems which limit the amount I
can ride. The first is that I am asthmatic so I am limited to about
20F (-6C) because cold air can be very bad for asthmatics. The second
problem is a bigger problem for me and that is the cold feeling I get
in the core of my body for the rest of the day.

Quoted message said:

What do you eat after a ride?

Someone else asked me this, not really sure.

Quoted message said:

When I'm out backpacking in the winter I eat foods rich in fat and
protien. When I get to camp I'll open up the pepperoni, cheese and
triscuits. About 30 minutes after chowing down I'm stripping off
clothes.

I may start eating chilli with cheddar. :-) Good spicey food, protein,
fat, carbs, mmmm.

Quoted message said:

I've only experienced the chill you describe once or twice. And then
hopping into a hot shower gets me back to room temperature. Having a
meal full of carbohydrates doesn't get the fire lit for me.

Even a hot shower doesn't help me. Mys skin is warm but my insides
stay cold. What I like to do is (inside the house) lay out in a really
sunny spot, wrap myself in blankets and eat hot food (soups) but it
tends to be what ever hot food is around. I usually have Chunky
soups.

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Neil Cherry said:

I hate coffee, I'm a tea fiend. But I'll look into the flask of tea or
chocolate. I alway carry a camelback, during the winter I fill it with
warm water and Gatorade (%50 solution).

Well as long as it isn't so-called herbal tea. Japanese Green Tea is
fine, as are some of the better Chinese teas. However while these teas
share the anti-oxidant benefits of coffee, they don't have as much
caffeine as coffee, so the benefits to an asthmatic are less.

See: http://www.cosic.org/coffee-and-health/asthma

I think that you may have to take up coffee drinking if you want to
continue to ride in the winter. No choice.

Steve
http://bicyclecoffeesystems.com

Steven M. Scharf said:

Neil Cherry said:

I hate coffee, I'm a tea fiend. But I'll look into the flask of tea or
chocolate. I alway carry a camelback, during the winter I fill it with
warm water and Gatorade (%50 solution).

Well as long as it isn't so-called herbal tea. Japanese Green Tea is
fine, as are some of the better Chinese teas. However while these teas
share the anti-oxidant benefits of coffee, they don't have as much
caffeine as coffee, so the benefits to an asthmatic are less.

Herbal tea, yuck! I like a good strong cup of tea. English & Irish
Breakfast are my favorites. I let them steep for about 35 -45 minutes
before I drink them.

Quoted message said:

I think that you may have to take up coffee drinking if you want to
continue to ride in the winter. No choice.

I can get my caffeine from other places also. It tends to be Coke but
in a case of extreme fatigue I've been known to drink Jolt (much to
the dislike of the other riders :-). Jolt is not something you want to
give a hyper person.

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Neil Cherry said:

Roy Zipris said:

Would a nice, long, hot bath help dispel that cold-core feeling? When
i ride during the really cold winter months--in the teens, say--I get
chilled in a way that feels different from just being cold, if that
makes sense, and it takes some greater effort to warm up again.

Make perfect sense to me, it's not being cold as that more of a hand
and feet kind of thing. This is more of my stomach, my lungs, my
backbone kind of a feeling. It just takes me all day to regain the
warmth.

_ This is backcountry skier folklore, but it seems to work.
Eat something with a lot fat in it. I have no idea if this really
makes sense or not, but the "theory" is your body is holding
back it's fat reserves until it "sees" new fat coming down the
supply chain. I.e. you've burned all the available carbs and the
body doesn't break into the emergency fat reserves until they
can be replaced.

_ A shot of brandy also works pretty well.... %-).

_ Booker C. Bense

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